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[ImperialOperative]

AngryFrozenWater wrote...
No doubt about it. They have done so with the ME1 patch, Pinnacle Station, the DA:O patch and Return to Ostagar. And they will keep on doing it until we all tell them that we have enough of their attitude.

Speak for yourself, I find it a good show to watch the entitled ones stomp their feet and pout around the forums.

Modifié par ImperialOperative, 24 février 2010 - 05:44 .

[Magnabyte]

on the other hand it does keep the forum community active

[AlbertoAquilani]

I just need some DLC.... I'm playing Fallout 3 the 2nd time.. as a good guy, so I'm enjoying it but the game ultimately, is frustrating at times (in fact I just got took down by a Sentry Bot this instance).

[Arhka]

Ah yes, "DLC." Downloadable content meant to provide extra enjoyment to a game. We have dismissed these claims.



But, seriously, DLC would be nice.

[AngryFrozenWater]

BanditGR wrote...

AngryFrozenWater wrote...
The real problem is the apathic attitude of BioWare concerning providing us with information about a product that we have paid for in the first place. It's not that we are getting something for free. It's not a bone thrown to us, although BioWare certainly wants to convince us that it is.

At the risk of being flamed for arguing semantics, there is no mention of the Hammerhead or Kasumi or the Archdemon from hell for that matter on the game box, manual or extras (at least on non CE versions).  Yes, they did say that those things would be released roughly at that time, but there are more complicated factors involved in the release of DLC.

They are under no obligation whatsoever to provide you with information about extra content, because you can twist it anyway you want to, but the truth of the matter is, those things are indeed considered to be extra content, just as Shale is considered extra content for DAO (despite the fact that the character used to be part of the normal game at one point but was "cut" due to time constraints and whatnot), since they were never delivered with the game itself.

Don't get me wrong. I'm not defending BioWare's PR here in any way, shape or form, I'm simply stating the obvious, considering previous (unfortunately not that good) experience. It would be nice if they said something, but personally I'm not holding my breath. Expect less and who knows, you may (or may not) receive more.

I am sorry, but you are wrong about that. And there are two reasons for it.

The first one is the information from BioWare self about the release of the Cerberus Network. This information was available at the 19th of January 2010. And that information told us exactly what to expect: Zaeed, the Hammerhead and the Cerberus armor.

Source: Mass Effect 2 Download Content Plans Unveiled.

The second piece of information is EA's so called "Project 10 dollar". The idea is that newly bought EA software will get at least 10 dollar worth of downloadable content and that people who buy second hand software have to pay for it. Examples provided are ME2 and DA:O.

Source: EA's "Project Ten Dollar" explained.

Modifié par AngryFrozenWater, 24 février 2010 - 06:07 .

[Jagrevi]

Magnabyte wrote...

Just a thought, twitter said we would be getting new DLC in about 2 weeks on the 3rd of the month...I forget when we got the new armor and shot gun pack, but my suspition is that this is the pack they where refering to.

Thing being - an mod - who is presumably a Bioware Employee - came on these forums and said they could CONFIRM that it wasn't.

[IssacG0ndel]

AngryFrozenWater wrote...


I am sorry, but you are wrong about that. And there are two reasons for it.

The first one is the information from BioWare self about the release of the Cerberus Network. This information was available at the 19th of January 2010. And that information told us exactly what to expect: Zaeed, the Hammerhead and the Cerberus armor.

Source: Mass Effect 2 Download Content Plans Unveiled.

The second piece of information is EA's so called "Project 10 dollar". The idea is that newly bought EA software will get at least 10 dollar worth of downloadable content and that people who buy second hand software have to pay for it. Examples provided are ME2 and DA:O.

Source: EA's "Project Ten Dollar" explained.

So ... angry fanboys if it doesn't hit today = no trust in bioware for this DLC to be there when they promise = no point in buying new = Project Ten Dollar fails = EA dies? more or less?

[IONDRIVE]

What was the fiasco with the Return to Ostagar DLC ?

[IssacG0ndel]

Had a bug or two when they launched it, and they had to pull it an relaunch later.

[GreenSoda]

AngryFrozenWater wrote...

I am sorry, but you are wrong about that. And there are two reasons for it.

The first one is the information from BioWare self about the release of the Cerberus Network. This information was available at the 19th of January 2010. And that information told us exactly what to expect: Zaeed, the Hammerhead and the Cerberus armor.

Source: Mass Effect 2 Download Content Plans Unveiled.

...even though it says right in that artical that the Hammerhead DLC is set to be released "after launch".  A timeframe BW hasn't exceeded, yet.

The second piece of information is EA's so called "Project 10 dollar". The idea is that newly bought EA software will get at least 10 dollar worth of downloadable content and that people who buy second hand software have to pay for it. Examples provided are ME2 and DA:O.

