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[EternalWolfe]

I want my old squadmates back.



I wouldn't mind a few extras - its possible to start ME3 with only Ashley/Kaiden and Liara still alive(i suppose, I don't know the min number of survivors for shepard to survived), so a few would be nice, since some of the others might not be coming back(Mordin is rather old for a Salarian, Samara might not be friendly if you were Renegade, ect) although some might be ignorable by story-warping(hey, Mordin managed to cure Thane!). But I would like the majority to be my old squad survivors.

[Zulu_DFA]

Man785 wrote...

BTW I support the OP. Have all the old companions go off and do important things because of their involvement with Shepard. The experience helped them grow out of the role of Shepard grunt to leader of their respective people.
NEW SQUADMATES!

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[Zulu_DFA]

redguppie wrote...

I don't want old Squad, I want new = "mommy I want a new puppy, I'm bored with this one"

Old puppies should have become big doggies by now. And had their own kennels in the backyard.

EternalWolfe wrote...

I want my old squadmates back.

I wouldn't mind a few extras - its possible to start ME3 with only Ashley/Kaiden and Liara still alive(i suppose, I don't know the min number of survivors for shepard to survived), so a few would be nice, since some of the others might not be coming back(Mordin is rather old for a Salarian, Samara might not be friendly if you were Renegade, ect) although some might be ignorable by story-warping(hey, Mordin managed to cure Thane!). But I would like the majority to be my old squad survivors.

Bringing back old squadmates is a poor story telling. People dont stick together for long periods of time, unless they are very close friends. Even bringing back Liara and Ashley/Kaidan is a little lame, but at least it has its story ark, and with Tali and garrus getting their attention in ME2, Liare and Ashley/Kaidan are a must. But the ather characters should move on. Keep close contacts with Shepard, work in the same direction (stopping the Reapers), but in new positions, in their own way. Be Shepard's envoys to their races, sort of. Only Miranda and Jacob have in-game reasons to stay by Shepard, especially if he's not planning to quit Cerberus. Or they could do something important separately. More important, than trailing behind Shepard like flunkeys.

Modifié par Zulu_DFA, 26 février 2010 - 06:42 .

[mopotter]

FlyinElk212 wrote...

OP: Interesting idea, but if we're going to have new squadmates in ME3, I'd want them to be kick-ass NPCs from previous games. Something along the lines of Aria, or Kal'Reeger (you mentioned both), or Captain Kirrahe.

I agree with this.  1st returning squad.  

 I've got multiple saves and in some people died, in others I have everyone alive at the end.  But I want Kaidan/Ash, Garrus, Tali and Liara, legion, Grunt, Thane, Mordin for sure.   Those are most likely the ones I will work with no matter who is available.  And Jacob and Miranda along with the rest of your ME2 crew are fine.  Really don't need a whole batch of new squad members. 

At the most, maybe 2 or 3 new ones to replace any one who died and they should be someone we have worked with in 1 and 2 as you and others have mentioned.  Gianna Parasini, Kal'Reeger, Captain Kirrahe, Shiala, not some new character. 

[Zulu_DFA]

mopotter wrote...
... they should be someone we have worked with in 1 and 2 as you and others have mentioned.  Gianna Parasini, Kal'Reeger, Captain Kirrahe, Shiala, not some new character. 

I'd put any one of these characters on the crew ahead of Grunt, Thane, Tali, Garrus (he used to be an OK guy but has worked off his potential by now), Jacob. Jack and Samara would have hard times competing with those NPCs. Gianna Parasini > Miranda as LI. Alas, they are all expendable. Not going to happen.

Modifié par Zulu_DFA, 26 février 2010 - 08:05 .

[BattleVisor]

Zulu_DFA wrote...


