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[Fredvdp]

SithLordExarKun wrote...

This is the third thread he created to bait people into flaming him.

And it works. I always see these threads in 'recent activity' because you keep replying. try harder not to feed the troll.

[lastpatriot]

Nikitn wrote...

Anyway is it true that Bioware sacked majority of the writers before ME2..? I heard this rumour.

Folks, this is what happens when you sniff "White -Out."  It clearly makes you say stupid things.

[Duduris]

Nikitn wrote...

Considering how basic the story has become (compared to last time) and the fact that shooting is 90% of the game.

But then again you don't need to have a logical story, have a good lore (like the 1 created in ME1) or follow established laws of physics to attract the shooter crowd, who doesn't care about anything but shooting.

For me, I wanted a good RPG sequel who builds (not destroys) on lore from the original, as well as making a good and fresh story.

What I got was Mass Effect 2.. Lame <_<

You again?So, for how long are you going to make the same topic again again?
For 3 days now the only thing I read on the forums is you bs threads!

[Pedro Costa]

I remember the days when trolls were actually creative and entertaining...

[MerinTB]

Nikitn wrote...

Anyway is it true that Bioware sacked majority of the writers before ME2..? I heard this rumour.

Fail.

Drew, lead writer on ME1, went off to work on TOR.  That's about the only major change.  He still had a hand in the story of ME2 (and I'm sure ME3 for that matter.)

[MPaBkaTa123]

To the OP:
Stop making these topics! You are known as a troll people will flame you because what you write is incoherent poorly written and you give no arguments whatsoever for what you say.
To the Posters:
I liked the troll picture and we all myself included bit the troll hook.

[Ricardoy]

Poor nikitn :/



To start i dont know if you have the game at all since well you havent registered it yet.Also if you didnt like the game thats ok..but personally i enjoy it..and im not saying that is awesome or the best game of the world or in your case the failed game.Other thing you are already talking like you know how ME3 will be..and saying you will see your partners that die in the suicide mission in ME3..interesting..do you have a magic ball or something?..because maybe im not sure if you remember in me1 if for example kaidan die..you dont see him alive in me2.My english is bad i know..

[AtreiyaN7]

This proves it. This is the THIRD time the OP has tried this ridiculous kind of crap. First it was BioWare dumbed the science down in ME2 because of FPS players/BioWare didn't care. Then a second thread about the same thing, oh, and now THIS. He actually tried to make the same point in the second thread somewhere along the way (about the writing staff), and then someone shot him down.



STOP FEEDING THE TROLL!

[Crackseed]

PilotJoe wrote...

For the love of all things Mass Effect related, please bring back Drew Karpyshyn. I'm sure Mac is a great guy, but he's no novelist. The way story elements in Mass Effect 1 ebbed and flowed, intertwining characters in meaningful ways right up to the finale was pure storytelling magic.



Mass Effect 2's attempts at the same were the ham-fisted attempts with all the subtlety of a first year creative writing class. Even the most fawning reviews of ME2 acknowledge that the story wasn't nearly as satisfying or compelling. I can grudgingly accept gameplay changes that don't suit me, but skimping on story is unacceptable for a Bioware game.



Most fans chalk this up to the fact that the second game/movie/novel in a trilogy is always hard to write, and while they may be correct, I think it's obvious that Mac can't quite fill the lead writer shoes that were left for him. This doesn't bode well for the most important game, # 3. I have the feeling that all those making apologies for Bioware's lackluster story are going to be horribly disappointed when ME3 rolls out without even the collaboration of Drew as co-lead writer, and Mac is left to his own devices. Just my opinion.

Just my opinion but, you're definitely in the minority - ME2's story was fantastic in the context it was designed for. I see no major problems. Every epic sci-fi has some things you can nitpick, but I respectfully think you're way off the mark

[Seanylegit]

I seriously don't understand what's wrong with the story of ME2. Now I granted I wasn't a codex nerd in either games... **** I don't know if I read more than 2 or 3; I found ME2 to be just as enjoyable as the first game, and actually moreso. The only thing related to story that I thought was poorly executed was how the entire team leaves the Normandy before the Collectors buttream it. That was a tad bit lazy, but nothing else bothered me.

