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marshalleck wrote...

Llandaryn wrote...

Within the first five minutes of the game, Cerberus reconstruct Shepard's body, including neural pathways and in-tact memories, from nothing but a DNA sample,

I think you need to go back and watch that video again. Unless you're calling an almost completely intact body a DNA sample, which I guess is technically correct.


Unlike most people on this forum, I haven't even finished the game once, much less 8 times.

I got the impression that the body was extrmely atrophied, to the point where the flesh had already rotted away. Bringing back a patient whose brain has been starved of oxygen even for a few hours in sub-zero temperatures runs the risk of severe brain damage... and Shepard's brain's been without oxygen for quite some time.

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Kurupt87 wrote...

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Of all the scientific inaccuracies packed into this game and science fiction as a whole, you zeroed in on something that is actually scientifically correct. Congratulations, sir. That is not an easy feat.


+1 win


+2 win, I rofl'd.

I think the greatest inaccuracy is the lack of waffles in the 22nd century. It just doesn't make any sense whatsoever. 

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As long as ME handles science better then Star Trek Voyager, I'll be happy.

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SmokePants wrote...

Drayvenn wrote...

Two words "Hawking Radiation".

Please don't help. Hawking Radiation is not visible light and it is VERY faint -- so faint that it has never been observed.


Doesn't matter: it'd still be light, just not in the visible range.  It's still a counterexample to what the OP claims.  There are very good theoretical reasons to believe it occurs. So, yeah, it helps just fine.

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If black holes worked the way the OP imagines, there would be no light at all in the entire cosmos. Let's be thankful there's an event horizon.

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Trenrade wrote...

So I couldn't help but notice when you go through the O4 relay to fight the collectors the black hole is letting light escape, in all actuality this is scientifically impossible.

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What about: 

1. Sound in space.
2. Faster than light travel.
3. Biotics
4. Gravity on ships.
5. Aliens having DNA,
6. Quarians who can't live anywhere contaminated, even their own ships, but somehow their whole home world cannot be contaminated!
7. etc.

FYI black holes are usually extremely bright, during their feeding stage. Nothing that gets to the event horizon can escape, but so much energy is created as stuff falls towards the black hole that a lot of it is ejected. Sparkly!

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As far as we know....
- FTL travel isnt scientifically possible. 
- Theres no sound in space.
- Theres no fire in space.
-  you wouldnt see lazers.

Im sure i could go on.

EVERY science fiction space story violates these know quantities, because soundless fireless invisible lazer space battles without the ability to use ftl travel would be boring.

So why bother complaining about this?

EDIT: and yet another Post that the OP wont reply after realizing he/she is an idiot.

Modifié par tsd16, 24 février 2010 - 10:56 .


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Let's not forget the gamma ray jets from supermassive black holes. Scientists are saying that they are rather bright.

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Yeah most people posting in this thread are hitting good points, there's so many physical impossibilities in this game, but really, what fun would the game be if you couldn't truly see the black hole, or couldn't see lights or lazers in space (which is the physical actuality)?

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tsd16 wrote...

As far as we know....
- FTL travel isnt scientifically possible. 
- Theres no sound in space.
- Theres no fire in space.
-  you wouldnt see lazers.

Im sure i could go on.

EVERY science fiction space story violates these know quantities, because soundless fireless invisible lazer space battles without the ability to use ftl travel would be boring.

So why bother complaining about this?

EDIT: and yet another Post that the OP wont reply after realizing he/she is an idiot.


Isn't it laser? Light Amplification by Stimulated Emission of Radiation.

Modifié par DaveTheJackal, 24 février 2010 - 10:58 .


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Many sci fi games and films have continuity issues, just to make the game look better, would the collector base have looked better on a dull, pitch black background? No, you want the sense that beyond the Omega 4 Relay is indeed a very mysterious and hostile environment

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Llandaryn wrote...
Unlike most people on this forum, I haven't even finished the game once, much less 8 times.


Heard of YouTube?  Or did you just feel like acting haughty?

I got the impression that the body was extrmely atrophied, to the point where the flesh had already rotted away. Bringing back a patient whose brain has been starved of oxygen even for a few hours in sub-zero temperatures runs the risk of severe brain damage... and Shepard's brain's been without oxygen for quite some time.


Well,  atrophy != rot, and neither of them is what happened.  Shep was freeze-dried. 

Modifié par didymos1120, 24 février 2010 - 11:12 .


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SomeKindaEnigma wrote...

there's so many physical impossibilities in this game, but really, what fun would the game be if you couldn't truly see the black hole, or couldn't see lights or lazers in space (which is the physical actuality)?


Scientists want to kill our fun.

It's a fact.

Jules Verne is probably rolling in his grave.

