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[glasgoo21]

Thane already died in mine, took one for the team. His speaches made me paranoiac, no wonder they warn you for sideeffects when playing to long.

[Fat Headed Wolf]

SelphieSK wrote...

Fat Headed Wolf wrote...

Criz-Zone wrote...

actuall I'm more concerned about Morin dying at the beginning of ME3
he might not have the death sentence disease of Thane, but the way I understood it, he's already really old for a Salarian...
and *that* would actually really give m a gut wrenching feeling

still Thane dying wouldn't exactly start things off very happily, but letting him live would just spoil things, so... I'd rather be sad, but happy about the game, than happy because he lives but angry at the writing... if that makes sense

I forgot about Mordin, good point. 

I think I heard he is above 40 years old, which means he's got one foot in the ground when it comes to Salarians.

Mordin isn't really 40, it's just the human equivalent or something... Like, Grunt isn't actually 22 (but one year old I think).

Ah...... Thanks for that. I don't follow this stuff as ravenously as other do. 

[Zulu_DFA]

Everyone else wants Thane die before ME3.

[Cloaking_Thane]

I would be , but understand if he dies

[Collider]

I'm kind of conflicted about this. Thane did say he was going to die, but what about the people who romanced him? Perhaps we can cure him with a sidequest or something, either way it should not be something that destroys the significance of his disease.

[Shadow_Puppet]

While all the points raised in here are valid ones and I can definately see where you all are coming from, I would have to say that I would be against Thane succumbing to his illness in ME3 and there are many more like me with similar opinions.
To be fair I think Bioware should include a choice of whether or not the PC should be able to save Thane...maybe not even go as far to cure him completely, but to prolong his life long enough for a happy ending, because I for one am a sucker for happy endings .
A choice within the game will cater to both sides of this arguement, because while most of you guys would be upset if Thane did NOT die from his illness, I myself and many others would be upset if he did, so one way or the other one side will lose out and I don't think that is really fair.

Don't get me wrong though I still think Thane should suffer the effects of his illness in ME3 and I also agree that for those of us that choose to cure/help Thane should have to deal with some sort of negative consequence that would be a result of doing so.

Modifié par Shadow_Puppet, 24 février 2010 - 07:47 .

[RevanMg]

Actually it would be consistent if you could save him but only if you didn't destroy the Collector Base. In other words save him with Reapers' technology.

[SelphieSK]

RevanMg wrote...

Actually it would be consistent if you could save him but only if you didn't destroy the Collector Base. In other words save him with Reapers' technology.

Erf no, I'd rather let him die!

[Chael90]

Shadow_Puppet wrote...
Don't get me wrong though I still think Thane should suffer the effects of his illness in ME3 and I also agree that for those of us that choose to cure/help Thane should have to deal with some sort of negative consequence that would be a result of doing so.

I agree. I wonder if we can choose to spend time searching some (almost temporary) remedy for him, but this implicate less time for preparation for the imminent war, with a lot of repercussions. I hope that we can let him live, but this must have a certain cost...

[kaimanaMM]

Yes, let's punish those who chose to romance Thane. We obviously made the wrong choice so we should be penalized for it while everyone else continues on through ME3 with their chosen LI. We should have all just rolled MaleSheps and romanced Tali since that's what BW must have wanted in the first place!



Honestly.



I wish people would stop defining Thane by his illness in addition to claiming their gameplay choices should trump mine. Thane was given to us as a romance option for a reason. It would be a pretty poor showing of BW to say, "hurr hurr YOU LOSE for romancing Thane, you had it coming hurr hurr!". Should his health show signs of deterioration? You bet, he's ill and he's dying. But why should I not be given a chance at a happy ending just because I romanced him? I should have just as much right to my rainbows and puppies as anyone else.



A simple solution would be have a cure / sidequest available for him if you romanced him, if not, then he kicks the bucket. There. If you didn't romance him, let him die like you want him to because obviously there's nothing more to him than his illness.

