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[LostHH]

The ol' pc vs console gaming thread huh?

[GnusmasTHX]

Aradace wrote...

Jigero wrote...

Lets see

PC version is:
10 dollars Cheaper
Loads Faster
No repeated disc swapping.
Faster Scanning
You can download games saves.

Yes lets sacrifice all that just to play with a controller. Great idea

Annnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnd you seem to forget that it takes a decent rig set up to be able to even play a game like ME or ME2.  SOME people cant afford to spent 2 grand every couple of years on a freaking new computer just so they can "think" they're better than the console community lol.  Unless you personally are going to buy me said new computer every couple of years to keep up with things, you can take your "High and mighty" attitude about the PC version and stuff it.

FFAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIILLLLLLLL.

I got my PC when the 8800GTS came out (someone feel free to throw out a year for that) for $500CAD. A little more than I would have paid for an X360... Years later, probably more than 2, I'm playing Mass Effect 2 on the highest settings with an excellent frame rate. (At maxed settings 19x10)

(Quick Google says my card came out 2007-2008)

Best of all, it's a PC... Not a toy. It only does EVERYTHING.

Modifié par GnusmasTHX, 26 février 2010 - 11:11 .

[Timey254]

LostHH wrote...

The ol' pc vs console gaming thread huh?

n1!

I don't like the discussion either, but when these PC stereotypes are dug up, I turn into the HULK (a reasonable HULK, but still a Hulk)

[Jaymo147]

GnusmasTHX wrote...

Aradace wrote...

Jigero wrote...

Lets see

PC version is:
10 dollars Cheaper
Loads Faster
No repeated disc swapping.
Faster Scanning
You can download games saves.

Yes lets sacrifice all that just to play with a controller. Great idea

Annnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnd you seem to forget that it takes a decent rig set up to be able to even play a game like ME or ME2.  SOME people cant afford to spent 2 grand every couple of years on a freaking new computer just so they can "think" they're better than the console community lol.  Unless you personally are going to buy me said new computer every couple of years to keep up with things, you can take your "High and mighty" attitude about the PC version and stuff it.

FFAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIILLLLLLLL.

I got my PC when the 8800GTS came out (someone feel free to throw out a year for that) for $500CAD. A little more than I would have paid for an X360... Years later, probably more than 2, I'm playing Mass Effect 2 on the highest settings with an excellent frame rate. (At maxed settings 19x10)

(Quick Google says my card came out 2007-2008)

Best of all, it's a PC... Not a toy. It only does EVERYTHING.

I remember the 8800GTS. I ended up switching to a 4870, and now I am rocking the 5870.
After a single upgrade now, I will be able to max out every game thrown at me.

[Aradace]

GnusmasTHX wrote...

Aradace wrote...

Jigero wrote...

Lets see

PC version is:
10 dollars Cheaper
Loads Faster
No repeated disc swapping.
Faster Scanning
You can download games saves.

Yes lets sacrifice all that just to play with a controller. Great idea

Annnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnd you seem to forget that it takes a decent rig set up to be able to even play a game like ME or ME2.  SOME people cant afford to spent 2 grand every couple of years on a freaking new computer just so they can "think" they're better than the console community lol.  Unless you personally are going to buy me said new computer every couple of years to keep up with things, you can take your "High and mighty" attitude about the PC version and stuff it.

FFAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIILLLLLLLL.

I got my PC when the 8800GTS came out (someone feel free to throw out a year for that) for $500CAD. A little more than I would have paid for an X360... Years later, probably more than 2, I'm playing Mass Effect 2 on the highest settings with an excellent frame rate. (At maxed settings 19x10)

(Quick Google says my card came out 2007-2008)

Best of all, it's a PC... Not a toy. It only does EVERYTHING.

Yea, Im not paying 500$ for a f***ing graphics card...Just...not....happening...So, the only person who fails here is you sir for trying to make yourself out to be "superior" lol.

[Darth_Trethon]

Fact: 360 is better than the PC all day every day for all games across all genres.



My reasoning: I've posted it too many times to care to repeat it in the past two and a half years since I joined the BioWare forums.

[Selvec_Darkon]

First off, anyone who says "Graphics are better" doesn't know what they are talking about. The Graphics on the PC are only better if you have the correct computer confirguration to run it at higher settings, otherwise it's not better, its about the same, sometimes worse.

