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[TheDFO]

Okay, I'm trying to get the insanity achievment with my Infiltrator, and my teammates are a throw/push leveled Kaiden and an assault rifle/armor leveled Rex (both are mid-high leveled in those skills).

Now, I've always found this fight hard because it's close quarters, poor cover, and you usually aren't leveled enough to use skills more than once or maybe twice, if you're lucky.

Anyway, my first attempt was to run to the right, taking out the geth shock trooper there, than work over and get the rocket trooper, and than work on the remaining shock trooper and the Krogan, as I've found that the geth sniper never really leaves his spot. Oh, I also tried to lift the Krogan and shock trooper who ran left.

Well, this wasn't working because I'd get damaged from the shock trooper who runs to the back of the room, than I wouldn't have much cover for the trooper and Krogan on the left (because one hits you from one side of those...support...things, and the other hits you on the other side.

My next attempt was to run left, and that didn't work (don't know why I thought CQC with a battlemaster was a good idea for an infilitrator).

My last two attempts where to run up the middle, ridding myself of the rocket trooper and sniper, than work backwards. This seemed to work fine, until the krogan and a shock trooper started to advance at teh same time, and I couldn't rid myself of both.

Anyway, what's a good way to take these guys out? My sniper rifle is all but useless because it's not high enough to kill in one or two hits yet, and so I've been working on using a pistol, but it just doesn't work that well to take out the krogan. His high health plus immunit plus barrier plus that regen on death BS, plus the fact that pistols overheat so fast on insanity means I can't really take him down. (or, when I'm about to, he just krogan charges each of us and one-hit-ko's use one at a time).

[Pacifien]

I typically go for the rocket trooper and sniper first, and I try to take them out fast because then I can concentrate on the shock trooper while he's still trying to go for cover. I'll likely use sabotage and overload at this point, but not dampening. I can't take out both the krogan and shock trooper at the same time, so I concentrate on the shock trooper because he'll go down faster. Immunity is my friend at this point, because Wrex will be my only real cover between me and the krogan. I save dampening for the krogan because it is one of the few things that will give him pause. Just make sure not to use your own powers on top of your squadmate's, you want to use one after the other one has worn off. Also, I've always had Kaidan with neural shock because I can't think of anything better to stop a charging krogan.

Modifié par Pacifien, 25 février 2010 - 10:29 .

[Tankkiller1337]

Had the exactly same problem, just as a low level soldier, the thread should be around here somewhere still.



The problem is the Krogan having an insanely huge damage protection plus immunity which makes him almost unkillable. Plus he can practically 2-melee hit you and your teammates.



The only way I made it was somehow glitching him to not rush me. I killed off the Geth (no problem) and was running around a little bit (teammates already down). Then just randomly he just stopped pursuing me and just stood in the middle of the room and shooting. I could then just shoot around the corner and take him out after 5 mins of constantly shooting him.



The toughest fight in the game on insanity and on a low level.



If you had Warp, that would help a lot since it would almost negate the damage reduction the krogan gets...other from that just try running around.

[Karstedt]

Do you and Kaiden both have Sabotage? If you do, you can Sabotage pretty much the whole room right off the bat. Which will let you kill the krogan at the outset if you also have at least 2 powers to disable him with. Ideally, lift before he gets a chance to go anywhere, overload to save time on his shields and give you that slight debuff, and neural shock when he's almost back on his feet (neural shock because even at level 1 it will take him down, throw often won't work against krogan unless it's been leveled up a bit). If you are using the appropriate ammo so that he doesn't regen after death, he should go down just before he gets back to his feet the 2nd time.

Alternatively, and probably the easiest way to do this. Sabotage everything and make a break for that big crate at the entrance that the sniper hides behind. You can take cover behind that crate and you shouldn't get rushed very badly since the krogan doesn't charge until he gets some damage (and maybe if he's the last one left, but I've seen him hide behind his pillar for ages when he's the last one). If the shock trooper comes at you, you can just melee it to the ground when it peeks around the corner and take it down easy. Just make sure you don't go after the krogan until all your powers are recharged, and you sill must do everything possible to make sure he doesn't go immune (by keeping him off his feet), and doesn't regen at death (chemo rounds). Otherwise he will be really hard.

Yeah, people knock neural shock, but it's ability to knock down a krogan for a couple seconds even at its weakest level makes it well worth it for a low level krogan fight. But if Kaiden's throw is enough to topple the krogan, timing it right with the lift should keep him down long enough to finish. And make sure you use the squad commands to "move" when targeting the krogan, if you use that command while the krogan is highlighted, it's a direct attack command to your squad, so they will run up and shoot him with you. With all 3 of you shooting him, he really can go down fast when he's lying down and not immune.