[Sialater]

Well, I haven't romanced him, but I don't want him to die either.

[Shadow_Puppet]

That's why I agree 100% with putting a choice of curing him in ME3, I honestly can't see what the problem would be with that.



You people that actually want him to die, feel free you can do that, I'm not gonna dictate as to how you should play your game.



And the ones who think otherwise can get a chance to save him.



Win on both sides, don't see any problem with it at all.

[Fat Headed Wolf]

kaimanaMM wrote...

Yes, let's punish those who chose to romance Thane. We obviously made the wrong choice so we should be penalized for it while everyone else continues on through ME3 with their chosen LI. We should have all just rolled MaleSheps and romanced Tali since that's what BW must have wanted in the first place!

Honestly.

I wish people would stop defining Thane by his illness in addition to claiming their gameplay choices should trump mine. Thane was given to us as a romance option for a reason. It would be a pretty poor showing of BW to say, "hurr hurr YOU LOSE for romancing Thane, you had it coming hurr hurr!". Should his health show signs of deterioration? You bet, he's ill and he's dying. But why should I not be given a chance at a happy ending just because I romanced him? I should have just as much right to my rainbows and puppies as anyone else.

A simple solution would be have a cure / sidequest available for him if you romanced him, if not, then he kicks the bucket. There. If you didn't romance him, let him die like you want him to because obviously there's nothing more to him than his illness.

Uh...... I have a few things to approach here and I am gonna try to do them all with caution.......

First, I don't know if your mad or something (can't tell in text some times), but that was never my intention. In fact, look at my first post of the thread; I said I liked the character, a lot.

I never said I thought you should be "penalized" for romancing Thane, but lets be serious...... You knew he was sick. If you fall in love with a person who has cancer and has some  months to live, don't be surprised when they die in eight months. You knew what you signed up for; so to speak.

Second, I don't see the whole "optional cure" thing happening. Of course I have no evidence, but just an opinion that is worth no more or less than yours.

Third, its not like I want Thane to die because I dislike his character, I just want him to die so it owns up to what was said in ME2 ( the whole 8 to 12 months thing. No cure coming until a few years down the road).  

There, I think I handled that well enough to not start a flame war with someone. Guess we'll see. 

[Druss99]

Fat Headed Wolf wrote...

SelphieSK wrote...

Fat Headed Wolf wrote...

Criz-Zone wrote...

actuall I'm more concerned about Morin dying at the beginning of ME3
he might not have the death sentence disease of Thane, but the way I understood it, he's already really old for a Salarian...
and *that* would actually really give m a gut wrenching feeling

still Thane dying wouldn't exactly start things off very happily, but letting him live would just spoil things, so... I'd rather be sad, but happy about the game, than happy because he lives but angry at the writing... if that makes sense

I forgot about Mordin, good point. 

I think I heard he is above 40 years old, which means he's got one foot in the ground when it comes to Salarians.

Mordin isn't really 40, it's just the human equivalent or something... Like, Grunt isn't actually 22 (but one year old I think).

Ah...... Thanks for that. I don't follow this stuff as ravenously as other do. 

Erm I think he actually is around 40 maybe not exactly 40 though. Salarians have a life span of about 50 years, which is apparently why they talk and move so fast, if I recall correctly from ME1.  Mordin mentions in ME2 during or just after his loyalty mission that he is in the last decade of his life.

[Joshua Hawkeye]

He doesn't die in ME3, he dies inbetween ME2 and 3, or atleast, that's how I think it's going to be. Having a terminal disease is terrible. It kinda adds to his character, though.

Modifié par Joshua Hawkeye, 24 février 2010 - 08:31 .

[Shadow_Puppet]

Joshua Hawkeye wrote...

He doesn't die in ME3, he dies inbetween ME2 and 3, or atleast, that's how I think it's going to be. Having a terminal disease is terrible.