5. Male Human. Alliance soldier. I mean a real space marine, with no daddy issues of any type. Like the one telling the new recruits about how badass Sir Isaac Newton is. Like Corporal Jenkins, who was lucky enough to live past his first goof in the field and learn from it. Not a love interest. Very formal with Shepard. Not so fond of Ashley/Kaidan though, because of their second-guessing Shepard's Cerberus affiliation, but accepts everything Shepard says with "Aye-aye, suh" and "Suh, yes, suh!"
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Anything but a douchebag aka Kaidan and improved kaidan 2.0 (jacob)

But he should be more relaxed and chilled

Modifié par BattleVisor, 26 février 2010 - 10:34 .

[mopotter]

Zulu_DFA wrote...

mopotter wrote...
... they should be someone we have worked with in 1 and 2 as you and others have mentioned.  Gianna Parasini, Kal'Reeger, Captain Kirrahe, Shiala, not some new character. 

I'd put any one of these characters on the crew ahead of Grunt, Thane, Tali, Garrus (he used to be an OK guy but has worked off his potential by now), Jacob. Jack and Samara would have hard times competing with those NPCs. Gianna Parasini > Miranda as LI. Alas, they are all expendable. Not going to happen.

I can't say I'd miss Jack.  Grunt I don't mind.  But for me a trilogy is something like Lord of the Rings, or Star Wars (IV,V Vi), Xmen, Matrix, some did a better job than others, but .   It's a group of comrads, or friends who go thru a story that takes 3 games/movie/whatever to finish. 

While I don't care if they all survive through the 3 games, I do want the ones I like to be available in the last game, and I assume (should never assume but I do it anyway) that others have NPC's they want to see in the last  game.  

I can rationalize not having Wrex, Reapers are important but I can see him wanting to lead his Krogan 
But the LI need to be there (I"ll pout and throw a tantrum if Kaidan isn't fighting next to me)  and I don't see any real reason the others would wonder off to do something else if they didn't die in either game.

Now that, possibility of dying in the game, could make them leave the group.  Wrex is a good example.  He could have died and so he is now leader of the Krogan if you didn't kill him and if you did kill him, he's just not there.  This is the only reason I can see for the group to move on and it's why Ash, Kaidan and Liara didn't join you in ME2.   We will just have to wait and  continue to speculate, complain and whine until they start giving us some hints.  

I do trust BioWare (though DA has tested that trust) so I'll just keep reading what people say and stick in my 2cents every now and then.



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[Karstedt]

Insincere endorsement: I think an elcor squad mate would rock. I would also like to see a volus or hanar.

[Zulu_DFA]

Karstedt wrote...

Insincere endorsement: I think an elcor squad mate would rock. I would also like to see a volus or hanar.

This one humbly suggests that it would be pleased to join the other, known as Commander Shepard, in his noble feats and wanders solely purposed for the preservation of the Galaxy in the name of the Enkindlers. However, this one finds it impossible to tolerate when it is called derogatory names and would wish the other refrained from doing so and compelled his followers to act the same.

Modifié par Zulu_DFA, 28 février 2010 - 12:02 .

[sickblaze]

I want to hire a Volus assistant to help Mordin in the tech lab.

[Zulu_DFA]

sickblaze wrote...

I want to hire a Volus assistant to help Mordin in the tech lab.

Volus are so slow and clumsy. Mordin will be furious all the time!

[Master Smurf]

There should only be 2-3 and they dont all have to be recruited.

Loyalty Missions were fine but shouldnt be part of ME3 (maybe only a few - not each squad member)

Have squad members be critical to the mission or just want to help you - in ME2 how many of the crew were really needed for the mission - just reading the dossiers I wouldnt even bother recruiting half of them:



Mordin - Yes, Jack - No, (Archangel - No but Garrus - Yes), (Okeer -Yes but Grunt - No), Thane - No, Samara - Maybe, Tali and Legion - Yes



They are all great characters but it didnt seem logical to go and recruit some of them, then to go on a mission for them then to go on the suicide mission.

