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The Counsel and Shepard's Warnings.


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tropicalwave

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 After having read the books and played through the games again I am really wondering if the counsel is as blind as they lead on or are being manipulated by the Citadel or the Keepers.  After Anderson and Saren work together their is obvious information that there is something, a technology, beyond understanding.  They had the files.  That was thrown out do to the crazy ramblings or the scientist.  Then Shepard says she had alien technology say that there is something older than the Protheans and is blown off.  Then evidence comes up backing up Shep and they blame Saren.  Then Soveriegn shows up backing up the information they had recieved from Anderson long ago.  Once again they blow that off.  Shepard tell them about the holo on Ilos, saves them, tells them all that is known and is said to be under the influence of the vessle that they don't believe can do what it did.  

At every turn the counsel shoots down any idea of something bigger, badder and is coming for them even with so much circumstantial evidence and the knowledge that something happened to the race before them.  At ever turn they blame something else for it.  

So I've come to the conclusion that they are either very, very afraid of what it means and are hoping that ignoring it will make it go away (like not helping the Human's with their colonies, let us not bring attention to ourselves over here.)   Or more possibly that the same technology that made Sovereign so powerful is at hand but is not so overwhelming.  Either the Citadel itself or the keepers or maybe whatever is controlling the keepers is responsible for it.  Keep whoever is using the Citadel in a fram of mind that they ignore any evidence of the Harbringer or the Reapers. 

They just cannot be so stupid as to outright ignore the evidence that keeps pointing to the same thing.  

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Vamp-Willow

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My guess is they are simply to bloody afraid and can't or won't face the truth. Like people who detect a lump but won't go to the doctor for fear that it maybe be cancer. Lost a friend to this way of thinking.

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HeavyTankZA

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acting like a ostrich, sticking their heads into the ground and hoping the threat will magically disappear

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The Angry One

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Well if the council agreed we wouldn't have delicious air quotes!

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Daeion

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I can't wait to shoot that stupid turian in the face

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McBeath

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Yeah, it's a basic human tendancy to ignore what your afraid of. Now, it is uncharacteristic of a government, who usually has to deal with the problem due to public support/pressure, and even then they may go about it the "wrong" way just to keep the public happy.



They're kinda adressing the issue, in regards to blaiming it on the geth to maintain a calm public, showing that the enemy is tangable and that the military is in control.



How they actually feel is another story... perhaps they're on Shepards side during ME2, but won't admit it due to his involvement with Cerberus. If they were that against him they would never offer to reinstate him as a Spectre. It's likely some of thier ramblings were misinformation due to his Cerberus connection, and that in ME3 we'll see more from them. I mean, look at the Thanix cannon, the Turians got enough of Soverign to build it, they probibly have more insight into the reapers than they're letting on. Naturally, so will thier counciller.

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Exile Isan

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Or they do know and don't want to create panic and don't trust Shep because of his/her current relationship with Cerberus.

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Mavkiel

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Well in their defense pretty much all the hard evidence you gather is utterly destroyed. Also, lets say they believe you, what are they going to do? Rebuild their fleet? They are already moving on that as fast as possible. Create new reaper tech based weapons? Turians are already on top of that with their new beam weapon.



However, I have a hard really believing that they think the reapers don't exist. The circumstantial evidence alone is fairly large. Also what do they think Sovereign was doing on the citadel? Just probing their databases(wink wink)? You think once someone pointed out the citadel was a mass relay that it had to link to something.

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Humans are typically very good at rationalizing what they emotionally want to believe (see debates about religion, UFOs or conspiracy theories). The includes governments (see the vastly differing position on the climate issue), ans apparently other species as well. And at least in ME1 all evidence pointing directly to the Reapers is through Shepard's dream, some Geth memories and the encounter with the sovereign hologram. And he latter two would indeed also make sense as a ploy by Saren.

It gets somewhat harder to justify after the attack on the Citadel. But assuming that there is indeed nothing usable left of Sovereign the evidence remains circumstancial.



Still, I think there might be something to the idea that the Citadel exerts some mild form of indoctrination. How else can you explain that every species builds their galactic headquarter in a space station they virtually know nothing about? That's like finding a giant crashed UFO and deciding it would be a good idea to hold all UN plenum meetings in there.

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tropicalwave

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I understand the public face of not letting on but they are talking to Shepard the hero of the Citadel. Unless there is a real fear that Shep is working for Cerberus. That is one avenue I forgot to mention. They might have been hinting at by claiming I was brainwashed by TIM. that may not have been an insult but a clue that that is the reason they are not siding with Shep. (I keep wanting to say me.)



Speaking of those I want to shot can I just put a bullet between Udina's eyes? I mean really he is an Ass. (Anderson is great!)

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Daeion wrote...

I can't wait to shoot that stupid turian in the face


Same here. I really really hope we get to finger quote him back about reapers first though.