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[Neria Rose]

77boy84 wrote...

I think it's a bit weird.

I can kind of get the Asari because they're sexually compatible with all races ever.

But turians, quarians, and drell? I can't see it. Garrus and Tali just look too weird, imo. They have the general shape of humans, but I could never see myself getting intimate with either of them,

Ah, well. More for me! Garrus, Thane, Kal'Reegar, here I come!! :wub:

[Llandaryn]

Sialater wrote...

Tell that to the half-krogan Asari bartender on Illium who's name I cannot spell.

That is learned behaviour from having a krogan as a father. Personality is not genetic. If you spent a few hundred years growing up with your 'father' figure a krogan, you would learn some of his behaviour and mannerisms too. Children mimic their parents -- it's how they learn.

[Ghostano]

 I think if done right they can be just as nice as human/human ones. Were I liked Tali and the fact you could start something that may have had its spark in the first game. There was something off not bad just alittle off. I woudl explain it if I could but I can not. If though you know her from the first game it just seems it would be better if there was more conversations before the end. I also have the feeling her loseing her father the way she did effects her feelings and desire to make her move on you.

 Ugh that was a long way of saying if it is a relationship first then romance I think it works out well. Just getting into there pants is alittle  to me.

 Then again I liked the Liara romance from the first ME what do I know

[Biotic_Warlock]

Llandaryn wrote...

Sialater wrote...

Tell that to the half-krogan Asari bartender on Illium who's name I cannot spell.

That is learned behaviour from having a krogan as a father. Personality is not genetic. If you spent a few hundred years growing up with your 'father' figure a krogan, you would learn some of his behaviour and mannerisms too. Children mimic their parents -- it's how they learn.

and the deep voice too?

[Brass_Buckles]

enormousmoonboots wrote...

People debating sexual incompatibility: everyone involved has fingers. Problem solved. Star Trek fans solved this problem ages ago.

Geez, you people are uncreative.

Now... this I have to laugh at.  I'm sorry, but you just gave me a serious case of the giggles.

And to the poster above:

It was said that asari are the only ones who can reproduce with some other species; however, it's also noted in the codex that it's illegal for humans to genetically modify themselves to be hybrids with genetically compatible alien species.  Therefore, the assumption is that there are genetically compatible alien species out there.

That said, I don't think that any of the species we've been introduced to are genetically compatible with humans.  They might have more or less the same parts, in some cases, but that doesn't mean that you're "reproducing" with them if you romance them.  All it means is that you've indulged in recreational sex.  Or that your hormones are out of whack and your instinct is telling you to do the impossible:  reproduce with something that you cannot possibly reproduce with.  Either way, "having sex" is not the same as "reproducing," or I assure you there'd be far more than the 6+ billion people on Earth right now.  Reproduction would imply, you know, offspring.

Modifié par Brass_Buckles, 24 février 2010 - 09:46 .

[Deflagratio]

Zulu_DFA wrote...

No, sir, you are not the only one.
Sex with aliens is a major detachment from science fiction in the direction of Tolkienism.

It's actually more akin to science fact than science fiction, for as long as other things besides the Human Female has existed, man has attempted to have intercourse with it. Just so you know, there was a point in history where a the same things were said about a white woman sleeping with a black man (Or vice versa). That's just silly and inconcievable!


Long story short, Get the **** over yourselves.

[Llandaryn]

Biotic_Warlock wrote...

Llandaryn wrote...

Sialater wrote...

Tell that to the half-krogan Asari bartender on Illium who's name I cannot spell.

That is learned behaviour from having a krogan as a father. Personality is not genetic. If you spent a few hundred years growing up with your 'father' figure a krogan, you would learn some of his behaviour and mannerisms too. Children mimic their parents -- it's how they learn.

and the deep voice too?

Who said asari all have to sound like wilting flowers?

[screwoffreg]

If the aliens are humanoid enough to be attractive, why would you be surprised?

Avatar's characters were entirely based on Cameron's vision of having an alien species the crowd would be comfortable having sex with. He says this in an interview. Bioware obviously took such a route as almost every alien has some features that humans might find intriguing, if not out right enticing. Look at the blue skinned smooth Asari or the enigmatic but shapely Quarians.

To NOT be attracted to them after so much is to be weird. They were DESIGNED to be palatable to humans. If you wanted REALISTIC aliens then the movie where giant cockroaches were captured and held by humanity might be more up your alley!