TIM has all the info - maybe more Collector battles before Omega 4 relay, more plot progress - not just showing up and saying I need your help to fight against the boogeyman.

[Zulu_DFA]

Master Smurf wrote...

There should only be 2-3 and they dont all have to be recruited.
Loyalty Missions were fine but shouldnt be part of ME3...

OMG!
Recruitment & loyalty missions were only in ME2, and only to fill in the diskspace by telling funny stories with little to no connection with the main story of the trilogy, aka "Shepard vs. Reapers"

In ME1 Shepard had 6 squadmates and 0 (i.e. zero, nought) recruitment and/or loyalty missions. ME3 can have 50 new never before heard off recruitable characters and zero recruitment/loyalty missions.

Stow it!

[Colinissile]

I want an elcor! he can go around in a floating chair or something and shoot laser beams from guns attached to his shoulders or something. and he can slap people.

[Razorsedge820]

I want a batarian squadmate who is a real smart ass.

[eternalnightmare13]

These would work good for another ME game down the road, but not for ME3.  ME3 should use the cast from ME1 and ME2.

Zulu_DFA wrote...

Disclaimer: New squadmates DO NOT REQUIRE RECRUITMENT/LOYALTY missions. If someone thinks, that every new squadmate requires a reqruitment mission to be recruited and a loyalty mission to get to full capacity, go play Mass Effect One, where zero squadmates out of six had their personal reqruitment/loyalty missions that deviated from the main plot (Oh, Garrus and Wrex had their personal quests, but they were completely optional, like ME2's N7 missions).

Variant

1. Turian. Garrus himself says he is not a good turian. We need a good one. As badass as the Turian Councillor or the Refund Guy shopkeeper. Also, we haven't seen turian biotics yet, and those may have some unique fancy tricks.

2. Asari. All we've got so far is a nerdy virgin and a post-menopause nun. We need one that just decided that ass-shaking is enough and it's merc time! This doesn't mean Liara is off the crew. Two young asari ... mmmm... BTW having a sexy asary in the current squad should provide a "charm" bonus during negotiations (strange how they haven't come up with such a thing yet.)

3. Salarian. Mordin's nephew sounds cool. Joins in to save the Galaxy and get a good reproduction contract.

4. Batarian. Aria's Anto would suffice, but he needs to be able to tell the batarian version of the Skillian Blitz / Torfan / Mindoir story, and about Batarian history, culture, biology -- all the Codex things. Gives "intimidation" bonus to Shepard while in the shore party.

5. Human. Alliance soldier. I mean a real space marine, with no daddy issues of any type. Like the one telling the new recruits about how badass Sir Isaac Newton is. Like Corporal Jenkins, who was lucky enough to live past his first goof in the field and learn from it. Not a love interest. Very formal with Shepard. Not so fond of Ashley/Kaidan though, because of their second-guessing Shepard's Cerberus affiliation, but accepts everything Shepard says with "Aye-aye, suh" and "Suh, yes, suh!"

6. Quarian. Kal'Reegar would be awesome. Too bad he is expendable in ME2. Hence, another working class quarian, not a freaking royalty with racial inferiority complex and a daddy issue that only piled up in ME2.

7. Drell. Uh... Since we've had one already. Feron qualifies for being Liara's buddy able to pilot spacecraft. Possible Shepard's wingman (along with Joker) for fighter space combat, if BioWare makes it (as they should).

8. Trumps out #2, but unlikely, I think. Aria T'Loak herself.

Note: New squadmates should have self-sufficient and strong enough personalities not to require an odd babysitting "loyalty" mission to get them to their full capacity. They also should not prefer some remote rat holes as their hiding places, in case Shepard needs a new most awesome crew he ever had, but be ready to join along the main plot railtrack.

