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[BostonVamp]

shedevil3001 wrote...

Liso66 wrote...

shedevil3001 wrote...

oh yes i finally got loghain in my game and my approval +10 for nathaniel i think it was or anders cant remember which :}

Was Loghain like really nice to you? He was acting like my best buddy when I met him.  hehe

very buddy buddy with my warden too but i thought it was appropriate as they were friends in my ending even though the approval said 100% neutral he said he never thought we'd become friends and i said to him me neither hehe but we were

I guess your Warden could be pals with Loghain if he was conscripted into the Wardens & hated it, but I think Alistair's passionate speech about why he shouldn't live is pretty compelling.

[BostonVamp]

Plus leaving your King to die on the battlefield...not cool.

[shedevil3001]

oh i almost cried at losing alistair but i only let loghain live twice to see his side of things and for the achievement i still think loghain is an evil sod though and deserved to die

[BostonVamp]

BostonVamp wrote...

Plus leaving your King to die on the battlefield...not cool.

The son of your best friend...

Your son-in-law...

The husband of your only daughter...

[Liso66]

MaxQuartiroli wrote...



ah Loghain.. good old guy !!!
I am so sorry I haven't met him in Awakening because he sacrified himself for me...

LOL   I have tow endings, he was so kind to offer up his life for me..  One, married Anora, and Two.. lost Alistair..So kind of him really..  hehe

[MaxQuartiroli]

BostonVamp wrote...

BostonVamp wrote...

Plus leaving your King to die on the battlefield...not cool.

The son of your best friend...

Your son-in-law...

The husband of your only daughter...

Loghain or not Loghain... After talking with Cailan the first time.. and after looking how idiot he was...
Did anyone ever thought he could survive to that battle? I imagined immediately he would die in that battle.. Didn't only know how.. 

[Liso66]

@ Vampy. Very true about Loghain. Though... those times where not so civil, and you can see it as Alistair being unreasonable. Here is why.. When Reordian says "there are compelling reasons to need more wardens" I know right away someone had to die.. My first reaction was. YES Loghain is a tool.. And Alistair was too dumb to pay attention.

[BostonVamp]

Liso66 wrote...

MaxQuartiroli wrote...



ah Loghain.. good old guy !!!
I am so sorry I haven't met him in Awakening because he sacrified himself for me...

LOL   I have tow endings, he was so kind to offer up his life for me..  One, married Anora, and Two.. lost Alistair..So kind of him really..  hehe

But doesn't he become a Hero?  The destroyer of the Grey Wardens (nearly) becomes its newest Hero?!  Grrrr.....

[Kenrae]

BostonVamp wrote...
I guess your Warden could be pals with Loghain if he was conscripted into the Wardens & hated it, but I think Alistair's passionate speech about why he shouldn't live is pretty compelling.

Compelling? He sounded like a spoiled brat, putting his personal vendetta over ending a blight. It doesn't matter how bad Loghain is, ending the blight is far more important than vengeance.
To put it bluntly: Duncan would have recruited him.

[MaxQuartiroli]

Liso66 wrote...

MaxQuartiroli wrote...



ah Loghain.. good old guy !!!
I am so sorry I haven't met him in Awakening because he sacrified himself for me...

LOL   I have tow endings, he was so kind to offer up his life for me..  One, married Anora, and Two.. lost Alistair..So kind of him really..  hehe

Oh yes.. I let him sacrifice without questioning.. I remembered I told him something.. "I hoped you'd ask for this"

Modifié par MaxQuartiroli, 23 mars 2010 - 12:42 .

[shedevil3001]

cailan wanted to be like his father after been told all the tales of his fathers battles i personally didnt think he was foolish just he had a lot to live upto and his expectations were to high but he was a better man than loghain after reading the stolen throne and finding out that loghain betrayed maric as reguards to katriel then poor cailan and duncan well lets just say i wish i could torture him first then kill him

[TheLion36]

BostonVamp wrote...
Hi Lion!  Glad to hear it! Then again, with your name, I wouldn't have expected any less.

lol
How are you doing today Vampilicious?

MaxQuartiroli wrote...
Loghain or not Loghain... After talking with Cailan the first time.. and after looking how idiot he was...
Did anyone ever thought he could survive to that battle? I imagined immediately he would die in that battle.. Didn't only know how.. 

Not sure he was really dumb, he was very ambitious... Just young and impatient... Lots of figures in history came pretty far with that attitude!  
Not sure what I imagined... I think mostly I don't imagine anything about the story and just let it play out...

[MaxQuartiroli]

BostonVamp wrote...

Liso66 wrote...

MaxQuartiroli wrote...



ah Loghain.. good old guy !!!
I am so sorry I haven't met him in Awakening because he sacrified himself for me...

LOL   I have tow endings, he was so kind to offer up his life for me..  One, married Anora, and Two.. lost Alistair..So kind of him really..  hehe

But doesn't he become a Hero?  The destroyer of the Grey Wardens (nearly) becomes its newest Hero?!  Grrrr.....

Who cares about it? I had to save my life... and going back to Leliana !!

[BostonVamp]

Liso66 wrote...

@ Vampy. Very true about Loghain. Though... those times where not so civil, and you can see it as Alistair being unreasonable. Here is why.. When Reordian says "there are compelling reasons to need more wardens" I know right away someone had to die.. My first reaction was. YES Loghain is a tool.. And Alistair was too dumb to pay attention.

No, not dumb. Blinded by passion. He was a Grey Warden longer and actually knew those guys. It was like he lost a family, a place where he felt he finally belonged. I can see why his passions got the better of him.

I agree - you knew the end wasn't going to be a good one for someone and Loghain does seem to be made to sacrifice...