Modifié par screwoffreg, 24 février 2010 - 09:44 .

[trigger2kill1]

Yes and the deep voice too. Getting yelled at makes one prone to yelling back. With enough yelling and screaming you will develop a deeper voice.

[Remaix]

77boy84 wrote...

I think it's a bit weird.

I can kind of get the Asari because they're sexually compatible with all races ever.

But turians, quarians, and drell? I can't see it. Garrus and Tali just look too weird, imo. They have the general shape of humans, but I could never see myself getting intimate with either of them,

*glares*
*gets ready to throw out arguments*
...
*deeeeeeep breath*
*counts to ten*
Good for you.

[Obliterati]

In and of itself, yes - interspecies sex is extremely silly. Or rather, the concept of alien species having physical traits attractive to humans is silly. Even our closest genetic relatives here on Earth don't share identical sexual characteristics. We don't find apes to be sexually attractive, and they're practically genetic twins to us.



Well, okay...SOME people probably get off looking at chimpanzee asses...but those people are in the extreme minority, to say the least.



But in the larger scheme of things, in game context, it's...well, it's not any more silly than finding out that Charon is actually an ancient interstellar space runway encased in ice. Asari shouldn't look exactly like humans with the same boobs, same butts and same mating habits. But since they do, why not get it on with them?





tl;dr: Asari are silly, yes. But if Asari DID exist, you know we'd be humping like rabbits.

[Neria Rose]

Darht Jayder wrote...

Your point on blue space babes.....I see what you are saying now and agree.

For the rest of it  fair enough.  But whatever you call it ....mind melding or intercourse, they were written as they only ones who could reproduce with another species.  In Me 2 that all went out the window it seems and many species now can do it in one way or another.  To me that is a huge inconsistency.

Who said anything about reproducing? I thought this was about recreational sex, not attempts at making mutant babies.

[SandTrout]

Darht Jayder wrote...
Your point on blue space babes.....I see what you are saying now and agree.

For the rest of it  fair enough.  But whatever you call it ....mind melding or intercourse, they were written as they only ones who could reproduce with another species.  In Me 2 that all went out the window it seems and many species now can do it in one way or another.  To me that is a huge inconsistency.

Incorrect. Asari are the only species that can reproduce through interspecies relations, but that doesn't mean they aren't the only speciece that participates in them. As stated, any phystical relations between species is purely recreational. It should be noted that if you play a femshep, Garrus doesn't even acknowledge you in a sexual way at all unless you bring up the topic, and then he goes on to state that he's never considered inter-species relations before. He clearly considered Shepherd and himself in a platonic relationship rather than a romantic one,  but when you choose to bring it up, he expresses that it is Shepherd's personality rather than her appearence that makes the relationship acceptable, and even then, he still thinks its weird, though not disgusting.

[enormousmoonboots]

Darht Jayder wrote...
For the rest of it  fair enough.  But whatever you call it ....mind melding or intercourse, they were written as they only ones who could reproduce with another species.  In Me 2 that all went out the window it seems and many species now can do it in one way or another.  To me that is a huge inconsistency.

You're conflating intercourse with reproduction. You can have sex without having children. Nobody's reproducing with one another except asari couples; any other interspecies romance is childless (with the exception of adoption).

Brass_Buckles wrote...

enormousmoonboots wrote...

People
debating sexual incompatibility: everyone involved has fingers. Problem
solved. Star Trek fans solved this problem ages ago.

Geez, you people are uncreative.

Now... this I have to laugh at.  I'm sorry, but you just gave me a serious case of the giggles.

Well, I try. *bow*

[SL22]

Aliens are kawaii desu~ X3

[Jake71887]

Darht Jayder wrote...

Neria Rose wrote...

Darht Jayder wrote...

Your point on blue space babes.....I see what you are saying now and agree.

For the rest of it  fair enough.  But whatever you call it ....mind melding or intercourse, they were written as they only ones who could reproduce with another species.  In Me 2 that all went out the window it seems and many species now can do it in one way or another.  To me that is a huge inconsistency.

Who said anything about reproducing? I thought this was about recreational sex, not attempts at making mutant babies.

Whether it is recreational or not...it has to make sense and it doesn't

Just because you fail at logic, doesn't mean it doesn't make sense. 