Modifié par Seanylegit, 25 février 2010 - 06:57 .

[HypesterHypester]

LF1M_Tank wrote...



This is his 3rd thread on the topic heh. At least I get the opportunity to use...

*Watches the Paragon trigger go by unpressed.*







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I like the ME2 story a LOT more than I like the ME1 story.

crackseed wrote...



Just my opinion but, you're definitely in the minority - ME2's story was fantastic in the context it was designed for. I see no major problems. Every epic sci-fi has some things you can nitpick, but I respectfully think you're way off the mark

Enthusiastic Agreement: I liked ME2's story better overall, and have yet to see any way in which it tramples on ME1.

[Nikitn]

PilotJoe wrote...

For the love of all things Mass Effect related, please bring back Drew Karpyshyn. I'm sure Mac is a great guy, but he's no novelist. The way story elements in Mass Effect 1 ebbed and flowed, intertwining characters in meaningful ways right up to the finale was pure storytelling magic.



Mass Effect 2's attempts at the same were the ham-fisted attempts with all the subtlety of a first year creative writing class. Even the most fawning reviews of ME2 acknowledge that the story wasn't nearly as satisfying or compelling. I can grudgingly accept gameplay changes that don't suit me, but skimping on story is unacceptable for a Bioware game.



Most fans chalk this up to the fact that the second game/movie/novel in a trilogy is always hard to write, and while they may be correct, I think it's obvious that Mac can't quite fill the lead writer shoes that were left for him. This doesn't bode well for the most important game, # 3. I have the feeling that all those making apologies for Bioware's lackluster story are going to be horribly disappointed when ME3 rolls out without even the collaboration of Drew as co-lead writer, and Mac is left to his own devices. Just my opinion.

i agree

[Obadiah]

I just want to say that showing up to an epic space battle involving massive starships in a busted truck (ME1) is way more suicidal than attacking the collector home base with a tricked out rebuilt Normandy.

[Schneidend]

PilotJoe wrote...

To crackseed:

I quote the following line from the first mass effect game from Wrex: "Have you ever seen a Krogan scientist?"

Plot point for ME2 = KROGAN SCIENTIST

It appears that internal consistency is a class these writers missed. It's jarring, unbelievable, and annoying

There was a krogan scientist in the cloning facility on Virmire, genius.

Plot point for ME1 = KROGAN SCIENTIST

Try again later. Maybe you'll find a parallel dimension where ME2 isn't amazing.

[ThePatriot101]

That's it.



Everyone message this guy and blast him on his trolling on the forums.

[ThePatriot101]

Opinion with no option of discussion on a discussion thread is hot air especially if repeated multiple times.



Something we can all do without.

[ThePatriot101]

PilotJoe wrote...

I'm trying to discuss with him, you should too. Even if we disagree on fundamental issues, we probably agree on others, and despite the inflammatory thread title, it was probably just meant to spur discussion/get attention. If you're on this thread, odds are that you LIKE these games, so that's common ground to start with.

He's obviously venting.  If he checked he'd know that the writing staff increased between ME1 and ME2 and that would answer his question (this was brought up in the OTHER thread he started).

[Nikitn]

Yeah I'm just trying 2 start a discussion. No need 2 throw flames fails at me.

And no, they removed the lead writer. The story was dumbed down.

Modifié par Nikitn, 25 février 2010 - 07:19 .

[ThePatriot101]

How about showing some class when you start these things?

Modifié par ThePatriot101, 25 février 2010 - 07:20 .

[Nikitn]

Why show class or intelligence? This is the Mass effect general discussions forum.Since ME2, main population is made up of 14 year olds and younger.

Modifié par Nikitn, 25 février 2010 - 07:22 .