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What's with the lasers? Isn't this Mass Effect?


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WrexKroganKing wrote...

Asinine responses for an asinine question.


Anyone else hear this in the Turian Councilor's voice?

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trigger2kill1

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Why risk going through the codex he might learn something, like all about the masseffect universe.

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except your all wrong lasers are in ME just about every warship has them!

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JnEricsonx wrote...

Gibbs was Shepard before there was a Shepard. :)


lol Thanks...Now every time I watch NCIS and see Matt Harmon (Gibbs) Im not going to be able to picture him in anything but N7 Armor.  Speaking of which, someone who is good with the face editor needs to get on that and post it on the ME2 face generator site....Matt Harmon, make it so.

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Dear SuperVaderMan.
Don't worry about asinine responses. Even though a 'RTFM' is in place, some people simply do not have the courtesy to say that in a tactical way. You may also notice there are a few who do. Don't let 'em get to you, It's the Eftard theory at work:

forum . (normal person + anonymity) / (common sense - intelligence) = Eftard^2

(edited to replace **** with Eftard.. silly profanity filters.)

Modifié par Jazharah, 25 février 2010 - 06:36 .


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IntrepidProdigy

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Energy weapons (i.e. lasers) are NOT sci-fi. Youtube T.H.E.L. (). The military is actually talking about using lasers on the battlefield by 2016. Lasers also aren't the only type of energy weapon the military has been working on. The are getting closer to making microwave technology and plasma more practical (also youtube "that's impossible: energy weapons" which is a history channel documentary on the subject). So if anything, the Mass Effect universe has quite a bit of catching up to do.

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Aradace wrote...

JnEricsonx wrote...

Gibbs was Shepard before there was a Shepard. :)


lol Thanks...Now every time I watch NCIS and see Mark Harmon (Gibbs) Im not going to be able to picture him in anything but N7 Armor.  Speaking of which, someone who is good with the face editor needs to get on that and post it on the ME2 face generator site....Mark Harmon, make it so.

Corrected the name for ya, it's Mark Harmon

Dang it, now I won't be able to watch NCIS without thinking of him wearing it.

Hmm, Jethro 'Gibbs' Shepherd. Renegade or Paragon or a mix?

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trigger2kill1 wrote...

Why risk going through the codex he might learn something, like all about the masseffect universe.

Because missing a single codex entry in a completely optional "extra knowledge" thing, which usually only recorded things that were already explained to us by NPCs in ME1, suddenly makes me a complete n00b in everything about the Mass Effect universe... yep

An easy-to-make mistake on my part that could've easily been put to rest with a simple "they fire molten metal, not lasers"... instead everyone and their mother have to whip out their e-peens

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Aradace wrote...

JnEricsonx wrote...

Gibbs was Shepard before there was a Shepard. :)


lol Thanks...Now every time I watch NCIS and see Matt Harmon (Gibbs) Im not going to be able to picture him in anything but N7 Armor.  Speaking of which, someone who is good with the face editor needs to get on that and post it on the ME2 face generator site....Matt Harmon, make it so.


Mark Harmen! and yes this needs to be done.  Gibbs is easily my favorite tv cop ever, followed closely by horatio cane.  i tried and failed miserably, i suck at teh facesPosted Image

gah! got ninja'd

Modifié par Lambu1, 25 février 2010 - 06:40 .


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Jazharah wrote...

*snip*

Noted

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Lambu1 wrote...

Aradace wrote...

JnEricsonx wrote...

Gibbs was Shepard before there was a Shepard. :)


lol Thanks...Now every time I watch NCIS and see Matt Harmon (Gibbs) Im not going to be able to picture him in anything but N7 Armor.  Speaking of which, someone who is good with the face editor needs to get on that and post it on the ME2 face generator site....Matt Harmon, make it so.


Mark Harmen! and yes this needs to be done.  Gibbs is easily my favorite tv cop ever, followed closely by horatio cane.  i tried and failed miserably, i suck at teh facesPosted Image

gah! got ninja'd


Dammit!!! I meant to say Mark lol....Thanks for the correction.  *Gibbs smacks self* Was thinking Matthew Foxx at the same time and got the names crossed

Modifié par Aradace, 25 février 2010 - 06:44 .


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lost lupus wrote...

except your all wrong lasers are in ME just about every warship has them!


True.  Those are very short-range point-defense systems though.  And we don't see them in action that I recall.

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shinobi602 wrote...

That's the slowest light I've ever seen considering light moves at 186,000 miles per second.

We shouldn't even be able to see the beam of molten metal.


Why not?  It'll emit light won't it? Also, if you look at the ME1 ending, it's hardly as bad as all that.  The jets appear quite abrubtly, and also seem to leave a fading afterimage. It's not super-accurate, but that can just be chalked up to the fact that it's supposed to be visually interesting and the fact it's a narrative.  Ships exploding for no apparent reason is, I suppose, kind of interesting, but also pretty opaque storytelling wise.  As for the Collector weapon, I haven't a clue what it's really supposed to be.  Particle beam sounds like matter to me though.  The heavy weapon says "radiation", so I'm thinking we're talking charged particles, and they emit light.  If it were a beam firing light particles (i.e., photons), then they'd have just called it the "Collector laser".  We also have no idea how fast the beam is supposedly traveling. Well, not beyond "pretty damn fast".

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Gill Kaiser wrote...

The Collector particle beam was focused radiation, I believe.

Heh.  You realize you just defined a laser (in a way), right?  What do you think a laser IS?  Focused light radiation.

Modifié par Koyasha, 25 février 2010 - 06:48 .