Now, the PC game is easier. Mostly because there are extrenal ways around stuff like scanning for resources, and not getting to choose another weapon. The PC version also has a marginally larger lifespan as a game, as in about three months time you can come back and find a slew of new custom content created by the community, giving the game new life. Well worth purchasing it for that alone.

The PC version also has 1.1 patch, which fixes a massive amount of bugs fot the game, and likely many more patches will come more frequently on the PC then on the Xbox360.

In saying this, the games shooting, movement and other controls are designed with the Xbox360 gamepad in mind, even with the PC's key bindings it's still a little fidgty now and then. The Xbox360's release version was also a little more stable. The Xbox360 also has the possability of console only DLC, which as happened before and may happen again. It also typically gets DLC a bit faster then PC does, as shown by the Dragon Age DLC.

Beyond the convience factor of the Xbox360, it's really a matter of what you want. I honestly see little difference between my Xbox360 running 1680X1050 HDMI on my monitor and someone running on high settings on their PC, infact my performance in most cases is a bit better.

However, if I had to choose, I'd go PC. The PC has longer lifespan for gaming, and quite frankely long lifespan in a game is pretty much the #1 reason to purchase a game these days. If a community can keep a game going for years with fresh stuff, it's worth getting.

[SurfaceBeneath]

Faster scanning on the PC?



Who scans on the PC when you can just save edit resources in to your game in all of 10 seconds?

[GnusmasTHX]

Aradace wrote...

GnusmasTHX wrote...

Aradace wrote...

Jigero wrote...

Lets see

PC version is:
10 dollars Cheaper
Loads Faster
No repeated disc swapping.
Faster Scanning
You can download games saves.

Yes lets sacrifice all that just to play with a controller. Great idea

Annnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnd you seem to forget that it takes a decent rig set up to be able to even play a game like ME or ME2.  SOME people cant afford to spent 2 grand every couple of years on a freaking new computer just so they can "think" they're better than the console community lol.  Unless you personally are going to buy me said new computer every couple of years to keep up with things, you can take your "High and mighty" attitude about the PC version and stuff it.

FFAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIILLLLLLLL.

I got my PC when the 8800GTS came out (someone feel free to throw out a year for that) for $500CAD. A little more than I would have paid for an X360... Years later, probably more than 2, I'm playing Mass Effect 2 on the highest settings with an excellent frame rate. (At maxed settings 19x10)

(Quick Google says my card came out 2007-2008)

Best of all, it's a PC... Not a toy. It only does EVERYTHING.

Yea, Im not paying 500$ for a f***ing graphics card...Just...not....happening...So, the only person who fails here is you sir for trying to make yourself out to be "superior" lol.

READING COMPREHENSION FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFAAAAAAAAAAIIIIIIILLLLLLLLLLLL.

I paid $500 CAD for my ENTIRE computer, genius.

Which not only plays games, it does just about everything else imaginable. Good job make a childish investment on a TOY, rather than something infinitely more useful.

I'm just stating the facts here, I never said, nor made any mention of myself being "superior"... Only that you're wrong about a great deal of things.

No need to erect your "I'm a fanatical Console-user trying frantically to defend my investment with made-up 'facts' and statistics" shield.

I own one, too, you know.

Modifié par GnusmasTHX, 26 février 2010 - 12:12 .

[LostHH]

SurfaceBeneath wrote...

Faster scanning on the PC?

Who scans on the PC when you can just save edit resources in to your game in all of 10 seconds?

Yes, as soon as I finish building mine I will buy this game on pc and do just that.

[Aradace]

GnusmasTHX wrote...

Aradace wrote...

GnusmasTHX wrote...

Aradace wrote...

Jigero wrote...

Lets see

PC version is:
10 dollars Cheaper
Loads Faster
No repeated disc swapping.
Faster Scanning
You can download games saves.

Yes lets sacrifice all that just to play with a controller. Great idea

Annnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnd you seem to forget that it takes a decent rig set up to be able to even play a game like ME or ME2.  SOME people cant afford to spent 2 grand every couple of years on a freaking new computer just so they can "think" they're better than the console community lol.  Unless you personally are going to buy me said new computer every couple of years to keep up with things, you can take your "High and mighty" attitude about the PC version and stuff it.

FFAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIILLLLLLLL.

I got my PC when the 8800GTS came out (someone feel free to throw out a year for that) for $500CAD. A little more than I would have paid for an X360... Years later, probably more than 2, I'm playing Mass Effect 2 on the highest settings with an excellent frame rate. (At maxed settings 19x10)

(Quick Google says my card came out 2007-2008)

Best of all, it's a PC... Not a toy. It only does EVERYTHING.

Yea, Im not paying 500$ for a f***ing graphics card...Just...not....happening...So, the only person who fails here is you sir for trying to make yourself out to be "superior" lol.

READING COMPREHENSION FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFAAAAAAAAAAIIIIIIILLLLLLLLLLLL.

I paid $500 CAD for my ENTIRE computer, genius.

Which not only plays games, it does just about everything else imaginable. Good job make a childish investment on a TOY, rather than something infinitely more useful.

I'm just stating the facts here, I never said, nor made any mention of myself being "superior"... Only that you're wrong about a great deal of things.

No need to erect your "I'm a fanatical Console-user trying frantically to defend my investment with made-up 'facts' and statistics".

I own one, too, you know.

lol you know....It's the people who constantly say things like FAIIIIILLLLL!! and put so much emphasis on it that are actually the failures...Because, they just fail at life in general.  How old are you son? 17? 19? 21?  Because you sure act like your mental age is alot lower.  Again, the only person here who is "failing" is you sir for trying to act all superior.  The more you force the issue, the more you prove my point.  So for your sake, you really should just drop it because all you're doing is making yourself look like an even bigger ass lol

[GnusmasTHX]

Aradace wrote...


lol you know....It's the people who constantly say things like FAIIIIILLLLL!! and put so much emphasis on it that are actually the failures...Because, they just fail at life in general.  How old are you son? 17? 19? 21?  Because you sure act like your mental age is alot lower.  Again, the only person here who is "failing" is you sir for trying to act all superior.  The more you force the issue, the more you prove my point.  So for your sake, you really should just drop it because all you're doing is making yourself look like an even bigger ass lol

Rofl. I'll FFFFFFFFFFAAAAAAAIIIIIIIILLLLLLLL you all I like. (And only someone like yourself would consider it a sign of maturity.)

Clearly you're deserving, seeing as how you've failed to post anything remotely on topic, with this particular discussion.

You've practically admitted that you're wrong when it comes to PC-gaming by resorting to extraneously long personal attacks. As well as your constant need to defend yourself from my apparent "superiority".

Modifié par GnusmasTHX, 26 février 2010 - 12:17 .

[LuPoM]

Dethateer wrote...

PC. Better aiming and graphics. Also, modding.

Quoted.. I have to say also that, after playing ME2 on PC (finished up first on Hardcore Soldier and then Sentinel Insanity and on the third playthrough) and having started a playthrough on Xbox 360 as a Soldier on Insanity I feel it easier than the PC! and I'm even a bad JoyPad aimer/user! I feel far better on the keybaord!

[Selvec_Darkon]

GnusmasTHX wrote...

Aradace wrote...


lol you know....It's the people who constantly say things like FAIIIIILLLLL!! and put so much emphasis on it that are actually the failures...Because, they just fail at life in general.  How old are you son? 17? 19? 21?  Because you sure act like your mental age is alot lower.  Again, the only person here who is "failing" is you sir for trying to act all superior.  The more you force the issue, the more you prove my point.  So for your sake, you really should just drop it because all you're doing is making yourself look like an even bigger ass lol

Rofl. I'll FFFFFFFFFFAAAAAAAIIIIIIIILLLLLLLL you all I like. (And only someone like yourself would consider it a sign of maturity.)

Clearly you're deserving, seeing as how you've failed to post anything remotely on topic, with this particular discussion.

You've practically admitted that you're wrong when it comes to PC-gaming by resorting to extraneously long personal attacks. As well as your constant need to defend yourself from my apparent "superiority".

Oh would you two shut up. Your both acting like five year olds.

[Andaius20]

Aradace wrote...

GnusmasTHX wrote...

Aradace wrote...

Jigero wrote...

