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What's with the lasers? Isn't this Mass Effect?


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didymos1120 wrote...

I know what we have now (and yeah, that's a cool vid. No argument there).  They aren't practical, though.  Not yet, and certainly are not going to be ubiquitous for a long time.  Nor portable (by which I mean, not requiring a giant backpack of power cells or the like).  As usually depicted, DEWs are still firmly science fiction.

If by DEW you mean dark energy weapons (I apologize if that's not what you meant), then obviously yes that is sci-fi (as far as we know, lol). The topic, however has more to do with high-energy lasers, which are 'planned' to hit the battlefield by 2016 with talks of that THEL techology being mounted on ships, planes/jets, and other mobile vehicles. Not only that, but a laser with the energy of a star(s) has already been created in California (granted that one took like a whole building to create). All in all, we could be closer to implementing laser/microwave/plasma technology into small arms weapons than one might think.

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Reagan's Star Wars, nuff said :P

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OK it wasn't IMMEDIATELY obvious to me that the dominance of "lasers" in a mass effect-ruled universe would've been explained in the codex. Granted, it is kinda obvious that such a thing would've been explained in the Thanix-cannon entry, but my train of thought didn't take me there because I automatically assumed it was a laser and not bound by mass effect-physics



I repeat, I didn't think the dominance of "lasers" over mass effect in a game titled Mass Effect would be explained in the codex. I am sorry for... being wrong, I guess.

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IntrepidProdigy wrote...


If by DEW you mean dark energy weapons


DEW is short for "Directed Energy Weapon"

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D.E.W. Directed Energy Weapons. relatively common acronym used in the old 21st century.

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Because lasers are damn invisible. (In a perfectly empty space)



And, yes... it's molten metal at extreme speeds (FTL).

Which I totally can't even start imagining.



Science fiction, ugh.

But I like the story.

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AntiChri5 wrote...

Read the damn codex.


Harbinger of your Destiny wrote...

Peruse the infernal codex.


Gill Kaiser wrote...

Read the damn Codex.


NKKKK wrote...

Codex, no need to say more


It seems FTFC is the new RTFM.

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Avissel wrote...

IntrepidProdigy wrote...


If by DEW you mean dark energy weapons


DEW is short for "Directed Energy Weapon"

Ah, ok then. Looks like I'm rusty on my acronyms. If that's the case, then after looking at "that's impossible", I would have to completely disagree with the statement that DEWs are science fiction. Especially after seeing multiple demonstrations.

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Common mistake is that LASER technology is invisible. Fact is simply that the ability to see a LASER is entirely determinate upon the frequency of the light used in its composition.

i.e. You will never see a microwave laser, infra-red, ultra-violet, or anything that is not composed of visable light, period. You would be able to see anything (390nm - 750nm) for example the 532nm green laser products that are out there and at powers of as little as .125 watts will burn.

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IntrepidProdigy wrote...
Ah, ok then. Looks like I'm rusty on my acronyms. If that's the case, then after looking at "that's impossible", I would have to completely disagree with the statement that DEWs are science fiction. Especially after seeing multiple demonstrations.


a DEW is surely not impossible, however at this point they are largely impracctical as "main gun" of a weapons platform.

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trigger2kill1 wrote...

Common mistake is that LASER technology is invisible. Fact is simply that the ability to see a LASER is entirely determinate upon the frequency of the light used in its composition.
i.e. You will never see a microwave laser, infra-red, ultra-violet, or anything that is not composed of visable light, period. You would be able to see anything (390nm - 750nm) for example the 532nm green laser products that are out there and at powers of as little as .125 watts will burn.


How would you be able to see a laser? The photons would be moving in the direction of the laser, and there wouldn't really be anything for them to bounce off into your eyes...

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AntiChri5 wrote...

Read the damn codex.

^^^

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Avissel wrote...
a DEW is surely not impossible, however at this point they are largely impracctical as "main gun" of a weapons platform.

Indeed. We'll have to wait and see if/how that changes when 2016 comes around.

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I expect railguns to be developed to a greater extent than DEWs, personally.

