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[Svalebech]

I´m at the Werewolf quest, and there are 4-5 encounters with these strong basterds.

I fiind them very hard to slay, alone or accompanied by minions. Best way is having lots of health potions, but they are a bit scarce.

My party consists of Alistair, Leliana and Morrigan - I myself am a warrior. Tried Dog instead of Laliana, but that didn´t ease the fights.

What is recommended?

[soteria]

Kill the little skeletons first, and only put one person in melee range. If you have two in melee Revenants will Double Strike, hitting everyone nearby for pretty high damage. It's easiest with two or more mages, just like most everything else.

[Mr_Raider]

Come back at a higher level. Seriously, those are tough fights. The other revenant fights are easy because they are alone, but these are tough because the minions, I would suggest level 14-15 at least.



If you are determined to do it, send in a tank close to the revenant, forcefield him/her, and then try to quickly aoe the rest. Handle the mages and archers first.



Otherwise, you need crowd control, to break up the fight in manageable bits. waking nighmare, earthquake or blizzard work wonders.

[Ken555]

But don't use witers grasp. they also have a good chance to resist cone of cold.

[Ken555]

I mean winters grasp.

[dwanedibbley]

If u dont mind abusing AI - nuke him by mage and when ravenant gets to him just buble in force shield so u get invulnerable tank.

[Ralnith]

At low lvl: Get aggro with your mage and than kite him around something while the rest of the party hits him with whatever they have.

At high lvl: Send 3/4 well equipped melee fighters at him and watch the revenant die before any of your party members get their hp below 50%.

Both worked for me.



As a general rule: having lots of potions never hurts (I actually started to call revenants "pot-holes" during my first playthrough...). Misdirection Hex and Death Hex are good, if he doesn't resist. And always take out the skeletons first. If you can't Force Field the revenant during that phase, you probably will need some potions for your tank.

[x-president]

Strong backstabbing rogues can do wonders against Revenants.  They are weak to high armor pentration attacks like from good shapeshifters.

You can go toe to toe wihtout tanking or using spells.  Just unload and heal when you have to.  I'd recommend being higher then lvl 10.


In the Skeleton fights, kill them first as fast as possible then unload on the Revanat.  If you are running more mages or archers just stay spread out and it goes fairly easy.


Sometimes cleanse or a neutralizing spell can get rid of the blue aura.  That can be very helpful.

[sylvanaerie]

Try to use Stuns too, anything that stuns but esp Lyrium enchants in your weapons. Put your sword and board on the revenant, keep him alive while your party takes out the minions. Once minions are done focus on the revenant.

[JosieJ]

Misdirection Hex basically neuters Revenants. In my current playthrough, that's about all I do to the Revenant directly. Otherwise, I focus on buffing Alistair (my tank) and keeping him alive, and sending my other companions (Zevran and Leliana) after the minions. As long as Alistair keeps Threaten up, the Revenant will stay focused on him.

[SarEnyaDor]

I like to freeze them with cone of cold (doesn't do any damage though because of the resist cold, only freezes them in place) and then hack at them alot - I admit it may not be the best thought-out strategy, but it hasn't yet failed!

[Zaviera]

Since you're a warrior I can't be of much help, but I would use Leliana and position her behind the Revenant because it causes the best damage since she is backstabbing. Then just position your other members so that they are distracting him so that he doesn't turn around and face your rouge, thus no longer backstabbing.



BTW, are your party members on auto heal if their health gets too low?

[DJ0000]

Tank keeping aggro, mage healing and debuffing and very far away(he may chase them, if this happens move them before they die), damage dealer beating the crap out of him while the tank holds aggro. The last party memeber can be another damager but I prefer another mage to freeze them whenever possible.

Just make sure you debuff him first so you can work on the minions first, misdirection hex is perfect and take any mages out asap. The rest are pretty simple, use fireball(or something similar) on archers and melee the warriors.

I fought one the other day with my dw warrior and found that with 40 dex(36 natural) he could only hit me about one in every 5 attempts without hexes so as long as he can't use weakness, or whatever it is revanents usually use on you, this may prove usefull.