[Nightfire78]

Darht Jayder wrote...

IccaRa wrote...

Darht Jayder wrote...

True but based on Lore from ME1 only Asari makes sense and the reset were simply fan service in my opinion and are far from making sense.

Asari are the original and most blatant of alien fanservices. And I don't see how they make any more sense than the others, unless you mean the reproductive thing, and even that's BS. Asari don't inherit anything from their "fathers." They're a product of the mother randomizing the second set of her own genes through the melding process. There is no biological incentive to romance an asari whatsoever. So that said, all liasons with asari are recreational in nature. There is no reason other humanoid aliens could not also engage in such recreational activities.

Ain't any sweat off my back if some people have issues with alien love, though. More for me.

what do you mean by alien fanservices?  second of all it is science fiction so in the lore it makes sense that asari can reproduce with any other species.  It was suggested that they are they only ones in the galaxy hence their reputation as sex objects.  Recreational on the father's part...fine....but makes sense with the lore.  All others don't and were thrown in because of all the "I support Tali etc....threads"

So, going with this logic, a sterile human male/female (for example through disease, cancer, birth defect or voluntary choice) should not hook up with anyone because it's "silly" and makes no sense because they can't reproduce? Not being able to reproduce is not the same as not being able to share intimacy (and reproduction is indeed the only thing mentioned). That makes sense with real world facts, no sci fi lore required.

And what if it is a choice related to the support threads? It's a game, created by a game company with the noble goal of making money so their employees can eat and pay rent. It's not a fact-filled educational game, and the lore is by no means complete.

I could see people being upset if they were *forced* into a rel. with an alien without wanting to or having the capability to suspend disbelief that far, but you can play the whole game 1. without any romance at all or 2. with a human romance or 3. not at all if it's that big a thorn in your side that the alien romances are available for people who choose them. I think the cliched secretary romance is "silly", so I just don't pick the romance options and move on. Nice platonic relationship, problem solved.

[Neria Rose]

Darht Jayder wrote...

Whether it is recreational or not...it has to make sense and it doesn't

If there can be interspecies prostitution with the following, I can guarantee you someone would find a way to 'blow off steam' with a Turian or any other bipedal alien:

Modifié par Neria Rose, 24 février 2010 - 09:52 .

[Deflagratio]

Obliterati wrote...

In and of itself, yes - interspecies sex is extremely silly. Or rather, the concept of alien species having physical traits attractive to humans is silly. Even our closest genetic relatives here on Earth don't share identical sexual characteristics. We don't find apes to be sexually attractive, and they're practically genetic twins to us.

Well, okay...SOME people probably get off looking at chimpanzee asses...but those people are in the extreme minority, to say the least.

But in the larger scheme of things, in game context, it's...well, it's not any more silly than finding out that Charon is actually an ancient interstellar space runway encased in ice. Asari shouldn't look exactly like humans with the same boobs, same butts and same mating habits. But since they do, why not get it on with them?


tl;dr: Asari are silly, yes. But if Asari DID exist, you know we'd be humping like rabbits.

Genetic disposition has no bearing on a personality or ability of cognition. Kaiden Alenko Summed Aliens up the best. They're just human. Saints and Jerks.

A Sexual attraction based on physical characteristics is not the only means to the end, if you believe that, then you are in for a sad and lonely, unfullfilling life. Many people are more attracted to the personalities. Which probably explains why 2/3 the Female Romances are Aliens and 2/3 the Male romances are Human. Women have the uncanny ability to just close there eyes, and all of a sudden, that's anything's tube checking your fluid levels. Men, not so much.

[Briallen]

Markinator_123 wrote...

Am I the only one who finds alien romance/sex silly?

Yes.

[Llandaryn]

Darht Jayder wrote...

Whether it is recreational or not...it has to make sense and it doesn't

Quantum Indeterminacy, except on a very basic level involving some uncertainty principles and some basic atomic models, doesn't make sense to me, but that doesn't stop me from going with it. I'm more willing to accept that my perceptions of quantum indeterminacy simply aren't advanced enough, than quantum indeterminacy being wrong just because I don't fully understand it.

[screwoffreg]

Sexualized aliens have been around since before Captain Kirk laid down with green women. Its part of the sci fi mythos and fantasy...



Who wouldn't want to have sex with an Asari?