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AntiChri5 wrote...

Read the damn codex.


word

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more likely it would be Coilguns that would get developed (these are far closer to what ME uses)

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HEY, I don't write the laws of thermodynamics, physics, or entropy those are just facts. You can see what your eyes were designed to see nothing more nothing less. If you have a problem with that then I suggest that you take it up with the Almighty. A little known fact is that our sun Sol, is the closest thing that you will ever see to a green star, as the overwhelming amount of light is in that spectra. Though it is a difficult thing to prove without dragging out reams of scientificaly relavent literature.

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Lambu1 wrote...

Reagan's Star Wars, nuff said :P


Star Wars got ****-canned because it'd require way too much power. They would have needed to build a nuclear reactor in space. They didn't want to risk losing the radioactive material and not have any idea of where it went.

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trigger2kill1 wrote...

HEY, I don't write the laws of thermodynamics, physics, or entropy those are just facts. You can see what your eyes were designed to see nothing more nothing less. If you have a problem with that then I suggest that you take it up with the Almighty. A little known fact is that our sun Sol, is the closest thing that you will ever see to a green star, as the overwhelming amount of light is in that spectra. Though it is a difficult thing to prove without dragging out reams of scientificaly relavent literature.

I know we can't see lasers that are outside the visible spectrum. What I mean is that I can't see any reason for us to be able to see a laser beam unless it were shone directly at our face, because how would the photons reach our eyes?

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yore sarcasm meter must be broken

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IntrepidProdigy wrote...

Avissel wrote...
a DEW is surely not impossible, however at this point they are largely impracctical as "main gun" of a weapons platform.

Indeed. We'll have to wait and see if/how that changes when 2016 comes around.


We have in our U.S. arsenal now 2 Boeing 747's with LASER defense weapons mounted in the nose.  WE have had this tech for over 10 years now it is a reality.

The U.S. Navy has several working proto type rail / coil mass drivers now. Able to throw 5 kg slugs of ferris metal at speeds in excess of mach 5, ranges exceeding 200 kilometers.

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Those are defense weapons meant to shot down incoming mortars or missiles. There are currently no weapon platforms in the world that use a DEW as the primary offensive weapon.

Thats what I meant.

Modifié par Avissel, 25 février 2010 - 08:02 .


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aaniadyen wrote...

Lambu1 wrote...

Reagan's Star Wars, nuff said :P


Star Wars got ****-canned because it'd require way too much power. They would have needed to build a nuclear reactor in space. They didn't want to risk losing the radioactive material and not have any idea of where it went.

Perhaps we don't haven't found enough energy in lasers to blow up a planet (yet). But in California, we have a laser with the power of a star (perhaps rivaling the capabilities of a nuclear war head). Think about that for a minute.

Edit: Here's a vid. Start from about 1:45 to see where it starts talking about this incredible power:  (sorry don't know how to embed links here)

Modifié par IntrepidProdigy, 25 février 2010 - 08:08 .


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aaniadyen wrote...

Lambu1 wrote...

Reagan's Star Wars, nuff said :P


Star Wars got ****-canned because it'd require way too much power. They would have needed to build a nuclear reactor in space. They didn't want to risk losing the radioactive material and not have any idea of where it went.

This is refering to the X-ray laser technology of the mid to late 1980's. It didn't have a nuclear reactor it had a nuke bomb inside focused through lenses to provide extreemly powerful X-ray lasers. They were scrapped due to the one time use law governing such devices, and because we didn't want a bunch of nukes orbiting the planet.

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Avissel wrote...

Those are defense weapons meant to shot down incoming mortars or missiles. There are currently no weapon platforms in the world that use a DEW as the primary offensive weapon.

Thats what I meant.


never heard of the LRAD?  it was used against the somali pirates.  granted its a sonic weapon but it still qualifies a DEW.  nothing like a 160 db to stop you in yore tracks


btw, the star wars crack was just that, a joke, i figured the nuff said would have illistrated that Posted Image

Modifié par Lambu1, 25 février 2010 - 08:10 .