I do wonder how revenants always seem to hit me with weakness yet mana clash does nothing to them.

Also, don't listen to the people who say you should backstab it, Revenants use shield defence and therefore can't be backstabbed.

Modifié par DJ0000, 24 février 2010 - 04:43 .

[mousestalker]

DJ0000 wrote...
I do wonder how revenants always seem to hit me with weakness yet mana clash does nothing to them.

They don't use magic to weaken your character. Revenants are former members of boy bands who went wrong. When your fem-PC sees her former idol in armor with a big sword, her knees get weak. When your male-PC sees the pop star's roguish eyes, he doubts his sexual orientation and is confused for a while. No magic needed.

[AlgolagniaVolcae]

They are weak to fire, and as someone suggested above Misdirection Hex works good and so does Vulnerability Hex to make them even weaker to fire based attacks from weapons(staves also), arrows, and bolts.



Torch of Embers

Wolf-Killer / Fire Arrows

Imperium Crossbow(since all undead are also demons) / Explosive/Fire Bolts

Master or Grandmaster Flame Runes

Ember Ring

Pocketed Searing Gloves



All of those items you should already have, or easily have access to without proceeding too far into other areas of the game.

[kombra]

The Revenants in the Brecilian Forrest have a minimum level of 14 (or your character level if it's higher), their minions a level between 12 and 14.

[JosieJ]

Zaviera wrote...

Since you're a warrior I can't be of much help, but I would use Leliana and position her behind the Revenant because it causes the best damage since she is backstabbing. Then just position your other members so that they are distracting him so that he doesn't turn around and face your rouge, thus no longer backstabbing.

If Leliana's an archer, it doesn't matter where you position her: archers cannot backstab.

[kombra]

JosieJ wrote...
If Leliana's an archer, it doesn't matter where you position her: archers cannot backstab.

But archers get the attack bonus for flanking. Leliana will likely have a low attack rating, the Revenant has a high defense rating.

[JosieJ]

True, but that's not what s/he said.

[DJ0000]

mousestalker wrote...

DJ0000 wrote...
I do wonder how revenants always seem to hit me with weakness yet mana clash does nothing to them.

They don't use magic to weaken your character. Revenants are former members of boy bands who went wrong. When your fem-PC sees her former idol in armor with a big sword, her knees get weak. When your male-PC sees the pop star's roguish eyes, he doubts his sexual orientation and is confused for a while. No magic needed.

lol

[soteria]

I don't think you actually get any flanking bonus against revenants, archer or not. The same talent that makes them immune to backstabs also should be making them immune to flank attacks.

[PatT2]

They do use weakness against you. I just finished battling one, and I had weakness in the red box showing that it had been used. It was my team, against it. Nothing else. So it HAD to be the one that cast weakness. When it does its "pull" routine, that's magic too. It always puts it's sword down right before casting. But..I was unable to use mana clash on him. I tried mana drain but couldn't tell if it did anything. They're weak to poisoned weapons.



They're immune to magic often. You have to hit them when they put the sword in the ground.

[krylo]

Misdirection Hex + Death Hex. Have forcefield/CoC on standby if your hexes wear off and it's not dead/close enough to finish without getting slaughtered.

All you need, really. Everything past that is superfluous. Misdirection Hex means he can't hurt you, Death Hex means his high defense is worthless.

Modifié par krylo, 25 février 2010 - 08:31 .

[Disastersaurus]

I think I handled it in a cruder manner than you guys, maybe.



Precise striking, momentum, flurry and dual-weapon sweep, with Wynne doing way more healing than is good for her old arse!

[kombra]

soteria wrote...
I don't think you actually get any flanking bonus against revenants, archer or not. The same talent that makes them immune to backstabs also should be making them immune to flank attacks.

According to my crude testing, you do get the flanking bonus (44% hit rate non-flanking, 59% with flanking; rogue archer with attack 80 against a level 16 Revenant).