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[BostonVamp]

I feel like I missed a lot in this game - more than I usually do for an OC.

EDIT: However, not sure I'm up for another playthrough right now; unlike DA:O where I started a new game almost immediately.

Modifié par BostonVamp, 20 mars 2010 - 03:18 .

[shedevil3001]

hmmmmph not liking the chat system in awakening its too stripped down from in dao not much oppertunity to get connection with companions :{

[Liso66]

MaxQuartiroli wrote...

BostonVamp wrote...

Did you know the cat had some special powers? Not sure what it was, but he was clickable once he was given as a gift.

Really? I din't notice it....
BTW.. some hints for gift are not so...direct..... IE one of the gifts for Velanna. I would never be able to realize that after the hint it was that thing the right gift to make her happy...

I got that one easy.. I never got the one about the ring though. So I just tried to pass it off to each companion until one would take it   LOL

[Liso66]

shedevil3001 wrote...

hmmmmph not liking the chat system in awakening its too stripped down from in dao not much oppertunity to get connection with companions :{

Seems most of the players feel that way SD.. Including me.. 


BTW Hiyas!

[BostonVamp]

Liso66 wrote...

He has been with BW for quite a while. He was a designer before head writer.   So he can not be that young.. which raises the other questions I assume.  lol 

Yes, it does...hmmm.  And being a designer first & writer second now explains some of the comments. If he was a writer first, I don't think he'd have the same P.O.V.

[BostonVamp]

Hi SheDevil! Long time no see! "waves"

[Liso66]

BostonVamp wrote...

I feel like I missed a lot in this game - more than I usually do for an OC.

EDIT: However, not sure I'm up for another playthrough right now; unlike DA:O where I started a new game almost immediately.

Oh me too!!!  My first game ending, and found myself creating a new character right away! "sighs"  If I am wasting my time on a second run just to get the same game stopping bug.... I will scream!  really loudly! 

[shedevil3001]

hiya all only got my game yesterday and nearly completed it already mind i use some cheats as its better than stressing out at certain parts

[MaxQuartiroli]

I'm sure I didn't miss a lot of this game...

I was able to make the joining ritual to all the joinable companions (the last one you find isn't joinable therefore you have to follow the right order for the quest)

I had Velanna, Sigrun and Nat at + 100, Anders +80 (but I started with a -20 with him after few dialogues) Oghren +70 but I had a lot of diapproval for him because I always berate him.
Therefore I believe I had done more or less anything with them, dialogues, cutscenes and so on...

Modifié par MaxQuartiroli, 20 mars 2010 - 03:25 .

[BostonVamp]

shedevil3001 wrote...

hiya all only got my game yesterday and nearly completed it already mind i use some cheats as its better than stressing out at certain parts

I hear ya!  LOVE the banner, btw.

[Liso66]

BostonVamp wrote...

Liso66 wrote...

He has been with BW for quite a while. He was a designer before head writer.   So he can not be that young.. which raises the other questions I assume.  lol 

Yes, it does...hmmm.  And being a designer first & writer second now explains some of the comments. If he was a writer first, I don't think he'd have the same P.O.V.

I may have offended him pointing out the over use of "At Any Rate" in that thread..  I was counting how many times it was used in DA:O and DAA   LOL but lost count. It was so redundant, it became expected from every npc. I almost fell over if one did not say it!   lol

Oh!! "Elsewhere" was the other overly abused word..  think there are a couple others.

Modifié par Liso66, 20 mars 2010 - 03:27 .

[shedevil3001]

my lad made it for me i got a few more to make aswell



i use the immortal cheat especially in the spiders part as its hard to do with my eyes closed i keep dying so the cheat helps to terrified to play the spiders bit with my eyes open erghhhhhhhhhhhh

[MaxQuartiroli]

Good morning SheDevil. How are you?

[BostonVamp]

MaxQuartiroli wrote...