[BostonVamp]

shedevil3001 wrote...

cailan wanted to be like his father after been told all the tales of his fathers battles i personally didnt think he was foolish just he had a lot to live upto and his expectations were to high but he was a better man than loghain after reading the stolen throne and finding out that loghain betrayed maric as reguards to katriel then poor cailan and duncan well lets just say i wish i could torture him first then kill him

Oh yeah, Cailan was a fool and yes, after reading The Stolen Throne, you just knew there was a betrayer in Loghain somewhere.

[Curlain]

BostonVamp wrote...

BostonVamp wrote...

Plus leaving your King to die on the battlefield...not cool.

The son of your best friend...

Your son-in-law...

The husband of your only daughter...

And the son of the only woman he had loved in Rowan 

[BostonVamp]

TheLion36 wrote...

BostonVamp wrote...
Hi Lion!  Glad to hear it! Then again, with your name, I wouldn't have expected any less.

lol
How are you doing today Vampilicious?

MaxQuartiroli wrote...
Loghain or not Loghain... After talking with Cailan the first time.. and after looking how idiot he was...
Did anyone ever thought he could survive to that battle? I imagined immediately he would die in that battle.. Didn't only know how.. 

Not sure he was really dumb, he was very ambitious... Just young and impatient... Lots of figures in history came pretty far with that attitude!  
Not sure what I imagined... I think mostly I don't imagine anything about the story and just let it play out...

I'm good, thanks. Hope your Tuesday has been better than your Monday.

[BostonVamp]

Curlain wrote...

BostonVamp wrote...

BostonVamp wrote...

Plus leaving your King to die on the battlefield...not cool.

The son of your best friend...

Your son-in-law...

The husband of your only daughter...

And the son of the only woman he had loved in Rowan 

True, but I'm not sure if that would have worked in his favor...

[shedevil3001]

Kenrae wrote...

BostonVamp wrote...
I guess your Warden could be pals with Loghain if he was conscripted into the Wardens & hated it, but I think Alistair's passionate speech about why he shouldn't live is pretty compelling.

Compelling? He sounded like a spoiled brat, putting his personal vendetta over ending a blight. It doesn't matter how bad Loghain is, ending the blight is far more important than vengeance.
To put it bluntly: Duncan would have recruited him.

excuse me for pointing this out but doesnt a hn do the same thing with arl howe for revenge so how are we any different to alistair and hes not a spoiled brat duncan was like a father and cailan was his half brother it obviously hurt him too much to even consider letting loghain live if someone hurt my family in any way theres no way i'd forgive them and like alistair explains being a grey warden is an honor why honor loghain for his treachery

[Liso66]

BostonVamp wrote...


But doesn't he become a Hero?  The destroyer of the Grey Wardens (nearly) becomes its newest Hero?!  Grrrr.....

Nope.. your pc is still the hero..  The only one that regarded him a hero was Anora really

[TheLion36]

BostonVamp wrote...
I'm good, thanks. Hope your Tuesday has been better than your Monday.

hehe yeah lots better already!  Mondays are always all over the place (as in I do all sorts of unplanned things) and never get around to the planned things! hehe

[MaxQuartiroli]

BostonVamp wrote...

Liso66 wrote...

@ Vampy. Very true about Loghain. Though... those times where not so civil, and you can see it as Alistair being unreasonable. Here is why.. When Reordian says "there are compelling reasons to need more wardens" I know right away someone had to die.. My first reaction was. YES Loghain is a tool.. And Alistair was too dumb to pay attention.

No, not dumb. Blinded by passion. He was a Grey Warden longer and actually knew those guys. It was like he lost a family, a place where he felt he finally belonged. I can see why his passions got the better of him.

I agree - you knew the end wasn't going to be a good one for someone and Loghain does seem to be made to sacrifice...

I have to say a thing...
Loghain may also be a *** of a ***** and may have done what he has done...but sparing him is even better than killing a man who had already surrended to you and killing him in front of his daughter, spanding his blood in her face !!! Doing such a thing only means to be even worse than him...

[BostonVamp]

Liso66 wrote...

BostonVamp wrote...


But doesn't he become a Hero?  The destroyer of the Grey Wardens (nearly) becomes its newest Hero?!  Grrrr.....

Nope.. your pc is still the hero..  The only one that regarded him a hero was Anora really

Really?!  Huh...I guess the winner controls the 'truth" about history.

[BostonVamp]

MaxQuartiroli wrote...

BostonVamp wrote...

Liso66 wrote...

@ Vampy. Very true about Loghain. Though... those times where not so civil, and you can see it as Alistair being unreasonable. Here is why.. When Reordian says "there are compelling reasons to need more wardens" I know right away someone had to die.. My first reaction was. YES Loghain is a tool.. And Alistair was too dumb to pay attention.

No, not dumb. Blinded by passion. He was a Grey Warden longer and actually knew those guys. It was like he lost a family, a place where he felt he finally belonged. I can see why his passions got the better of him.

I agree - you knew the end wasn't going to be a good one for someone and Loghain does seem to be made to sacrifice...

I have to say a thing...
Loghain may also be a *** of a ***** and may have done what he has done...but sparing him is even better than killing a man who had already surrended to you and killing him in front of his daughter, spanding his blood in her face !!! Doing such a thing only means to be even worse than him...

He was a traitor and needed to die one way or another. I'll admit that I was surprised that you could kill him then and there, but them was part of the rules...

[BostonVamp]

TheLion36 wrote...

BostonVamp wrote...
I'm good, thanks. Hope your Tuesday has been better than your Monday.

hehe yeah lots better already!  Mondays are always all over the place (as in I do all sorts of unplanned things) and never get around to the planned things! hehe

Ahh, the best laid plans of mice and men...