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[LUCYM0N0]

I gotta say, while I've been playing paragon, my girlfriend has been playing the game on Renegade and it seems like all the greatest, most badass, most hilarious things you can do in this game are Renegade options.

Examples (Spoilerish):

On the Citadel, you can punch out the ****y reporter who tries to smear you.  I'm not sure what happens if you punched her out in the first game, but if you do it in the second game and not in the first, Shepard remarks about how "I shoulda done that the first time."

On Mordin's loyalty mission, you get an option to shoot the fuel tanks below the Krogan while he's in the middle of his badguy speech.  "You talk too much!"  He says something about how humans can't even shoot straight, only seconds before bursting into flames and screaming (very uncharacteristic for a Krogan).

[McBeath]

*Some Spoilers below*



You don't have to play the game full paragon.... I have played through 4 times as a paragon, each time I've got a full paragon bar, but also completed many of the renegade actions, like the above mentioned krogan. I also hit the prisoner in Thanes mission, just enough that his lawyer comes in... then I tell them I'm a spectre. I always get a laugh at that.



I can't imagine playing it only one way or the other. I mean, even my good Shepard has a bad day sometimes. Plus, one of the romance dialog options with Miranda involves some renegade teasing of her, much better than the paragon one.

[Atmosfear3]

Renegade is definitely the most fun. Some of the responses are just straight badass

[Miths]

I tend to pick the choices that come natural to me. That means I'm very unlikely to act like a jerk or threaten civilians (which some of the renegade options boil down to), but I'm not against playing rough with enemies or other characters who seem intent on trying to p*** me off.

[Unwise Wisdom]

While renegade is usually more fun, I find paragon to be more rewarding, most of the time.

[Kid_SixXx]

Paragon interrupts are also badass. Shepard pretty much daring the C-Sec officer to arrest him at the conclusion of the "Scene of the Crime" side mission ruled and punching Zaeed in the face during his loyalty mission for acting like a douchebag and needlessly endangering the refinery workers was also rather satisfying.

Shepard running down the list of the ships destroyed and lives lost during the repeat interview with the reporter and reminding her why fighting the good fight was so important was downright heartenting. Nothing wrong with displaying a little dignity sometimes.

Modifié par Kid_SixXx, 25 février 2010 - 06:02 .

[Miths]

I was also pleasantly surprised by the paragon interrupts during Zhaeed's loyalty mission during my second play through. I actually thought they were much cooler than what I remember from my first play through where I deliberately leaned a bit more heavily towards renegade than I would normally do.



I seem to recall people saying FemShep (who I'm always picking) does a better job than MaleShep with paragon dialogue though?

[Darth Drago]

There are some cool variations on choosing paragon as well as renegade, that’s worth a replay in each. However I did find a few cases where doing the renegade choice seemed just evil Like Zaeed’s loyalty mission as well as a moment in Jacob’s (where you talk to the first person). I have pretty much stayed loyal in my choice of paragon/renegade through the game but I’ll have to give it a try next time with mixing it up a bit. It is odd that you seem to get some renegade points from doing good deeds though.

It would have been better I think if they had both paragon/renegade interrupts in most cases they were used. Like the “Scene of the Crime” mentioned above, a renegade interrupt could have been added after the paragon one is used with (using Wrex’s dialog from ME1) Sheppard and friends pulling guns and telling the C-Sec guard “ I want you to try”. As much as I liked the interrupt system I felt it was underused and in most cases you knew what was going to happen if you chose it.

[FataliTensei]

For the most part I prefer Paragon, Renegade is like some strange cross between douchebag and sociopath >_<

[Lord Coake]

I prefer to mix things up, mostly.  By and large, Vanessa Shepard is going full paragon, but not pure paragon.  The "alignments" aren't so muc good and evil as a reflection of which way you character leans.

I portray Van as a genuinely good, forgiving and merciful person...but don't make the mistake of thinking she can't put boot to ass if it gets down to it.

classic points: "You're working too hard." *stab*  Miranda's loyalty quest another one.  Renegade during the initial attack, but the paragon choice during the confrontation.  Also encouraged Mir to talk.

"Good" people sometimes have to do bad things to get things done right with as little collateral damage as possible.  "Bad" people generally don't give a damn.

[sonsonthebia07]

FataliTensei wrote...

For the most part I prefer Paragon, Renegade is like some strange cross between douchebag and sociopath >_<

Leaning towards complete douchebag.

I am unlike a lot of people in that I always go to the extreme as either full Renegade or Paragon, despite the actual choices in-game. I will admit that the Renegade options are generally more amusing.

Modifié par sonsonthebia07, 25 février 2010 - 09:06 .

[Haasth]

I've never really liked renegade in either of the two games. Most of the choices are just pointless and make me cry out 'Why the hell?!'. Of course I haven't actually done a renegade run yet in Mass Effect 2... but I don't feel like it much either.

[grimreaper88]

Its more fun to be the badass than the good guy.

