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Bootsykk

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1.7 – If I had a romance in Origins, does it carry over into Awakening? (Back to top)
Romances do not carry forward in Awakening, because you are away from your previous life fighting a new threat.



... Okay, so I'm pretty sure that this glaringly obvious plot hole has to have been answered already. But what does this mean for the PCs who married Alistair and became his queen? If relationships don't carry over... well, what happened??

Don't tell me this decision carries over the same way the ultimate sacrifice did. That would be a little more than really weird.

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Aeto Alessos

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Alistair runs off with Sandal.

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Kryyptehk

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Juneya wrote...

1.7 – If I had a romance in Origins, does it carry over into Awakening? (Back to top)
Romances do not carry forward in Awakening, because you are away from your previous life fighting a new threat.



... Okay, so I'm pretty sure that this glaringly obvious plot hole has to have been answered already. But what does this mean for the PCs who married Alistair and became his queen? If relationships don't carry over... well, what happened??

Don't tell me this decision carries over the same way the ultimate sacrifice did. That would be a little more than really weird.


Use search, this has been answered before. Romances are referenced and Alistair acts like you two are together, but you can't break up with him or advance in your relationship. Because he isn't with you for most of the game.

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Sadly Aeto speaks the truth, Sandal is a homewrecker.

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It's like how the romance in ME1 doesn't carry forward in ME2. It's recognized, but nothing more than that.

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Yes, you're still queen.

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Kryyptehk wrote...

Juneya wrote...

1.7 – If I had a romance in Origins, does it carry over into Awakening? (Back to top)
Romances do not carry forward in Awakening, because you are away from your previous life fighting a new threat.



... Okay, so I'm pretty sure that this glaringly obvious plot hole has to have been answered already. But what does this mean for the PCs who married Alistair and became his queen? If relationships don't carry over... well, what happened??

Don't tell me this decision carries over the same way the ultimate sacrifice did. That would be a little more than really weird.


Use search, this has been answered before. Romances are referenced and Alistair acts like you two are together, but you can't break up with him or advance in your relationship. Because he isn't with you for most of the game.

Thanks. I was really kind of stunned at first when i read that, and I couldn't seem to find an answer via google or these forums.  xD

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Are you really ever the queen? The most I could get for my male human was 'consort,' which I read as 'picturesque Boy Toy Companion, more or less legally married, but without power.' Kind of like Prince Phillip. Except prettier.

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Go sandal. "Enchanments,"

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There was a post in a previous thread that made allot of sense for me.



In the Epilogue it says that the actual wedding between you and Alistair was 6 months after the events of Origins. But Awakening should start rigth after origins so you shoudn't be an actueel queen yet in Awakening because you aren't married to Alistair.



Can't say for sure that this is 100% true, but it would make sense if they would do this.



And just because the romances do not carry over, it doesn't mean they are ended.

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I doubt they'd do this because it would only affect those of Human Noble origin, but it would be fun if Awakening began with PC and Alistair/Anora's wedding. 'twould be a slightly less depressing beginning that oft found in games - sort of like how both Godfather films begin with a celebration.

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Im wondering if il get to Visit Anora in the tower i had her Locked away in :D

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Ceridraen wrote...

Are you really ever the queen? The most I could get for my male human was 'consort,' which I read as 'picturesque Boy Toy Companion, more or less legally married, but without power.' Kind of like Prince Phillip. Except prettier.


Yes, you are considered a Queen when you are married to a reigning King. You are not Queen-Regent, you are a Queen-Consort or the less formal term Princess-Consort.

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Krocodyle wrote...

Im wondering if il get to Visit Anora in the tower i had her Locked away in :D


I'm hoping I can execute Anora in Awakening.

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Bratt1204 wrote...

Krocodyle wrote...

Im wondering if il get to Visit Anora in the tower i had her Locked away in :D


I'm hoping I can execute Anora in Awakening.


Yeah, she is an evil little female dog, isn't she? Sending her into exile and taking her family lands felt really good.

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Id prefer to torment her a little Feed her Logains Body and Stuff :D .... im sick

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it will be the same way they did with mass effect2 if you romanced kaidan or ash you get to talk about it for like a minute and half and probably dont see them again for the rest of the game.

