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[SithLordExarKun]

Icinix wrote...

SithLordExarKun : How do you keep getting yourselves into these things? :-p

I don't know, i don't go out intentionally looking for trouble until someone tries to police me around.

Funny thing is i made one sly remark and someone like TJ has to get all apeshhit over it blowing the whole thing out of proportion when he could easily ignore my sly remarks

Godeshus wrote...

SithLordExarKun wrote...

Register
your game. THEN come and whine. Funny how its always people
that pirate the game that whine the loudest.

I underlined
the keyword. You made a statement, got challenged on it, and can't
defend yourself, so now you're denying it. 

This is the internet.
If you're going to make an aggressive post, you'd better expect to be
challenged.

-godeshus

Point taken.

Modifié par SithLordExarKun, 25 février 2010 - 08:12 .

[Costin_Razvan]

Just to say something regarding Jack, Samara, Jacob and Miranda and Thane not needing to wear a full body suit in space: They are ALL biotics, using mass effect barriers.

[Icinix]

Ahh harmony and peace. Thus it returns to the forums.

And all was well in the kingdom...

[SurfaceBeneath]

Your thread title does not inspire confidence.

[SithLordExarKun]

I just find the OPs original post to not make sense.



First off why does he want to criticize the supposed realism in a science fiction game?

There's aliens running around.

There's sound in space(in real life, sound can't exist in space)

There's FTL...

There's machines that come back every 50 000 years and wipe an entire galaxy to extinction.



I see no reason for him to criticize ME2's "lack of realism".



And then he brings up the "poorly designed" levels such as med packs being avalible in a geth station when this is simply a gameplay mechanic.



I remember his user name and recall him trolling people that preferred ME2 over ME1 such as accusing one member of being a homosexual because he preferred ME2.



Then of course his last thread which was similar to this where he attempted to bait people into starting a flame war before it got locked...

[Icinix]

It amuses me no end when someone claims about realism in a clearly non realist game / movie / book.

It may be a troll post it may not, regardless, the response is still the same.



On a side note : Ignoring trolls and depriving them of their natural food source is worse than agreeing with them. How would you feel if your local herd of trolls died out?

[Massadonious1]

This team is new?



Are there two Casey Hudsons working for BioWare?



I bet that must cause a conundrum in the staff kitchen.

[AtreiyaN7]

Ah, isn't the OP the fellow who complained that the scientific inaccuracies were due to BioWare dumbing things down for FPS gamers/console users and/or not caring in a separate thread? I see that he's trying this again - only leaving that part out and attempting to insult pretty much everyone instead. Hey, OP: if you have issues with the science, THEN STICK TO DISCUSSING THAT. What you keep doing seems to amount to trolling at this point, so stop making inane correlations, stop the name-calling, etc.

Again, I'm going to say that the BioWare devs aren't bloody scientists. Also, seeing as this is sci-fi, who gives a flying fig about the accuracy or lack thereof? I play the game because it's fun, and I'm capable of letting any science-related issues slide. It's what people call "suspension of disbelief." You don't see me whining about dilithium crystals, anti-matter, or the feasibility of warp drives in Star Trek. Actually, I remember that Michio Kaku was hosting that series about sci-fi science on the Science channel. He covered things like warp drives, teleporters, even Death Stars (of the Star Wars kind). Here's a thought: maybe you should go look up that show instead of trying to instigate trouble (I don't know else one accomplishes in lacing their post with insults - or was that "BioWare fanboi" thing meant in a friendly manner? *sarcasm*).

Modifié par AtreiyaN7, 25 février 2010 - 08:43 .

[Babymax]

Jonathan_Strange wrote...
Anyone else notice that this game's harshest critics can barely communicate in English?  Coincidence?

Anyone else notice that English isn't the first language of a majority of the people on this planet? Coincidence?

[Massadonious1]

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Modifié par Massadonious1, 25 février 2010 - 08:48 .

[MPaBkaTa123]

TJ and SithLordExarKun how about you stop arguing over nonsense and either go on topic or leave this thread to die like it deserves.

To the OP:

Everything you listed besides thermal clips was in ME1, also claiming that making a game an FPS (which it isn't) ruined the science is an illogical and overall plain stupid claim.Also it is fiction.

[AlanC9]

Look, you show up for a Nikitn thread, you pretty much have to expect this sort of thing. He's going to keep posting the same idea over and over in the hopes that it will be well received someday.



Yeah, I know that's the classic definition of insanity, but since he's not actually violating TOS, there's no reason to stop him.

[MPaBkaTa123]

AlanC9 wrote...

Look, you show up for a Nikitn thread, you pretty much have to expect this sort of thing. He's going to keep posting the same idea over and over in the hopes that it will be well received someday.

Yeah, I know that's the classic definition of insanity, but since he's not actually violating TOS, there's no reason to stop him.

No, but the topic should be locked none the less since he made it twice and simply changed names.

[Seraphael]

Nikitn wrote...

I am sorry if this thread offends ME2 fanboys/people who would rather die than play 2 hours of ME1 or any
other real RPG.

You're clearly clutching at straws with your criticism. There is certainly no clear line between "realistic" and "not realistic" in fiction, and often not even one between "correct" or "false". And of reasons I can't be arsed to say, ME2 is a real RPG. Arguably the best ever in fact.

Icinix wrote...

It amuses me no end when someone claims about realism in a clearly non realist game / movie / book.

SithLordExarKun wrote...

I just find the OPs original post to not make sense.

First off why does he want to criticize the supposed realism in a science fiction game?

Realism vs. fiction is somewhat of a contrived problem I think. Distinguish between what is implausible, improbable and impossible enough to impair our suspension of disbelief. The best science fiction doesn't challenge the suspension of disbelief unnecessarily.