I'm sure I didn't miss a lot of this game...

I was able to make the joining ritual to all the joinable companions (the last one you find isn't joinable therefore you have to follow the right order for the quest)

I had Velanna, Sigrun and Nat at + 100, Anders +80 (but I started with a -20 with him after few dialogues) Oghren +70 but I had a lot of diapproval for him because I always berate him.
Therefore I believe I had done more or less anything with them, dialogues, cutscenes and so on...

For em, not everyone became a Grey Warden, so obviously there is a certain order that these quests should be done. I'm usually not too upset about missing quests on a first, second or even a third playthrough as I find it fun to discover new things on subsequent games. But for a $40 expansion pack, you'd think I'd hit nearly everything rather than miss lots.

[shedevil3001]

i'm good thanx max and how are you all on this wonderful day ?

[Liso66]

shedevil3001 wrote...

my lad made it for me i got a few more to make aswell

i use the immortal cheat especially in the spiders part as its hard to do with my eyes closed i keep dying so the cheat helps to terrified to play the spiders bit with my eyes open erghhhhhhhhhhhh

I thought the combat was way easy in the expansion. I had way more challenge in DA:O  and deaths  lol  Oddly? once I got the hang of the game, my pc rarely died. Others did, like Oghren. Seemed fun for him to die though.  hehe

[shedevil3001]

ok now i just feel like a big cheater lol



my character is quite a beast but she still gets alot of damage by magic or the blummin broodmother in dao

[MaxQuartiroli]

Concerning the new dialogue system. Well. I am really unable to give a definitely opinion...

Even if it not as bad as I was expecting it is the most unnatural and unrealistic thing ever.. It's impossible I have to click on an inanimate object in order to "unlock" a dialogue with a companion instead of clicking directly on him/her directly. This thing is even worse if, as you said, some of these object are really difficult to find.

But on the the other side if you are able and you have the luck/patience to find all of them at the end of the game you can realize you really got the connection with them, even if you were unable to begin directly a conversation...and you avoid during the game to ask them 350 times the same question because you clicked on him/her, you discovered there are no new dialogue options and you have to ask however something and this thing is also unrealistic...

I really don't know what to think now....

Modifié par MaxQuartiroli, 20 mars 2010 - 03:46 .

[BostonVamp]

Liso66 wrote...

BostonVamp wrote...

Liso66 wrote...

He has been with BW for quite a while. He was a designer before head writer.   So he can not be that young.. which raises the other questions I assume.  lol 

Yes, it does...hmmm.  And being a designer first & writer second now explains some of the comments. If he was a writer first, I don't think he'd have the same P.O.V.

I may have offended him pointing out the over use of "At Any Rate" in that thread..  I was counting how many times it was used in DA:O and DAA   LOL but lost count. It was so redundant, it became expected from every npc. I almost fell over if one did not say it!   lol

Oh!! "Elsewhere" was the other overly abused word..  think there are a couple others.

I wasn't even thinking about that (although I might now be paying more attention - thanks for that...grrr.). It's just that developers have one set of goals and writers have other sets of goals and they aren't always compatible. I also get the impression he may offend easily. For example, there were maybe a handful of posts on the conversation thread that were more of a personal nature, but a majority (a big majority) of the posts were constructive and thoughtful. Of the 995 posts that were positive, it seemed he concentrated on the 5 that weren't which I just thought odd.  In this type of medium asking for such feedback, you'd expect to have some negative and possibly personal attacks. You need to let them roll off your back & concentrate on those whose goals are really wanting to participate in the creation of a fantastic RPG gaming experience. Not saying that it's easy and you can misinterpret tone & intent from this medium, but it should just be expected (unfortunately). That's what happens when passions are high.

Sorry for long post - will get off soapbox now.

[Liso66]

shedevil3001 wrote...

ok now i just feel like a big cheater lol

my character is quite a beast but she still gets alot of damage by magic or the blummin broodmother in dao

Don't feel that way...  After my 3rd or 4th run.. I was cheating a bit just to push things along. 