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Sandal's a homewrecker? Well.. He does have a taste for tainted things.(~coughthedarkspawnroomcough~) xD



I still find it odd that you become "Princess consort", when Anora was able to become "Queen". And both Anora and Female Cousland are of the same social standing technically speaking. They're both daughters of Teryns.

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Yazenia wrote...

it will be the same way they did with mass effect2 if you romanced kaidan or ash you get to talk about it for like a minute and half and probably dont see them again for the rest of the game.


Yazenia - Off topic: I want your hair. Do you think that MOD will work with a Mac?

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It might have to do with Anora already being Queen. Like in some monarchies, if a king dies, his son becomes king, but his mother retains the title of Queen. When the son marries, his wife is only the Princess-Consort. The title can never be stripped from the Queen and there can only be one Queen. In other monarchies, the mother becomes the Queen Dowager, and the wife becomes the Queen. It would depend what sort of monarchy Ferelden has in that regard. I don't see why she wasn't stripped of her title. I was displeased with that, though not enough to have Zevran pay her a visit.



My main beef was that the epilogue stated that Anora was uncomfortable with me and Alistair being all in love. Don't know how uncomfortable she could be when she's locked inside Fort Drakon. :/ Also, my PC would probably have Anora returned to Gwaren to be the Teyrna. I think she'd be rather grateful for that, and I get a capable ruled and administator for the other Teyrn of the country. Plus, she would be too far away to meddle in polotics too much.

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oh

Bratt1204 wrote...

Yazenia wrote...

it will be the same way they did with mass effect2 if you romanced kaidan or ash you get to talk about it for like a minute and half and probably dont see them again for the rest of the game.


Yazenia - Off topic: I want your hair. Do you think that MOD will work with a Mac?


oh i dont know if it would work for mac.  it is also my favorite hairstyle thanks god for the talented modders that keep making the game better.
this is my favorite character.       she looks like Anna Kournikova

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Krocodyle wrote...

Id prefer to torment her a little Feed her Logains Body and Stuff :D .... im sick

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Bratt1204 wrote...

Ceridraen wrote...

Are you really ever the queen? The most I could get for my male human was 'consort,' which I read as 'picturesque Boy Toy Companion, more or less legally married, but without power.' Kind of like Prince Phillip. Except prettier.


Yes, you are considered a Queen when you are married to a reigning King. You are not Queen-Regent, you are a Queen-Consort or the less formal term Princess-Consort.


Indeed, if neither a married king or queen is considered a 'king-consort' or 'queen-consort' then both are co-equals in power, like William and Mary of England or Ferdinand and Isabella of Spain.  Basically, in Dragon Age, no matter who the ruler of Ferelden is, it isn't you, regardless of your relationship to the ruler.  A good example would be Princess Diana, who went back to being Diana Spencer after her marriage to Prince Charles dissolved.

Another way of looking at it is, would you still be King, Queen, Princess, or Prince regardless of who you were married to or married at all? (exempting the Edward VIII "marrying a commoner" debacle and similar situations).  If you retain your title regardless of spouse, you are not a consort.  Divorcing Alastair or Anora would definitely strip you of your title, ergo...consort.

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Kryyptehk wrote...

Use search, this has been answered before. Romances are referenced and Alistair acts like you two are together, but you can't break up with him or advance in your relationship. Because he isn't with you for most of the game.


Not meaning at all to be snarky about this question, but unless I fail at finding an advanced search option, I can't do anything but search thread titles and it's making it hard to find a direct source.  Do you have a link to a thread where this is confirmed?   Because I've been looking for days to find out how they're handling this, and I've seen way too many discussions where the prevailing argument was whether they were going to retcon you off the throne or allow you to still technically be queen (or queen-consort) with Alistair as your significant other.

To be clear, I'm totally aware of the fact that there are no romance options, and I have no problems with that.  I'm just trying to find confirmation that this particular romance and title will be acknowledged, considering its relevance to the main plot.

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Hobo in a Box wrote...

There was a post in a previous thread that made allot of sense for me.

In the Epilogue it says that the actual wedding between you and Alistair was 6 months after the events of Origins. But Awakening should start rigth after origins so you shoudn't be an actueel queen yet in Awakening because you aren't married to Alistair.

Can't say for sure that this is 100% true, but it would make sense if they would do this.

And just because the romances do not carry over, it doesn't mean they are ended.


Awakening takes place after 7 months I believe. Where is the source that says it starts right after?