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[MaxQuartiroli]

Liso66 wrote...

BostonVamp wrote...

MaxQuartiroli wrote...

SD Would you be happy if in order to let you play your old warden they decide you are no more married with Alistair, he disappears, you are no more queen and so on?

EDIT.. You had the best ending ever.. Queen - married with the love of your life.. What would you may ever hope of better than this?
Sometimes it is also right saying "Yes, I loved these caracters but now it's time to close the book because they did everything they had to do...and be ready to open a new book, hoping it would be even better than this one"

I hate to disagree with you, Max, but just because I'm married doesn't mean my life stops. I have a job / career. Yes, so being Queen is a career, but hey, I could go to work as a Grey Warden and then come back home - I don't see a difference and in fact, see it as an enrichening experience for my character.

:wizard::wizard:   gotta agree with Vampy too

A game is not real life.. Why books aren't long at least 5000 page then? Or movies don't last about 8 hours?Because there is a moment, a right moment where is right to write the words "The End"
The one who can complain are just Morrigan's lover who are really at high risk to know their romance had just a bittersweet ending...

[Cancermeat]

If Alistar became king in your game does he take anti warden potion so he isnt a warden anymore?

[BostonVamp]

MaxQuartiroli wrote...

If Orlais would invade Ferelden, or Ferelden would invade Orlais Grey Wardens won't do ANYTHING.. because they are a neutral army which minds only about Darkspawn.

In Dragon Age Origins we save circle of mages, we help dwarves, elves, humans, kill demons, decide who is king and a lot of nice thing, but just because there was a blight. If there wasn't a blight we won't mind a heck about elven's problem with werewolves or help dwarves to decide their king...

Did you not listen to anything Wynne said?

Grey Wardens are protectors. So they would protect the people from whatever is needed.

[Liso66]

MaxQuartiroli wrote...


A game is not real life.. Why books aren't long at least 5000 page then? Or movies don't last about 8 hours?Because there is a moment, a right moment where is right to write the words "The End"
The one who can complain are just Morrigan's lover who are really at high risk to know their romance had just a bittersweet ending...

And the debate continues. Max. this is not the end though. there is a DA2 coming. Much like ME2 and ME3 planned. Which is being carried on. Also stand alone.. 

So, your ending theory is not valid..  not until they are fnished making the DA series..  

[Liso66]

Cancermeat wrote...

If Alistar became king in your game does he take anti warden potion so he isnt a warden anymore?

LOL nope..  he becomes a lame tool and 30 seconds of blabbering to say the Bannon needs help.. which Eamon must not be a very good regent..  ????

[shedevil3001]

as proven in both dao and awakening max our wardens do quests that have nothing to do with darkspawn or a blight so they could still fight for their home after all they lived in fereldon that makes it personal

[Cancermeat]

Gosh he marched all the way over just to tell you thats this is YOUR problem.

[Liso66]

Also... if memory serves... the GW's havde conscripted kings, princes, and nobles. not just the riffraff of life... So Alistair not taking a part is retarded.. He was just to costly to VO...

[TheLion36]

MaxQuartiroli wrote...
In ME you are Commander Shepard.. stop. No other choices

In Dragon Age you're a Warden... There are very few character choices that are different to continue or wouldn't be there for new players either (mage/rogue/etc).

MaxQuartiroli wrote...
In DA you may be a lot of things really different from each other.. You may be a human noble or a dalish elf rogue a nobil dwarf or a mage.

These things already where already of very small importance in Origins and the new players in DA2 will have the same decisions, the origins wouldn't be there but the origins stories are seldom referenced.

MaxQuartiroli wrote...
Relationships with npC in ME are not in-depth as in DA
Important choices and consequences on the ending of the game are many many more in DA than in ME

The end game choices are very minimal, you either live or die... The specific differences are mainly also about who made a sacrifice or whether or not you did the ritual. And considering the amount of impact most of your choices made on the Origins story throughout the game (which is very little), it cant be too hard to do.

MaxQuartiroli wrote...
We can't just compare the 2 games because ME was much more easy to continue, and they had still troubles in doing it, expecially with the romances.. and there was only 3 romances with no different endings inside the same romance while in DA you may have differences even inside the same romance from a playtrough to another, therefore...

If they where smart (and I have a feeling they where), the story with all the core choices for DA1 / DA2 and DA3 has already been written. Therefore all of the decision are known upfront before they began working on DAO, which means they had all the work done... If you plan this sort of stuff ahead this isn't very hard to do anymore. Its only if you start planning after teh first game is out that its hard to continue.

I never compared the games btw I just stated they did it there as well... Even if that one was easier that doesn't mean its too hard in DA and it also means they had practice with ME and know what mistakes not to make. I really do think they have the "red thread" running through the DA story line finished already which makes all the core decisions known up front and means they should be able to do it easily.

[Liso66]

Cancermeat wrote...

Gosh he marched all the way over just to tell you thats this is YOUR problem.

Exactly! And if you are his love/wife.. you get a silly kiss on the cheek and told byebye....   "rolls eyes"  I guess they thought they were doing us some sort of justice by placating us with total bull....

[MaxQuartiroli]

Liso66 wrote...

MaxQuartiroli wrote...


A game is not real life.. Why books aren't long at least 5000 page then? Or movies don't last about 8 hours?Because there is a moment, a right moment where is right to write the words "The End"
The one who can complain are just Morrigan's lover who are really at high risk to know their romance had just a bittersweet ending...