[BostonVamp]

Liso66 wrote...

shedevil3001 wrote...

my lad made it for me i got a few more to make aswell

i use the immortal cheat especially in the spiders part as its hard to do with my eyes closed i keep dying so the cheat helps to terrified to play the spiders bit with my eyes open erghhhhhhhhhhhh

I thought the combat was way easy in the expansion. I had way more challenge in DA:O  and deaths  lol  Oddly? once I got the hang of the game, my pc rarely died. Others did, like Oghren. Seemed fun for him to die though.  hehe

Yeah, I had lots of healing potions I just didn't need.

[MaxQuartiroli]

@shedevil... I'm fine thanks.. It's a cloudy day here.. I have to clean my house and I don't feel like it



@vamp...maybe a $40 expansion foresee that you have to play it more than one time in order to discover anything.. if it wasn't so, and it needed just 1 playtrough to discover anything it would be more cheaper.. don't you think so?

[BostonVamp]

MaxQuartiroli wrote...

Concerning the new dialogue system. Well. I am really unable to give a definitely opinion...

Even if it not as bad as I was expecting it is the most unnatural and unrealistic thing ever.. It's impossible I have to click on an inanimate object in order to "unlock" a dialogue with a companion instead of clicking directly on him/her directly. This thing is even worse if, as you said, some of these object are really find to find.

But on the the other side if you are able and you have the luck/patience to find all of them at the end of the game you can realize you really got the connection with them, even if you were unable to begin directly a conversation...and you avoid during the game to ask them 350 times the same question because you clicked on him/her, you discovered there are no new dialogue options and you have to ask however something and this thing is also unrealistic...

I really don't know what to think now....

I do think some hybrid might be the best. I agree that I don't want to feel like I'm grilling my companions as if in a job interview and I don't want all conversation options to happen all at once. However, I am asking these people to possibly die for me. The least I can do is to get to know them.

[Liso66]

BostonVamp wrote...


I wasn't even thinking about that (although I might now be paying more attention - thanks for that...grrr.). It's just that developers have one set of goals and writers have other sets of goals and they aren't always compatible. I also get the impression he may offend easily. For example, there were maybe a handful of posts on the conversation thread that were more of a personal nature, but a majority (a big majority) of the posts were constructive and thoughtful. Of the 995 posts that were positive, it seemed he concentrated on the 5 that weren't which I just thought odd.  In this type of medium asking for such feedback, you'd expect to have some negative and possibly personal attacks. You need to let them roll off your back & concentrate on those whose goals are really wanting to participate in the creation of a fantastic RPG gaming experience. Not saying that it's easy and you can misinterpret tone & intent from this medium, but it should just be expected (unfortunately). That's what happens when passions are high.

Sorry for long post - will get off soapbox now.

Sorry for planting that in your mind.  "oops"  hehe



I agree with you though, and noticed the same thing. He came unglued "lack of better
word" by personal attacks. I am not an advocate of personal attacks,
they are pointless and counter-productive. Why he did not address the
real constructive comments was beyond me. Just my opinion, but he
avoided those with a good point. Embraced those who agreed with him, and
retaliated with those that attacked. 

Modifié par Liso66, 20 mars 2010 - 03:43 .

[MaxQuartiroli]

Liso66 wrote...

shedevil3001 wrote...

ok now i just feel like a big cheater lol

my character is quite a beast but she still gets alot of damage by magic or the blummin broodmother in dao

Don't feel that way...  After my 3rd or 4th run.. I was cheating a bit just to push things along. 

My only cheat on 4th playtrough was to switch in easy mod during deep roads in order to complete them a.s.a.p. and using a walkthrough on youtube for the gauntlet bridge becuase I was too tired...
If you switch on easy mod you really don't need any cheat...