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Why are so many people ignoring the simple truth that this is indeed a fairly accurate portrayal of a black hole? Five minutes of research on Wikipedia might do you bonobos some good.

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ASARIS CAN MIND MELD. that's pretty inaccurate right there.

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It's an accretion disk

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didymos1120 wrote...

Llandaryn wrote...
Unlike most people on this forum, I haven't even finished the game once, much less 8 times.


Heard of YouTube?  Or did you just feel like acting haughty?


That's on YouTube now? God, the things people will put on there these days....

But no. I prefer to experience things for myself. Which is why I haven't watched any of the romance dialogues on it, and I only watched Scientist Salarian three times after I'd already seen it for myself in game. When it comes down to it, everything just looks so much more awesome on my big HDTV than it does on YouTube.

I got the impression that the body was extrmely atrophied, to the point where the flesh had already rotted away. Bringing back a patient whose brain has been starved of oxygen even for a few hours in sub-zero temperatures runs the risk of severe brain damage... and Shepard's brain's been without oxygen for quite some time.


Well,  atrophy != rot, and that's neither of them is what happened.  Shep was freeze-dried. 


Then I stand humbly corrected, and concede my point. Resurrecting atrophied neural tissue to its former state = physical impossibility. Re-animating freeze-dried neural tissue... I do that on my way to solving major scientific conundrums.

Modifié par Llandaryn, 24 février 2010 - 11:06 .


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Black holes don't necessarily look black.

Stephen Hawking says so.

/thread.

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OH GOD THE INACCURACIES!



Jesus man, it's a video game. If Mass Effect were scientifically accurate, there would be no goddamn sound in space. When they fire lasers, have explosions, scream, whatever. Nothing. So how about this:



Mute your volume when you play Mass Effect, that way you're going to be as scientifically accurate when you play the game.



Blimey... seriously, this thread is a good laugh for me. Scientifically accurate... hah.

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That isn't a black hole.   Thats an acretion disc surrounding a black hole.   Obviously, black holes are not that big.   There...holes.   

Modifié par newcomplex, 24 février 2010 - 11:08 .


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God this is a depressing thread.

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Llandaryn wrote...

marshalleck wrote...

Llandaryn wrote...

Within the first five minutes of the game, Cerberus reconstruct Shepard's body, including neural pathways and in-tact memories, from nothing but a DNA sample,

I think you need to go back and watch that video again. Unless you're calling an almost completely intact body a DNA sample, which I guess is technically correct.


Unlike most people on this forum, I haven't even finished the game once, much less 8 times.

I got the impression that the body was extrmely atrophied, to the point where the flesh had already rotted away. Bringing back a patient whose brain has been starved of oxygen even for a few hours in sub-zero temperatures runs the risk of severe brain damage... and Shepard's brain's been without oxygen for quite some time.




What the **** does watching a video that starts at the beginning of the game have to do with playing it eight times?

And flesh doesn't rot in space.

~_~

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TheRomans wrote...

God this is a depressing thread.


It sure is.  

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tsd16 wrote...

As far as we know....
- FTL travel isnt scientifically possible. 
- Theres no sound in space.
- Theres no fire in space.
-  you wouldnt see lazers.

Im sure i could go on.

EVERY science fiction space story violates these know quantities, because soundless fireless invisible lazer space battles without the ability to use ftl travel would be boring.

So why bother complaining about this?

EDIT: and yet another Post that the OP wont reply after realizing he/she is an idiot.


Particles traveling at FTL speed is possible and was tested numerous times in labs. Acceleration of regular particles to FTL speed is impossible, because you have to go through the "speed of light" barrier. Totally different things. ME universe defies the second.

"No fire in space", not entirely true. It depends on how you release your heat. Fire is possible because liquid oxygen is mixed with fuel, and "TADA" fire in space.

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tsd16 wrote...
- FTL travel isnt scientifically possible. 


Debatable.  Physicists actually write serious papers on it on a fairly regular basis.  Let's say "Unlikely."

- Theres no sound in space.


As typically depicted, no.  However, sound actually did occur in the early universe.  It was still space, just not the near-perfect vacuum that dominates now.


- Theres no fire in space.


If there's oxygen available, sure there is.  Some materials can effectively "self-oxidize" by releasing oxygen which is immediately combusted.  But no, it's usually not very accurately done.

-  you wouldnt see lazers.


In ME, we didn't.  Sovereign and the Thanix are actually using confined jets of molten metal.  The Collectors use a particle beam, and that strongly implies it's matter, and matter can emit EM.  Especially when accelerated to very high velocities and/or carrying a charge.  Also, if you're in an atmosphere or there's enough dust or whatnot, scattering could easily make lasers visible.  Again, yeah, mostly this is not paid attention to.