Lets see

PC version is:
10 dollars Cheaper
Loads Faster
No repeated disc swapping.
Faster Scanning
You can download games saves.

Yes lets sacrifice all that just to play with a controller. Great idea

Annnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnd you seem to forget that it takes a decent rig set up to be able to even play a game like ME or ME2.  SOME people cant afford to spent 2 grand every couple of years on a freaking new computer just so they can "think" they're better than the console community lol.  Unless you personally are going to buy me said new computer every couple of years to keep up with things, you can take your "High and mighty" attitude about the PC version and stuff it.

FFAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIILLLLLLLL.

I got my PC when the 8800GTS came out (someone feel free to throw out a year for that) for $500CAD. A little more than I would have paid for an X360... Years later, probably more than 2, I'm playing Mass Effect 2 on the highest settings with an excellent frame rate. (At maxed settings 19x10)

(Quick Google says my card came out 2007-2008)

Best of all, it's a PC... Not a toy. It only does EVERYTHING.

Yea, Im not paying 500$ for a f***ing graphics card...Just...not....happening...So, the only person who fails here is you sir for trying to make yourself out to be "superior" lol.

But you'll pay $300 for an Xbox and $300 for the next xbox replacement Console and possible $300 for the NExt one after that while he still just needs that same card to play the games your going to play....nice....

[Aradace]

Andaius20 wrote...

Aradace wrote...

GnusmasTHX wrote...

Aradace wrote...

Jigero wrote...

Lets see

PC version is:
10 dollars Cheaper
Loads Faster
No repeated disc swapping.
Faster Scanning
You can download games saves.

Yes lets sacrifice all that just to play with a controller. Great idea

Annnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnd you seem to forget that it takes a decent rig set up to be able to even play a game like ME or ME2.  SOME people cant afford to spent 2 grand every couple of years on a freaking new computer just so they can "think" they're better than the console community lol.  Unless you personally are going to buy me said new computer every couple of years to keep up with things, you can take your "High and mighty" attitude about the PC version and stuff it.

FFAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIILLLLLLLL.

I got my PC when the 8800GTS came out (someone feel free to throw out a year for that) for $500CAD. A little more than I would have paid for an X360... Years later, probably more than 2, I'm playing Mass Effect 2 on the highest settings with an excellent frame rate. (At maxed settings 19x10)

(Quick Google says my card came out 2007-2008)

Best of all, it's a PC... Not a toy. It only does EVERYTHING.

Yea, Im not paying 500$ for a f***ing graphics card...Just...not....happening...So, the only person who fails here is you sir for trying to make yourself out to be "superior" lol.

But you'll pay $300 for an Xbox and $300 for the next xbox replacement Console and possible $300 for the NExt one after that while he still just needs that same card to play the games your going to play....nice....

My Xbox has lasted me 3 years so far (knock on wood) and is going strong still.  Actually, it's a little closer to 4 years and I have yet to have any kind of maintenence on it.  Graphics cards, from what Ive seen, usually burn out in 2-3 if you push them too hard.  That's only what Ive seen though.  Given, some probably last longer than that but still...If I can make my Xbox last as long as a graphics card, and save 300 bucks in the process, guess which route im taking?

[GnusmasTHX]

Selvec_Darkon wrote...

Oh would you two shut up. Your both acting like five year olds.

I can take the heat, Selvec... But you better watch out. Or you might get one of these in your inbox some time soon.

[Image redacted]

Modifié par GnusmasTHX, 26 février 2010 - 12:49 .

[Aradace]

lol. And this is supposed to accomplish what exactly?

[Balerion84]

Darth_Trethon wrote...

Fact: 360 is better than the PC all day every day for all games across all genres.

Haha good one! You are a funny guy.


There's nothing wrong with X360 version, the PC version just has a lot of advantages, like better graphics, modding/editing, hotkeys (you can play without ever pausing the game to select a power) and you can turn your pc into X360 (playing on tv in a couch with gamepad) if you so desire. As for the requirements, they are low. I have old Core2Duo 1.86Ghz, 8800GT 512MB, 4GB RAM. Running smoothly maxed out. 
As long as your PC can run Crysis on high (or maybe even on medium), there's no worries about console ports as your pc already has as much or even more power than a console. (unless it's a badly optimized port)

I have ME1 for both PC and X360, the PC version is just much better so I went for PC version of ME2 also. In the end it always comes down to personal preference and if those PC advantages are important enough for you.