And the debate continues. Max. this is not the end though. there is a DA2 coming. Much like ME2 and ME3 planned. Which is being carried on. Also stand alone.. 

So, your ending theory is not valid..  not until they are fnished making the DA series..  

Never forget the words of Gaider who said "Forget immediately Dragon Age will be the story of your character, we planned Dragon Age to be the story of a whole world, Tedas, and all the things that may happen inside of this world"

[Cancermeat]

I think Velanna is what happens when elves drink too much espresso.

[shedevil3001]

yeah but gaider also said oghren played an important role in awakenings erm how was he important exactly except to annoy even more people ?

[BostonVamp]

Liso66 wrote...

Cancermeat wrote...

Gosh he marched all the way over just to tell you thats this is YOUR problem.

Exactly! And if you are his love/wife.. you get a silly kiss on the cheek and told byebye....   "rolls eyes"  I guess they thought they were doing us some sort of justice by placating us with total bull....

The kiss on the cheek just drove me nuts...Puhleeze!!!!  If you're gonna leave me, leave me with something!  Shoulda had a quickie someplace, at least.

[Cancermeat]

Liso66 wrote...

Cancermeat wrote...

Gosh he marched all the way over just to tell you thats this is YOUR problem.

Exactly! And if you are his love/wife.. you get a silly kiss on the cheek and told byebye....   "rolls eyes"  I guess they thought they were doing us some sort of justice by placating us with total bull....

Awakening story is good but sometimes it feels like a poor man's dragon age. ie the new dialouge system.

[MaxQuartiroli]

BostonVamp wrote...

MaxQuartiroli wrote...

If Orlais would invade Ferelden, or Ferelden would invade Orlais Grey Wardens won't do ANYTHING.. because they are a neutral army which minds only about Darkspawn.

In Dragon Age Origins we save circle of mages, we help dwarves, elves, humans, kill demons, decide who is king and a lot of nice thing, but just because there was a blight. If there wasn't a blight we won't mind a heck about elven's problem with werewolves or help dwarves to decide their king...

Did you not listen to anything Wynne said?

Grey Wardens are protectors. So they would protect the people from whatever is needed.

They are not a police force or marines.. They only fight the darkspawn. Without Drakspawn they don't do anything. They can't mind other things.. Let suppose they are sent to fight an army from another reign and 90% of them dies.. Few days later a blight begin and all of them was died doing another thing.. They just can't do anything different than fighting darkspawn, sorry

[Liso66]

MaxQuartiroli wrote...


Never forget the words of Gaider who said "Forget immediately Dragon Age will be the story of your character, we planned Dragon Age to be the story of a whole world, Tedas, and all the things that may happen inside of this world"

Regardless what "at any rate" dude says..  not continuing this as ME was.. is a huge mistake.  and NOT impossible. 

and Lion is correct.. the final choices are not so vast,,  Also!!! look how many little choices during ME2 carried over to ME2? Even surprising ones I never thought that would. 

[Liso66]

shedevil3001 wrote...

yeah but gaider also said oghren played an important role in awakenings erm how was he important exactly except to annoy even more people ?

He was in charge of keeping guard of that giant keg behind him 

[shedevil3001]

lmao well maybe not too much of a quicky vamp you heard zevran about alistair erm stopping abruptly when things just started to sound good in dao

[Liso66]

BostonVamp wrote...

Liso66 wrote...

Cancermeat wrote...

Gosh he marched all the way over just to tell you thats this is YOUR problem.

Exactly! And if you are his love/wife.. you get a silly kiss on the cheek and told byebye....   "rolls eyes"  I guess they thought they were doing us some sort of justice by placating us with total bull....

The kiss on the cheek just drove me nuts...Puhleeze!!!!  If you're gonna leave me, leave me with something!  Shoulda had a quickie someplace, at least.

I know right!!!???    gimme something to smile about when sludging through all this ick!  

[Cancermeat]

Well atleast you girls got something, they didnt even MENTION morrigan in it.

[Liso66]

Cancermeat wrote...

Well atleast you girls got something, they didnt even MENTION morrigan in it.

I could have lived with out it, trust me. it was more annoying than nice

[Cancermeat]

Well i guess that makes up for your lack of choices in BG2.

[BostonVamp]

shedevil3001 wrote...

lmao well maybe not too much of a quicky vamp you heard zevran about alistair erm stopping abruptly when things just started to sound good in dao

There are herbs for that...

[TheLion36]

MaxQuartiroli wrote...
Never forget the words of Gaider who said "Forget immediately Dragon Age will be the story of your character, we planned Dragon Age to be the story of a whole world, Tedas, and all the things that may happen inside of this world"

Yeah but he was very unclear with what he actually meant, the story is about the world but it might still involve your character.
He has also stated we hadn't seen the last of Morrigan, to me that would be only fair if that would be with my warden and not some silly green leafed recruit! 

MaxQuartiroli wrote...
They just can't do anything different than fighting darkspawn, sorry

Then explain to me all the quests we've been doing? In Awakening and Origins a lot of the stuff my wardens have been doing had nothing to do with darkspawn... On TOP of that in Awakening I was even making legal decisions for people and they where writing the warden commander for help...

P.S. You're entitled to your opinion of course mate and I'm not trying to tell you you're seeing everything wrong, I'm just stating I'm seeing a lot of things different...

Modifié par TheLion36, 22 mars 2010 - 07:44 .