Seriously? What was the point in having him survive the suicide mission just for him to die at the start of ME3?
Completely pointless....

[SelphieSK]

Joshua Hawkeye wrote...

He doesn't die in ME3, he dies inbetween ME2 and 3, or atleast, that's how I think it's going to be. Having a terminal disease is terrible. It kinda adds to his character, though.

Having him die off-screen (or, "off-game") would be lame.

[Joshua Hawkeye]

Shadow_Puppet wrote...

Joshua Hawkeye wrote...

He doesn't die in ME3, he dies inbetween ME2 and 3, or atleast, that's how I think it's going to be. Having a terminal disease is terrible.

Seriously? What was the point in having him survive the suicide mission just for him to die at the start of ME3?
Completely pointless....

He JOINS your suicide mission because he is about to die anyway. The whole terminal disease thing made him into the guy he is. If ME3 is a few years later, and he somehow manages to overcome his terminal disease (which would feel a bit... lame), that would change him. In a way I will probably not like

[Joshua Hawkeye]

(This was originally a double post, so I will use this space for something more usefull)

Having him die off-screen (or, "off-game") would be lame.

Having him not die at all would probably be lame to considering the character... Choices, choices .

Mabye we could visit his sickbed at one point?

Modifié par Joshua Hawkeye, 24 février 2010 - 08:35 .

[Druss99]

kaimanaMM wrote...

Yes, let's punish those who chose to romance Thane. We obviously made the wrong choice so we should be penalized for it while everyone else continues on through ME3 with their chosen LI. We should have all just rolled MaleSheps and romanced Tali since that's what BW must have wanted in the first place!
Honestly.
I wish people would stop defining Thane by his illness in addition to claiming their gameplay choices should trump mine. Thane was given to us as a romance option for a reason. It would be a pretty poor showing of BW to say, "hurr hurr YOU LOSE for romancing Thane, you had it coming hurr hurr!". Should his health show signs of deterioration? You bet, he's ill and he's dying. But why should I not be given a chance at a happy ending just because I romanced him? I should have just as much right to my rainbows and puppies as anyone else.
A simple solution would be have a cure / sidequest available for him if you romanced him, if not, then he kicks the bucket. There. If you didn't romance him, let him die like you want him to because obviously there's nothing more to him than his illness.

But Thane IS defined by his illness. Have you even listened to him? Its more or less his motivation for everything he does, he is dying and he knows it. How is following up on his story punishing people who romanced him? They did it with the full disclosure that he is dying.

Saying that though we dont know how much the illness actually affects him. He is still a highly skilled and capable assassin with what a year or so left? He could be in ME3 and part of the squad just with even less time left depending on how long after ME2 its set.

[Shadow_Puppet]

Then there should have been no OPTION for him to survive the suicide mission at all, he should have just died in ME2 but he didn't we had the option of him surviving thus he SHOULD be in ME3 regardless of if he can be cured or not.

Modifié par Shadow_Puppet, 24 février 2010 - 08:37 .

[EliteZev]

Mordin is 50.

[Lvl20DM]

We don't really know how they are going to approach ME 3, but I'm assuming that he will die before or during that game. Either way I don't see him being a squad-mate.

[Shadow_Puppet]

Well he has 8-12 left months to live an judging by the final cutscene I would assume that it is not going to take that long for the reapers to show up, I think ME3 will take place a few months after ME2, so it is likely Thane will still be alive.

[Epantiras]

The Angry One wrote...

She's suffering neural degradation, probably due to the experiments performed on her.
Actually it's quite amusing how the love interests parallel each other for both genders.

[...]

Thane/Jack
Weird lookin. death sentence

I think us fans should focus on this parallelism. I mean, it's like Bioware is throwing hints of ME3 at us. If it's not a matter of "optional cure", it's a sign that Thane's illness will have some kind of importance in Me3.