Modifié par Balerion84, 26 février 2010 - 12:37 .

[Kinthalis ThornBlade]

The xbox 360 is the equivalent of a mid-range gaming PC 6 years ago. It's ancient tech. It should be in a museum. PC's are several GENRATIONS of hardware and software API architecture ahead.

The good news is that even a mid-range gaming PC from 6 years ago can play today's games just fine. Moreover, a modern gaming PC costs under $500 and can play games at much higher resolutions and much higher detail levels that any of the current gen consoles.

Even better not only does it have a better control system for most games, but it's also more flexible. When I play MW2 or ME2 I use my mouse and keyboard, but when I play Dirt 2 I do it on my big screen TV and with a wireless controller from my couch - all on a PC.

PC is the superior platform BECAUSE of the flexibility, the options that we as PC gamers enjoy and appreciate. From a range of graphics and audio options that allows us to customize the experience, to the choice of using a TV or monitor, a mouse + keyboard or a controller, mods, etc. Also more choices as to where and how to get games (all games can be purchased in a store or downloaded via digital download now a days) etc.

If you are a console only gamer you're missing out on a great platform and some incredible PC only games. I would say the same is true of PC only gamers, but it's a more understandable state of affairs. Apart from the Wii which offers something truly different, the PS3 and xbox 360 don't offer much that PC gamers can get behind.

All that being said console gamers shouldn't hate the PC as a platform. You should love it, regardless of whether it's your choice of gaming platform or not. That is because when the consoles finally come out with a next generation (in 3 to 4 years), the hardware and software API's that they will use will be time tested, solid, well developed and well understood by developers. Why? Because they would have been running on millions of PC's for years. Where do you think this generation of console hardware and API's came from? They were in the making on the PC platform for the intervening years between the last gen and the current one.

So PC gamer or not, be happy that PC's continue to push technology and API development. It's the evolutionary mechanism of gaming. It's where the tools that make game development easier and better are created and tested and used. And you will reap the benefits sooner or later. We all will.

Modifié par Kinthalis ThornBlade, 26 février 2010 - 12:46 .

[FlintlockJazz]

Aradace wrote...

My Xbox has lasted me 3 years so far (knock on wood) and is going strong still.  Actually, it's a little closer to 4 years and I have yet to have any kind of maintenence on it.  Graphics cards, from what Ive seen, usually burn out in 2-3 if you push them too hard.  That's only what Ive seen though.  Given, some probably last longer than that but still...If I can make my Xbox last as long as a graphics card, and save 300 bucks in the process, guess which route im taking?

Um, I call bull****?  Unless you have been taking a ****** on one a graphics card lasts just as long as consoles, I mean are you aware that your xbox has a graphics card itself?  So um, if graphics cards only last 2-3 years your xbox is gonna die soon so too...  Graphics cards don't burn out in 2-3 years, anyone who deals with computers can tell you that, so either A you're lying or B you don't actually deal with PCs at all and don't know what you're talking about, in which case you might as well just stop it.

I'm well aware that Aradace is just trolling, but I'm stuck at work on a friday so I'm bored and..well... :innocent:

[Andaius20]

Exactly Kinthalis

Modifié par Andaius20, 26 février 2010 - 12:47 .

[Aradace]

PCs are great, not saying they arent...Hell, we all have them. My arguement is that I or anyone else shouldnt be ridiculed simply because we dont want to go replacing our rigs with the top of the line things that other people can obviously afford. If you can get a good CPU for 500$ somewhere, I'd like to know the name of your dealer because even at best buy the "good" rigs are upwards of around 1000$ And that's with factory graphics card. Upgrade the graphics card and you're easily paying 1200-1300.



And seeing as how my console has lasted just as long as most PCs have so far, I fail to see the "economics" behind it when I can save a few hundred dollars.

[Lonely_Fat_Guy]

i played mass effect 1 on pc and xbox, i for me it was so much more enjoyable on the xbox.
me2 on the xbox is fine, i love the controls, the auto aim is annoing sometimes, im used too playing shooters with a controler, its just getting used too it.
i prefere the xbox because of the tv and controls.
to each there own.