But, of course, at the end of the day we always have Arthur C. Clarke's third law (any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic).

Modifié par Seraphael, 25 février 2010 - 09:24 .

[Merlanni]

Nitkin is right. ME2 is a mediocore sci fi shooter with a good story. Sorry fanboys.

One day, a reviewer might dare to review a bioware/EA game with a score of 80%, not adding the 10/15% hype to it.

Modifié par Merlanni, 25 février 2010 - 09:33 .

[Massadonious1]

Yay, time for another roundabout argument where people present opinions as facts.

[Icinix]

Merlanni wrote...

Nitkin is right. ME2 is a mediocore sci fi shooter with a good story. Sorry fanboys.

One day, a reviewer might dare to review a bioware/EA game with a score of 80%, not adding the 10/15% hype to it.

Or maybe the reviewers represent the majority who actually think the game is better than 80%

[MPaBkaTa123]

Merlanni wrote...

Nitkin is right. ME2 is a mediocore sci fi shooter with a good story. Sorry fanboys.

One day, a reviewer might dare to review a bioware/EA game with a score of 80%, not adding the 10/15% hype to it.

Mind stating why lest you be dismissed as a troll ?

[GnusmasTHX]

It's not science-fiction.



It's SCIENCE!-fiction.



Also all environments in ME2 have partial atmosphere. Don't be stupid.

[AngryFrozenWater]

SithLordExarKun wrote...

TJSolo wrote...

SithLordExarKun wrote...

Register your game. THEN come and whine. Funny how its always people that pirate the game that whine the loudest.

I bolded the bit you seem to have forgotten.
Your string of statements and your tone, it appears to be the conclusion you are alluding to if not directly stating it.

Still doesn't prove i accused him of pirating the game. Prove that.

I think i  understand, you couldn't prove that i actually accused him of being a pirate, so you then accuse and attack me because of something else which i, apparantly made a mistake and thought i never made that particular statement which is claiming that his statements aren't valid until he registers his game. You got me there, good job on that mr forum police.

Maybe you would like to know the real reason i think his opinions are invalid?

It is absolutely clear what you did. You can try to deny what you wrote, but that doesn't make it true. It only does one thing: It makes you appear to want to win arguments. No matter what.

Modifié par AngryFrozenWater, 25 février 2010 - 09:55 .

[Seraphael]

MPaBkaTa123 wrote...

Merlanni wrote...

Nitkin is right. ME2 is a mediocore sci fi shooter with a good story. Sorry fanboys.

One day, a reviewer might dare to review a bioware/EA game with a score of 80%, not adding the 10/15% hype to it.

Mind stating why lest you be dismissed as a troll ?

He can already be dismissed for one who clearly doesn't know what he's talking about.

Bioware's Jade Empire (PC) has a 81% score in metacritic. MDK2 Armageddon (PC) sits at 80%. Sonic Chronicles: The Dark Brotherhood (DS) has 74%. Mass Effect: Pinnacle Station (XBOX360) has 48%.

Modifié par Seraphael, 25 février 2010 - 09:55 .

[MPaBkaTa123]

Seraphael wrote...

MPaBkaTa123 wrote...

Merlanni wrote...

Nitkin is right. ME2 is a mediocore sci fi shooter with a good story. Sorry fanboys.

One day, a reviewer might dare to review a bioware/EA game with a score of 80%, not adding the 10/15% hype to it.

Mind stating why lest you be dismissed as a troll ?

He can already be dismissed for one who clearly doesn't know what he's talking about.

Bioware's Jade Empire (PC) has a 81% score in metacritic. MDK2 Armageddon (PC) sits at 80%. Sonic Chronicles: The Dark Brotherhood (DS) has 74%. Mass Effect: Pinnacle Station (XBOX360) has 48%.

Well Pinnacle Station sucked i think we can all agree on that what i am asking is why he believes so but as by troll tradition he has fled when people in this case you gave arguments against him.

[Icinix]

MPaBkaTa123 wrote...

Well Pinnacle Station sucked i think we can all agree on that what i am asking is why he believes so but as by troll tradition he has fled when people in this case you gave arguments against him.

 Pinnacle station didn't su---- 
oh wait. Yes it did.
My bad.

[Vena_86]

Science Fiction doesn't mean that its fantasy with magic and trolls. Sci Fi usually means some sort of believeable science working in the background. Would anyone have watched BSG if people could have taken walks in the vacuum with normal uniforms and breathing masks?

ME1 started with rather good and believeable science that made things relateable.

No protective suits in extreme environments is just the most rediculous thing I have ever seen in a game with a realistic theme. ME is not something abstract like Super Mario.

To some people (mostly those who only care for action and not for atmosphear or immersion) this might be nitpicking. But it is such "details" that make a game more than just a game, but rather an experience at another time in another place if treated carefully.

I hope I can ride a dragon through a sun and summon skelletons in ME3, because hey...its just Science Fiction...

Modifié par Vena_86, 25 février 2010 - 10:10 .

[Tekyu]

Dude, I get the urge to pick nits. I completely understand... within reason. I would recommend picking your battles as this a game. If you could really spend all your time wondering why you'd find med kits in Geth craft or whip out your yardstick to measure cosmic distances then I can see why you didn't enjoy it. Or much of anything.

Have you ever PLAYED a videogame?? I mean, if this stuff bugs you at all then Sonic the Hedgehog must drive you to near suicide, to say nothing of Mario. Considering we haven't exactly managed to set up camp sites on the moon, dropping by a culinary shop on a galactic space station definitely falls under fiction. If the story is strong enough, who cares? If you're actually popping in after your own Galaxy saving mission IRL then I apologize, but if you're just trying to kill fun for everyone else because you THINK you've punched holes in an awesome game then you're in for a very sad surprise...