Source: EA's "Project Ten Dollar" explained.

That DLC worth at least 10$ is Shale for DA and Zaeed for ME2. BW already delivered on both counts.

That being said, it would be great if the Hammerhead DLC would

a) be released this week, and
 be a meaningful addition to the game 

Modifié par GreenSoda, 24 février 2010 - 07:16 .

[FiOth]

I can see why they are taking their time, even if I don't like it. What I really hate though is the lack of actual updates, both is terms of patching/ fixing and DLC. Would have been much better if we could at least get some sort of response from the devs.



Some say they have stepped away from the forum because they get spammed questions. Seriously though, they should stick a little bit closer to the players who love their games, its the least they can do considering the fan base's adoration for their work.

[Magnabyte]

In fairness they set up a specific forum to give us announcments on new stuff, and I'd rather have a dev teams working tirelessly on the game rather than answering every question thats placed on the fourms, cos we out number them question to answer ratio

[DaftPaycheck]

Considering DLC is almost always released on Tuesday just like new games here in the states, I highly doubt there would be any new content released on Wednesday, Friday, or any other of the six non Tuesday days of the week. That's a pretty simple concept to understand.



Furthermore, BW announced the Cerb. Armor and Eviscerator a few days ahead of its release, meaning the same would most likely occur with their next content, be that Kasumi, Hammerhead, or anything else they've developed. Since we've yet to hear anything, you can bet it won't be released in the next few days.



As for BW not giving us enough info, or misleading us...what do you want them to say? "Yes, we're working on it and it'll be out as soon as it's ready."? It's quite obvious that they're taking their time to work on the content instead of pushing it out into the market without proper testing just to meet some phantom deadline a few game owners have established. Bioware obviously wants to improve on their image when it comes to post launch content. They most likely want to rectify and avoid the same mistakes that plagued RTO's release, and I don't blame them for that considering how much heat they took from forum goers over that debacle.



Bioware already has one of the most direct developer to gamer relationships compared to many other development companies, that much is evidenced by just how much they listened to and followed the constructive feedback put forth on these boards between ME1 and ME2, so saying they are not reaching out to their community(us) enough is just absurd and borderline whining.



I completely understand the desire for more DLC, I'd probably start foaming at the mouth for new info on the Hammerhead, but quite frankly, I'm also able to temper my excitement and desire by knowing that demanding Bioware release the DLC now or that they tell us exactly what's going on will only serve to hamper their development process or more likely, do nothing at all.

[Mavkiel]

Magnabyte wrote...

In fairness they set up a specific forum to give us announcments on new stuff, and I'd rather have a dev teams working tirelessly on the game rather than answering every question thats placed on the fourms, cos we out number them question to answer ratio

Oh yes, but I'd also love an estimated release date for the dlcs. They can even capatlize and underline the word ESTIMATED . As it stands we are being treated like mushrooms. That being said I have liked the dlcs that have been released. I really like ziaad. Neat stories, and a unique outlook when you take him on missions.

[Magnabyte]

It could simply be that they don't want to set up an estimate, simply because people read "connfirmed" when it says estimate. It could also be they are working on several projects and do not infact have a set release date for any DLC, after all, if I was heading the DLC team, I wouldn't impose a deadline saying "do this by then" otherwise things get rushed, I would have a big old sign saying "Do things right first time, and the double check it!"

Modifié par Magnabyte, 24 février 2010 - 07:37 .

[Commander Darmok]

Guys, after ME1's DLC, they're already making leaps and bounds in quality and service. It's not like they can stop sucking at DLC overnight. I'm not expecting anything, and therefore, am pleasantly amused by some of the offerings.



Deep down, in my heart of hearts though, I'm secretly hoping for a DA-size expansion to get announced in a few months.

[BanditGR]

IONDRIVE wrote...

What was the fiasco with the Return to Ostagar DLC ?

As far as I can remember : RtO was initially announced to be released within the Xmas holiday season. Bioware uploaded a PC version of the DLC on their servers early on, which basically anyone could download (if they knew the link, which wasn't really hard to guess/discover). Later on, someone on some forums that will not be named, found a way to authorize the DLC offline, effectively bypassing Bioware's servers. Bioware set a date for the DLC at some point around Christmas, but the DLC was delayed (no other date was provided) due to a 'quality issue' that was never revealed. In the first week of 2010 or so, the DLC appeared as a download exclusively for 360 owners, apparently ahead of schedule and presumably without Bioware's consent/knowledge. That version of the DLC introduced a bug, effectively locking down character specializations. It was pulled shorty afterwards but not until enough people already had acquired it (along with the bug).

