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anyone agree that morrigan isnt the best character?(spoilers)


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nordrian

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I like her, just can't keep her in my team, she is a bit too much on the mean side for this playthrough :P

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Dagorgil

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You always have the option to have her learn healing spells....
My Morrigan knows heals.  At least enough to keep the characters alive enough to drink potions.

I'm in the Mage Circle now, though, and I hope I get to keep Wynn.  She has amazing heals.

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revcasey

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You can definitely keep Wynne. And Wynne>>>>Morrigan.

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Lord Badmagic

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Personally I'm not very fussed with her abilities or personality on my current playthroughs, get the impression lots of young men out there will just love her though.

Her personality will maybe suit better when I make my own avatars of a more morally dubious disposition for different playthroughs.

With all that said, I don't know her full story yet, maybe its not as clichéd as it first appears, wont hold my breath though.

Modifié par Lord Badmagic, 07 novembre 2009 - 02:41 .


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I think it difficult to have Morrigan together with other companions if you wan´t to be on her good side.

I like her comments though, she and Alistair have some interesting conversations.

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This would be better in the spoiler forum where you can discuss it without spoiling the game.

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insanelobster wrote...

she doesnt really have much healing capabilities and doesnt do much damage though i did auto level up with her but i did with everyone else aswell


That's your problem there, your autoleveling her.

Morrigan is one of the, if not the premier magic caster as far as damage goes when leveled right.

I just wish Bioware would've given us a Tome of repurpose or something.

Damned pre-leveling is horrid.

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KnightDeDraco

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on a hotness scale? yes she is totally the best character. On an effective, and good comrade scale? I'm voting for Allistiar.

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She is without a doubt the sexiest character. I use her all the time, and her shapeshifting abilities. They can fit the situation, but I suppose not everyone bothers with it/doesn't like it.

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No, I don't think that Morrigan is the best character, at first I liked her but the more I have her with me and the less I can stand her.

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I don't think she's the best character, Oghren and Alistar tie for best in my book, but I do think she's more interesting then Wynee.



My BIG problem w/ her is her starting spells, they were all so spread out, and all focused on single enemies, that I couldn't help but feel she had allot of wasted talent right off the bat (even more so considering shes a shape-shifter.) But I'll be able to make her a spirit healer soon, so I have a more interesting character then Wynne providing that needed role.



She does have some of the BEST companion banter though, and for some reason, I really love the fact she has her own far off tent at the campsite, nice touch bioware!

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A thread with (spoilers) in its title in a forum with (NO SPOILERS ALLOWED) in its title. *boggles*

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But I love listening to Shale calling her "swamp witch" lol

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She's designed to be a hybrid Nuke/CC character and she was effective enough to be my only mage on my playthrough. Cone of Cold, Blizzard, Sleep and Waking Nightmare are all godly. Her damage is still quite good if you max out her +cold damage%. I preferred her to Wynne by far, Wynne's only great starting spell is Revive IMO, most of the rest is trash.

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The only real problem I have with Morrigan is that shape shifting in general is pretty useless so her specialization is put to naught. In my games, I pump her stats at a ratio of 2 magic 1 will power. I have her grab force field on her first level and then proceed to grab cone of cold + Sleep + Waking nightmare + Affliction Hex + Misdirection Hex. This gives her some good debuffs along with 3 very solid crowd control skills and 1 large damage nuke (nightmare combo). Morrigan is only problematic if you want to turn her into a pure damage build since her initial spell choices tend to be more geared towards debuffs. As long as you capitalize on her already existing lines in entropy and cold however, it works out very well.



Pretty much almost all your party members have horrible auto-level options; even Wynne. Just make sure that you get all your core members at an early level and you should be able to avoid these problems. Bioware really needs to implement some sort of skill reset process in the game.

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McKvechkin

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It may just be the way I play, or how I leveled her up, but I find Morrigan to be quite powerful. As a matter of fact, when a fight starts, I find myself telling all four characters to attack the same target, then I switch to Morrigan and go into her routine of: Affliction Hex, Sleep, Waking Nightmare, all the while directing the other 3 (usually PC, Allistair and Shale/Lelianna/Ohgren) to move from target to target in unison. I also grabbed the single heal early for Morrigan, which lets me keep party members alive enough to use poultices. She also keeps up the cold weapons buff ( forget the name) so the entire party is doing cold damage which plays well with the Affliction hex.



In rare cases where Morrigan dies quickly, I notice the fights can take a lot longer to complete, and sometimes even result in party wipe. Morrigan is the driving force behind nearly every battle for me, but that's likely just me playstyle.



PS - Morrigan's Blizzard and Shale's Earthen Grasp + Rock Barrage are an excellent combo. I'd imagine Earthquake would play well with Blizzard as well. I love the AOE spells in this game but it's hard to get them off without injuring your party members, that realism is cool, but it makes using the powers that much more difficult. Good thing I like challenges!

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GhoXen wrote...

A thread with (spoilers) in its title in a forum with (NO SPOILERS ALLOWED) in its title. *boggles*


My thoughts exactly when I saw the topic.

Then again, the mods don't seem to care or enforce the rules because it happens all the time.

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robertthebard

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Auto-leveling is bad. If it followed the preconceptions you set out for Alistair, for example, and finished trees that you started, it might be better, but I find it's much better to micromanage even the NPC leveling. This way, I know exactly what I'm getting out of a character.



Considering the average rank of enemies when you first get Morrigan, her spell selection, while not what I would have done, isn't totally abysmal. She's fairly effective, even if she ends up in a one on one situation. The biggest problem I can see, especially if using autolevel, is spell selection after she's in the party. Decide what role/roles you want her to fill, and skill her accordingly. Even with just the one heal in the Creation School, and she can effectively keep the tanker alive.



Overall, in my first runthrough, I was more disappointed with Wynne, but I waited to do the mage tower until just before Orzammar, and the autoleveling job done by the game to catch her up was terrible.

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Savagus wrote...

I think it difficult to have Morrigan together with other companions if you wan´t to be on her good side.
I like her comments though, she and Alistair have some interesting conversations.


have her, sten, and alistair. if you have a good persuasion, sten and alistair can usually be convinced to not hate you when you do things. or they wont care too much. :P

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No, I don't think that Morrigan is the best character, at first I liked her but the more I have her with me and the less I can stand her.




Yeah, that's what happened to me, too.



And out of curiosity, what is it about her that some find to be so shmexy? Is it just the shirt? Because I find her to be, er, somewhat boyish in both face and figure. *Runs*

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Tianwyn wrote...


No, I don't think that Morrigan is the best character, at first I liked her but the more I have her with me and the less I can stand her.


Yeah, that's what happened to me, too.

And out of curiosity, what is it about her that some find to be so shmexy? Is it just the shirt? Because I find her to be, er, somewhat boyish in both face and figure. *Runs*


I can answer this in two words:  Claudia Black.

There are, of course the memorable moments, such as when she finds out she's joining you.  "Such a shame...What???"  Even typing it out makes me see the cutscene, and laugh.

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orpheus333

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Morrigan is no more and no less than the product of her upbringing. Don't blame her blame Flemeth.

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I like her and always have her in my party. I keep her as dps with the basic healing abilities.

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bobtheworm

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I think the trick to Morriigan is not to make her an Elementalist. She is not meant for those spells. Same goes for Wynne, who is meant to be the main healer in your party.

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andyr1986 wrote...

Morrigan is no more and no less than the product of her upbringing. Don't blame her blame Flemeth.


I blame her and Flemeth.