Modifié par Karstedt, 26 février 2010 - 01:39 .

[Ryngard]

Neural Shock is wonderful! Also use the ... green ammo... polonium rounds? They help negate regen.

[The Grey Ranger]

A little more information could be useful here. What level are you, how have you allocated your skill points? What ammo mods have you got available? If you have anything like cryo or incendiary ammo, even proton, anything that will keep the krogan from getting up again. If you have sabotage, make sure the krogan is not in the area of effect (this will more than likely cause him to charge.) If you have damping, it can stun enemies for a few seconds, but it is level dependent. So master is needed to stun the hardest enemies. If I'm not mistaken doesn't Wrex have a point in warp to start (been a while since I've played.)

If all else fails load a save from before Therum and go level up some more, run some side quests, scan some planets. Use the Dr Micheal trick to get enough money to buy some spectre VII guns. Those make a huge difference and 2 sets can be had before you ever leave the citadel.

Modifié par The Grey Ranger, 26 février 2010 - 05:42 .

[The Grey Ranger]

Stupid double post

Modifié par The Grey Ranger, 26 février 2010 - 06:21 .

[The Grey Ranger]

For leveling up an infiltrator for an insanity run, I'd concentrate first on pistol 12 (for master marksman), armor (to 7 or 8), fitness (for immunity and hit points) and of course your class skill, working 4 into spectre as you have points available. After that I'd work on decryption and electronics to 9 and sniper to 12.

My infiltrator builds usually end up like this:

Pistol 12 (early for master marksman)
Sniper 12
Armor 8 (early for medium armor + advanced shield boost and to get fitness unlocked)
Fitness 12 (early for hp + immunity)
Electronics 9
Damping 12
Decryption 9
First Aid 0
Infiltrator/Commando 12 (6 early)
AI Hacking 12 (bonus)
Spectre 4  (early for getting you team back up)

I know running around with a good sniper rifle is fun, but it doesn't have the dps and all around usefulness of a master marksman pistol.  You can have most of the basics in place by around level 18.  You can be 11 or 12 before you leave the Citadel.  I usually don't start running story lines till after I've picked up my advanced class at level 20+  and I save points on the moon to max out the class talent. 

Modifié par The Grey Ranger, 26 février 2010 - 06:24 .

[hangmans tree]

I'm playing infiltrator on hardcore(? - level lower). I had Wrex and Tali with me. I invested in tech abilities. At the beginning I unloaded every tech skill on the bunch (two overloads and all of them are without shields - area of effect), krogan in particular, run myself the oposite dir, hid behind the pillar and started takin'em out while they were concentrated on my team. Shield boost for Tali and that biotic shield for Wrex, weapons mod for stoppin regen. Dampening helps, but overload and sabotage helps more - it gives the chance to eliminate enemies a lot quicker. Dont forget to concentrate fire - order your team to shoot at one target at a time, this saves time to deal with mad krogan.

Another tip, use granades and set them off with overload/sabotage - widens the area of effect and damage if I remember correctly.



Well, I guess you're in the clear already, do tell how it went.

[Jayce]

Use sabtotage right off the bat at end of the cutscene, it should screw both the krogan's shotgun and his immunity.

[TheDFO]

Jayce F wrote...

Use sabtotage right off the bat at end of the cutscene, it should screw both the krogan's shotgun and his immunity.

Except he has a tendency to charge if you do that (at least, krogan's do so in general).

Anyway, I beat it (I by rushing forward, taking those guys out, and then rushing to what was the right to hit the shock trooper. For some reason that last one decided to advance while the krogan didn't, so I was basically three of us (although with most of our powers in some cooldown or another) vs that krogan. I lucked out with some fancy footwork, making him miss his melee 4 times in a row - just long enough for Kaiden to get unity'd and lift him.

Anyway, what are good places to go after the citadel? I'm talking low level places to get some points going (I didn't have a great build, as this playthrough is also about skill use achievements, so I'm working on the tech). I'm probably like lvl 15 or so, but I'm not sure off the top of my head.

[Pacifien]

You might try all of the Armstrong Nebula maybe? Though I always got a massive level boost just doing Feros. Would probably be well past level 20 just doing that planet.

[Devos]

TheDFO wrote...

Except he has a tendency to charge if you do that (at least, krogan's do so in general).

Aye, Sabotage has a tendency of ending the fight very quickly, though usually not in your favour.