When the final PC version was out, it was observed that there was no obvious difference between it and the initially "leaked" version (it even had the exact same glitches, eg there was a specific spot where you could go off the map). What actually transpired during that period, is anyone's guess really. The point is, the whole situation was poorly handled. There were obvious miscommunication issues and people that had already purchased the DLC via Bioware's point system (during the 360 'rushed' release) were left in the dark, for a significant amount of time, wondering whether they had purchased an actual product or simply..thin air. Since I was one of those people, the whole incident personally made me way more skeptical towards any form of future DLC (especially considering the fact that we are talking about 1h worth of content, give or take). I'll be very glad, if ME2 DLC turns out to be an entirely different experience (fingers crossed).

[Kaorunandrak]

RTO was basicly people acting like they were 6 year olds who fell down and skinned their knees when they saw the ice cream man who drove right past them because his freezer shorted out and his ice cream melted.



He had nothing to sell them so he just drove home said he'd be back later, so the 6 year olds all angry and vengeful went home grabbed a bunch of sharp objects and gathered enmass infront of his house and started attacking anything that moved. they demanded to know why they couldnt bob the nob of a Frozone shaft special pop. To calm the 6 year olds the ice cream man told them the Freezer broke we have a new one its on the way.



Some were pacified and went to the supermarket to buy a different ice cream, others still furious because they wanted, no needed, no DESERVED that phalic Frozone pop and demanded a time frame as to when the new freezer would arive and how long it would take to be installed. The ice cream man gave them a date and largely the 6 year olds scattered save for a few who were deaf and blind and had turrets that spouted random amounts of flatulance from their mouths as they kept asking when the freezer would arive.



The the day the freezer would arive came and pressured byt the 6 year olds the ice cream man quickly installed the freezer but tyhere was a leak of some sort that poisoned the genital Frozone pops and some 6 year olds got very sick and were unable to play hop scotch or jump rope. So once again the ice cream man had to send for a new freezer and take back the frozone pops that had not yet been disturbingly devoured. This did not bode well with the 6 year olds let me tell you .....



So after another long wait the new freezer came and the 6 year olds finnaly got their grubby hands on the Frozone shafts and then another complaint was made one we have all heard before the freezer debacle it seems that Frozone just wasn't big enough to justify the 1.50 price tag it should have been a closer remblence to the original for the price and many perfered a penny per inch aprouch resulting in a much larger Frozone man pop.



yeah it happened something like that lol

[jamskinner]

diskoh wrote...

It did not say 2 weeks. It said a couple weeks. Don't be so literal or you'll be disappointed every time.

So how long is a couple weeks? two, three, four.  We are sitting a 3+ right now.

Modifié par jamskinner, 24 février 2010 - 08:06 .

[jamskinner]

basically repeat of above so deleted

Modifié par jamskinner, 24 février 2010 - 08:12 .

[Phaedra Sanguine]

@Kaorunandrak That sounds about right! lol

[Tilarta]

I've been anticipating the DLC for since the announcements a while back.

And yes, it is going on 3-4 weeks when they said 2 or a couple.

Personally, after that Stargate Worlds debacle (where a concrete date for release was never set and now it looks like the game is going to be cancelled), I lost whatever patience I had for companies that don't specify release dates for anything.

I'd be happy to wait patiently if Bioware said "yes, we're going to release the Hammerhead and Kasumi DLC on xx/yy/zzzz".

But the lack of a specific date is annoying, to say the least.

And it's actually holding me back from finishing my second playthrough, because I'm up to the point just before the endgame campaign and I don't want to start it until I have both Kasumi and the Hammerhead. This is because I'm uncertain if activities completed after endgame register for ME3, so would prefer to have the Hammerhead before this, to make sure it stays registered. And as for Kasumi, well, every extra squadmember helps!!!

I actually quite enjoyed Pinnacle Station, Bring Down The Sky and Normandy Crash Site.

Zaeed, not so much. I actually uninstalled/reinstalled the game to get rid of him!

Modifié par Tilarta, 24 février 2010 - 08:21 .

[Kaorunandrak]

@ paxcorpus glad you liked that bit lol it just kinda came to me as I was trying to re live the great RTo incident in my mind and thought it was funny >;p

[screwoffreg]

I wouldn't hold your breath for Liara DLC anytime soon. Even if they announce it at GDC, they probably want to build up some buzz for it and release it AFTER the last Redemption comic.



I am really impatient for Kasumi though. I really don't want to do anymore playthroughs knowing full well that I am missing a whole characters dialogue and experience.

[Splinter Cell 108]

I'm sure everyone is expecting the Hammerhead and Kasumi for this "next 2 weeks" thing. As for DLC after that, I'm hoping that we get Eclipse's armor or the ME1 armor variants. It seems stupid to remove the ability to use ME1's medium and heavy armors which most if not all of the enemy NPCs use. I hate when enemies get things that we should also get. As for other DLC, I'm hoping for Palaven the Turian homeworld. We've visited a very important Asari colony and Tuchanka, it's about time the Turians got some attention.