[GenericPlayer2]

The lesson I learned is that Renegade is fun so long as you don't kill people off. I still prefer Renegade but the Paragons get more continuity 'easter eggs' in the next game.

1. Rachni Queen: Ok so you get a message from her in ME2, not a big deal but leaves me wondering if I will regret killing her in ME3

2. Gianna Parasini: If you help her in ME1 you see her in ME2 and get a 50XP sidequest. If you betray her to Administrator Analious (renegade option) all you get is an e-mail from him, and no sidequest

Those are just 2 examples. I sincerely hope that us Renegades in ME3 get to enjoy some unique experiences if we keep Pitne For out of jail, handed over evidence about Ish to Anto, and fragmented the Migrant fleet . But I am not holding my breath.

The other annoying thing is that in ME2 a full Renegade bar does not mean all red options are unlocked, but playing as a Paragon I never had any trouble unlocking blue options. Some balancing needed.

Modifié par GenericPlayer2, 25 février 2010 - 10:50 .

[Khayness]

Meeting with Conrad, keeping your guns on the Purgatory, "I hope you can fly." and the Shortest Interrogation in History is what makes Renegade worth playing!

[Macq Daddy]

Kid_SixXx wrote...

Paragon interrupts are also badass. Shepard pretty much daring the C-Sec officer to arrest him at the conclusion of the "Scene of the Crime" side mission ruled and punching Zaeed in the face during his loyalty mission for acting like a douchebag and needlessly endangering the refinery workers was also rather satisfying.

Shepard running down the list of the ships destroyed and lives lost during the repeat interview with the reporter and reminding her why fighting the good fight was so important was downright heartenting. Nothing wrong with displaying a little dignity sometimes.

This.

If you're a fan of characters like Captain America or Jean-Luc Picard or Captain John Sheridan of Babylon 5 (who I strongly suspect is a major influence on Shepard as a character), then Paragon Shepard is totally and completely awesome.

Renegade Shepard is fun though, don't get me wrong.  If Paragon Shepard is "Captain America in Space" then Renegade Shepard is more like "The Punisher in Space."

Modifié par Macq Daddy, 25 février 2010 - 11:48 .

[Max Brodie]

I'm a big fan of the renegade. Paragon is just too goody-goody for me. Don't get me wrong, I have just as many paragons as renegades across both games, but I have much more fun playing the renegades.

[Splinter Cell 108]

To many people it might seem like that. I think this was the reason that Shepard was always a renegade during the trailers. The kinds of things that renegades do attract more people to the because they think throwing mercenaries off of towers and punching people is fun. I don't find it fun and most times I go paragon.

[xxSgt_Reed_24xx]

renegade >>>>>> paragon.



enough said.

[Octorox]

 I do Paragon with the occasional dash of witty Renegade dialogue when people are just total jerkwads. I like to play it like Kirk: high ideals but not afraid to abuse incompetent higher ups once in a while.

[sonsonthebia07]

GenericPlayer2 wrote...

The lesson I learned is that Renegade is fun so long as you don't kill people off. I still prefer Renegade but the Paragons get more continuity 'easter eggs' in the next game.

1. Rachni Queen: Ok so you get a message from her in ME2, not a big deal but leaves me wondering if I will regret killing her in ME3

2. Gianna Parasini: If you help her in ME1 you see her in ME2 and get a 50XP sidequest. If you betray her to Administrator Analious (renegade option) all you get is an e-mail from him, and no sidequest

Those are just 2 examples. I sincerely hope that us Renegades in ME3 get to enjoy some unique experiences if we keep Pitne For out of jail, handed over evidence about Ish to Anto, and fragmented the Migrant fleet . But I am not holding my breath.

The other annoying thing is that in ME2 a full Renegade bar does not mean all red options are unlocked, but playing as a Paragon I never had any trouble unlocking blue options. Some balancing needed.

*spoilers? just in case*

If you completely don't help her and give the info to Lorik in the first game (I would consider this a renegade option as well), she also returns in the second and is a bit more pissy. It is pretty funny when you tell the Asari about her presence on that miniquest.

[GenericPlayer2]

It just seems strange to me that things like blackmailing Anto and saying things like "a bullet in the head solves everything" are available options, but suggesting that you put the squeeze on some construction workers is making Shep look like "a petty thug".

[ian528]

If you like being bad ass in that way. For one I like the paragon actions. In the citadel, when the reporter approaches you to confront you and do another hack job interview the renegade option is to hit her. I found going for the paragon option was much better because you make her look like a jackass and have her saying that she has been bull rushed on her own show. That was vastly more satisfying for me.

[GenericPlayer2]

sonsonthebia07 wrote...
If you completely don't help her and give the info to Lorik in the first game (I would consider this a renegade option as well), she also returns in the second and is a bit more pissy. It is pretty funny when you tell the Asari about her presence on that miniquest.

Ok it was a long time ago so my memory may not have this right. I gave the info to the Adminstrator and he called Parasini into his office, and then I never saw her again, I was pretty sure he killed her or had her killed. When I imported that into ME2, I got a thank you e-mail from him and no sign of Parasini.