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SuperVaderMan wrote...

trigger2kill1 wrote...

Why risk going through the codex he might learn something, like all about the masseffect universe.

Because missing a single codex entry in a completely optional "extra knowledge" thing, which usually only recorded things that were already explained to us by NPCs in ME1, suddenly makes me a complete n00b in everything about the Mass Effect universe... yep

An easy-to-make mistake on my part that could've easily been put to rest with a simple "they fire molten metal, not lasers"... instead everyone and their mother have to whip out their e-peens

There is a hole in your theory big enough to drive an aircraft carrier through.

They give a pretty good explaination of the "masseffect" when you get the thanix canon.

Understood, and well said about the esoteric entries in the codex but the thanix is mentioned in at least 2 if not 3 places.

Let us not forget the nearly endless places on the interweb that such information is available ad-infinitum.


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SuperVaderMan wrote...

trigger2kill1 wrote...

Why risk going through the codex he might learn something, like all about the masseffect universe.

Because missing a single codex entry in a completely optional "extra knowledge" thing, which usually only recorded things that were already explained to us by NPCs in ME1, suddenly makes me a complete n00b in everything about the Mass Effect universe... yep

An easy-to-make mistake on my part that could've easily been put to rest with a simple "they fire molten metal, not lasers"... instead everyone and their mother have to whip out their e-peens


It does make you a bit of a noob actually. "Read the codex" should be the first thing you do whenever you think something in the game doesn't make sense or isn't adequately explained.

This thread is kind of like asking someone to Google something for you. You can do it yourself just as easily. Hence the hostile response.

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IntrepidProdigy wrote...

Energy weapons (i.e. lasers) are NOT sci-fi. .


They are if they're depicted as near-universally practical, human-portable, common, or combinations of the three. Also, you mention plasma weapons: that's not energy.  Plasma is matter.  

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Koyasha wrote...

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The Collector particle beam was focused radiation, I believe.

Heh.  You realize you just defined a laser (in a way), right?  What do you think a laser IS?  Focused light radiation.

Aye. However, considering its name, I assumed the Collector weapon was a beam of light-emitting radioactive particles, not photons.

Modifié par Gill Kaiser, 25 février 2010 - 06:57 .


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You should have read the codex first. Then posted on the forums if you were still unsure. The negative comments would have been lessened I think.

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didymos1120

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Koyasha wrote...

Gill Kaiser wrote...

The Collector particle beam was focused radiation, I believe.

Heh.  You realize you just defined a laser (in a way), right?  What do you think a laser IS?  Focused light radiation.


Light: not the only form of radiation.  If it were a laser, I'm sure it would have been called that.  I'm also pretty sure that Gill didn't mean light.

ETA: Nevermind. I see I was right about Gill.

Modifié par didymos1120, 25 février 2010 - 06:56 .


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didymos1120 wrote...

IntrepidProdigy wrote...

Energy weapons (i.e. lasers) are NOT sci-fi. .


They are if they're depicted as near-universally practical, human-portable, common, or combinations of the three. Also, you mention plasma weapons: that's not energy.  Plasma is matter.  

Look up the T.H.E.L., and "That's Impossible: Energy Weapons" on youtube like I said when you get the chance. Also, the technology behind lethal laser technology is relatively cheap in relation with the cost of current weapons.

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Koyasha wrote...

Gill Kaiser wrote...

The Collector particle beam was focused radiation, I believe.

Heh.  You realize you just defined a laser (in a way), right?  What do you think a laser IS?  Focused light radiation.


Light Amplication by Stimulated Emission of Radiation.  yep,  though i'm sure there is more to a collector beam then that

gah! ninja'd againPosted Image

Modifié par Lambu1, 25 février 2010 - 07:00 .


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IntrepidProdigy wrote...
Look up the T.H.E.L., and "That's Impossible: Energy Weapons" on youtube like I said when you get the chance. Also, the technology behind lethal laser technology is relatively cheap in relation with the cost of current weapons.


I know what we have now (and yeah, that's a cool vid. No argument there).  They aren't practical, though.  Not yet, and certainly are not going to be ubiquitous for a long time.  Nor portable (by which I mean, not requiring a giant backpack of power cells or the like).  As usually depicted, DEWs are still firmly science fiction.

Modifié par didymos1120, 25 février 2010 - 07:05 .


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SuperVaderMan wrote...

trigger2kill1 wrote...

Why risk going through the codex he might learn something, like all about the masseffect universe.

Because missing a single codex entry in a completely optional "extra knowledge" thing, which usually only recorded things that were already explained to us by NPCs in ME1, suddenly makes me a complete n00b in everything about the Mass Effect universe... yep

An easy-to-make mistake on my part that could've easily been put to rest with a simple "they fire molten metal, not lasers"... instead everyone and their mother have to whip out their e-peens


It is the equal to telling someone to look up a spelling in the dictionary.  Or as the saying goes "You can give a man a fish and he'll eat for a day or you can teach him to fish and he'll feed himself for life."  I think if you had said I couldn't find this in the codex first people would have responded differently then again maybe not.  

But as for it being optional, it is unless you want to know things about the universe.  You cannot ask a question or make a comment about the ME universe and say that the codex is optional.  That is liking trying to speak to someone and saying knowing their language is optional.  :o

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SuperVaderMan wrote...

Alright alright, I've read the damn codex

Would've been nicer to get a straight answer instead of mostly asinine responses, but whatever


For future reference, if you don't want asinine responses, maybe you should try not asking the question in an asinine sort of way.

Just a thought.