[TheDFO]

Pacifien wrote...

You might try all of the Armstrong Nebula maybe? Though I always got a massive level boost just doing Feros. Would probably be well past level 20 just doing that planet.

Really? I feel that level is hard early, especially before you have good CQC built up.

[The Grey Ranger]

Armstrong probably wouldn't be bad, a lot of geth so you wouldn't have to deal with immunity. There will be some new non-combat quests on the citadel after your first storyline planet, though it helps to have your conversation skills up a bit for the best results. The Hades Gamma cluster offers several side quest though some have mercs that will spam immunity or biotics. 

Thresher Maws provide a decent amount of XP and there are several in the game.  I find them fairly easy to kill by either potting them with the Mako, while bouncing over their spit or circle strafing on foot, while being careful to stay out of melee.

Modifié par The Grey Ranger, 27 février 2010 - 05:29 .

[Pacifien]

TheDFO wrote...

Pacifien wrote...

You might try all of the Armstrong Nebula maybe? Though I always got a massive level boost just doing Feros. Would probably be well past level 20 just doing that planet.

Really? I feel that level is hard early, especially before you have good CQC built up.

I've done Feros so many times, I have to admit I've learned to game the system. It doesn't get hard until you're up against the Thorian creepers, and I've learned that no matter what the difficulty, it's really easy to coax them to a choke point. Tell your squad to wait in ambush. Fire a round, and watch the creepers run to your killzone. Rain death.

[AsheraII]

The Krogan after freeing Liara is probably the single hardest fight in the entire game. For me, it always turned out as part skill, part luck.Especially when doing this part at a lower level. The key to this fight is to actually let the Krogan take distance at the start of the fight, so just ignore him while the Geth are still alive. He will try to close in on you again as soon as the Geth are down, so be careful to either kill him FAST once they're down, or keep distance, just taking shots when you can.

[A Blind Bandit]

I had a pretty easy time with it. Soon as the fight started I had Garrus and Tali hit the Krogan with Damping while I turned on Immunity. This negated his own immunity and I was able to kill him fairly quickly with Marksman.

[Karstedt]

I made a little video of how to easily kill him with an Infitrator with Kaidan and Wrex. I didn't bother editing it other than downsampling. The beginning just shows that it's set to insanity and my squad (Wrex and Kaidan) and weapons. The combat starts about half way through after all the dialog I skipped and took me about a minute, half of which is paused issuing orders. If memory serves, I think I got all those charm and intimidate points through the console, but that is the only thing that's not on the level. My builds aren't particularly optimized, you'll see a bunch of what most people would call "wasted" points. So it's not like I built the perfect Shep for this scenario. And I'm only level 15, not the lowest possible at that point, but not the highest either.

It can only be downloaded 10 times because I'm too lazy to make a proper account. You can check it out here rapidshare.com/files/357102665/ME_Inf_Ins_K_W.rar.html

Modifié par Karstedt, 28 février 2010 - 03:49 .

[Shanra]

I did this fight, but I think I was on Hardcore. I did it on insanity on a different char though. Was kinda funny. I rushed forward on my infiltrator to kill the two geth in front of me, while Garrus and Kaidan were killing things. I turned around, sniped one of the Geth in front, and one to the left, and.. the fight was over. I have no idea what happened to the Krogan. I never even saw him.



I 'm just going to assume Wrex and Kaidan took him out fast!

[Zaxares]

I beat this guy on Insanity last night. It was... anti-climatic. My team was myself as a Soldier, specialising in pure weapon damage (Spectre Training, Commando, Assault Training etc.), Tali for tech abilities, and Wrex for biotics.



At the start of the battle, I had Tali hack one of the Geth Shock Troopers near the back. The Battlemaster instantly ran over and tried to pummel him to death. That gave me the time I needed to wipe out a few of his buddies, and then turn my attention to the Battlemaster. Used Wrex's Throw on him to knock him on his ass, pumped him full of lead until he stood up, then used my Neural Shock bonus talent on him to sit him down again and continue riddling his helpless body with slugs.



The battle was over within about 20 seconds. Nobody in my party had taken any damage apart from some shield damage. Ironically, I had a tougher time in the fight at Chora's Den.

[The Grey Ranger]

Yep, AI hacking can really make that battle rather simple since it get them all to concentrate on each other rather than you.



It can turn it from a rough fight into time to go have a beer.

[Karstedt]

I like to hack the rocket trooper or sniper if I have it. Gotta be careful not to sabotage it in that case though. It's much better to let it blast something.