Note 2. Of the old squadmates Liara, Ashley/Kaidan and Legion can join up in the retail version. Garrus, Grunt, Jack, Zaeed as free Day 1 DLC. Others - cameos (if alive) at important plotwise locations. Tali - Migrant fleet (pardoned if previously exiled). Miranda and/or Jacob - Citadel/Omega, working for TIM on a secret mission. Mordin at some STG research facility, leading collector/reaper study. Samara vid-mail: trains new Justicars back in Asari space, warns a renegade Shepard to watch himself / is happy with record of a paragon Shepard. Thane - dead, natural causes.

Note 3. BioWare should give a option to reject any recruitable character, and give an opportunity to fire (a Carnifex at) any of them afterwards.

[Pannamaslo]

Razorsedge820 wrote...

I want a batarian squadmate who is a real smart ass.

Seconded! But not as LI

[GenericPlayer2]

Kal'Reegar is not available since he is a minor character to begin with and can be killed in ME2 (you do have to wait for quite a bit for the Colossus to switch targets though). Its enough that people talk about dead team mates coming back in ME3, but minor characters that can die becoming team mates is pushing it.

Modifié par GenericPlayer2, 28 février 2010 - 06:57 .

[Master Smurf]

Well Therum (Liara) was a recruitment mission and Benezia could have been a loyalty mission rolled into plot progress.

That is the problem with ME2 - some of the loyalty missions should have advanced the plot, think only Tali and Legion did

Modifié par Master Smurf, 28 février 2010 - 07:25 .

[Zulu_DFA]

Master Smurf wrote...

Well Therum (Liara) was a recruitment mission and Benezia could have been a loyalty mission rolled into plot progress.

It's a retrospect. Now it looks like a "recruitment mission". you have to blast through some bad guys to meet a new character in the end and recruit him/her. At that time we didn't know the concept about "recruitment mission", right? And it didn't feel that way. It was like, "Uh, I wasted, your mom, and blew up you dig site, so why not, stay aboard, Ms T'Sony". But Liara's recognition of Ilos was essential to the story progression. While of all the characters with recruitment missions in ME2 only Mordin is essential. And you don't have to do his loyalty mission for that.

And the writers never meant that bringing Liara to Noveria is preferable. You get some boring extra dialogue if you have Liara on the squad when facing Benezia, but you get some funny extra dialogue if you come to rescue Liara after you killed Benezia.

So your point is hardly valid.

Modifié par Zulu_DFA, 28 février 2010 - 07:38 .

[RicadaSurprise]

i think it would have to depend on who died in the suicide mission, if half your sqaud died maybe 2, or 3 new squadmates. But if your like me and played over again just so no one would die, i think bioware ows us The entire ME1 squad, and most of the ME2 squad. (some ME2 characters will definetly be wiped, Like Samara, Probably Jack, and I hope to god this isnt true thane may die of his disease, which would suck bad.) But a big giant reunion would be best for a ending to a trilogy.

[Master Smurf]

So after going through a suicide mission and finding out that the galaxy can be wiped out - you just leave to do something else - OP your reasoning is flawed.
I can see Jack, Zaeed and Thane leaving, maybe Mordin (might be dead) but the others would most likely stay to fight the impending doom / regroup to fight the onslaught.

As for ME crew - Wrex is the leader of his race / Dead and Liara while she could return doesnt seem interested and Samara is much more experienced and powerful.
I'm sure Ashley / Kaidan will return and most likely Liara as well.

Edit: forgot about the crew can die concept (as I saved them all) so I guess its ME crew members and new ones for ME3 - then you will only see the alive crew at the end.
Alternately they can double the disc count and come up with some way to bring in some of your ME2 crew

Modifié par Master Smurf, 28 février 2010 - 08:10 .

[Skilled Seeker]

shinobi602 wrote...

No.

Modifié par Skilled Seeker, 28 février 2010 - 08:06 .

[Heimdall]

Sten says:



No.

[Zulu_DFA]

Lord Aesir wrote...

Sten says:

No.

Who is Sten? And who asked what he thinks?

Modifié par Zulu_DFA, 28 février 2010 - 08:43 .