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Why is tali such a damsel in distress?


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The_Zoomer_Knight

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It seems to be the Quarian condition.

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Hell, Tali saved my ass way to many times to count back in Mass Effect 1, you see I am a reckless heroic, so some Krogan would charge Tali and I would get in the way, I'd shoot him in the face with a shotgun, and punch him a couple of times, but then he'd knock my ass down and start kicking the **** out of me, then Tali would kill him with a Tech grenade. We look out for each other, a true team.

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Tali does nothing but get in the way. I wanted to recruit her in ME2 just to play every mission but through the duration of both games I never willingly had her on my squad. A nice rocket to the face makes sure she isn't around in ME3...

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LuckyIronAxe wrote...

Hell, Tali saved my ass way to many times to count back in Mass Effect 1, you see I am a reckless heroic, so some Krogan would charge Tali and I would get in the way, I'd shoot him in the face with a shotgun, and punch him a couple of times, but then he'd knock my ass down and start kicking the **** out of me, then Tali would kill him with a Tech grenade. We look out for each other, a true team.


Man, I miss those tech mines.

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Tali is useful as her little robot keeps the attention of enemies off my Vanguard as I rush into them at charging speed.

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Well, at least she doesn't look like that damsel in distress she seems to be at first like, I don't know, LIARA maybe =3

Not that I don't like her, in fact I like her, specially on ME2, but ME1 Liara is by far more "damsel in distress" than Tali ever is. Hell, the "oh, i'm sorry, i'm exhausted for looking at someone's mind when Shiala gave you the Cypher without that much trouble, can I go now?".

At least Tali really looks like an strong character, psicologically -.-

EDIT:

Oh, and yes, Tali's drone is one of the most badass powers of ME2 for a Vanguard.

EDIT2: Liara is more damsel in distress than Liara? WTF? I need to stop playing ME2 this much.

Modifié par Knoll Argonar, 25 février 2010 - 11:58 .


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Yea a shotgun to an enemies face. Well yea that's pretty useless.


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Gavinthelocust wrote...

Well they had to make her the damsel because Liara was too busy being unlikable.


Unlikable, my posterior...

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If Tali is the damsel in distress, then you should call Ashley the Faux Action girl. Seriously, she is the girl that acts all tough but she never does anything that badass and always needs rescuing.

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Knoll Argonar wrote...

Well, at least she doesn't look like that damsel in distress she seems to be at first like, I don't know, LIARA maybe =3

Not that I don't like her, in fact I like her, specially on ME2, but ME1 Liara is by far more "damsel in distress" than Tali ever is. Hell, the "oh, i'm sorry, i'm exhausted for looking at someone's mind when Shiala gave you the Cypher without that much trouble, can I go now?".

At least Tali really looks like an strong character, psicologically -.-

EDIT:

Oh, and yes, Tali's drone is one of the most badass powers of ME2 for a Vanguard.

EDIT2: Liara is more damsel in distress than Liara? WTF? I need to stop playing ME2 this much.


Shepard saved Liara on Therum
Liara saved Shepards body in ME:Redemption

1:1

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Barquiel wrote...

Knoll Argonar wrote...

Well, at least she doesn't look like that damsel in distress she seems to be at first like, I don't know, LIARA maybe =3

Not that I don't like her, in fact I like her, specially on ME2, but ME1 Liara is by far more "damsel in distress" than Tali ever is. Hell, the "oh, i'm sorry, i'm exhausted for looking at someone's mind when Shiala gave you the Cypher without that much trouble, can I go now?".

At least Tali really looks like an strong character, psicologically -.-

EDIT:

Oh, and yes, Tali's drone is one of the most badass powers of ME2 for a Vanguard.

EDIT2: Liara is more damsel in distress than Liara? WTF? I need to stop playing ME2 this much.


Shepard saved Liara on Therum
Liara saved Shepards body in ME:Redemption

1:1




Shepard saved Liara from getting her coffee poisoned by her assistant.

Shepard will save Liara when she gets kidnapped by the Shadow Broker

3:1

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shepard saves everyone.

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Garrus could have got that woman killed but I wouldn't say you saved him. Same for Wrex.

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OverlordNexas wrote...

Shepard saved Liara from getting her coffee poisoned by her assistant.

Shepard will save Liara when she gets kidnapped by the Shadow Broker

3:1


Maybe Shepard gets kidnapped by the SB in ME3;)

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Highdragonslayer wrote...

ME1: Save her from assasins

ME2: Save her from heavy mech

ME2: Save her from geth

ME2: Save her from exile

ME3: Save her from fire breathing reaper, while she is trapped in a tower?




Except on Heavy Mech situation she was not in danger, she could run away if possible. Her squad was the one that was in trouble, because they screwed up and started doing their own thing instead of following orders, and got squashed by heavy mech. Tali herself followed the situation from safety and helped wounded. If Cerberus wasnt there to cause disturbance amongst Tali's squad, things might have gone differently.

Otherwise, yeah. She seems to be in some sort of trouble. ME1 with assassins, Geth and exile on ME2. But you have to write a story somehow, Tali just fits in distress situations. And 3 isnt that much. Liara has been saved 2 by now.

Modifié par MaaZeus, 26 février 2010 - 12:10 .


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The Angry One wrote...

Aisynia wrote...

scxenophobe wrote...

Because the quarian military sucks.


Yes. Yes it does.


Kal'Reegar makes this point invalid.

Exception that proves the rule?

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OverlordNexas wrote...

Barquiel wrote...

Knoll Argonar wrote...

Well, at least she doesn't look like that damsel in distress she seems to be at first like, I don't know, LIARA maybe =3

Not that I don't like her, in fact I like her, specially on ME2, but ME1 Liara is by far more "damsel in distress" than Tali ever is. Hell, the "oh, i'm sorry, i'm exhausted for looking at someone's mind when Shiala gave you the Cypher without that much trouble, can I go now?".

At least Tali really looks like an strong character, psicologically -.-

EDIT:

Oh, and yes, Tali's drone is one of the most badass powers of ME2 for a Vanguard.

EDIT2: Liara is more damsel in distress than Liara? WTF? I need to stop playing ME2 this much.


Shepard saved Liara on Therum
Liara saved Shepards body in ME:Redemption

1:1




Shepard saved Liara from getting her coffee poisoned by her assistant.

Shepard will save Liara when she gets kidnapped by the Shadow Broker

3:1


LoL...

No, but srsly:

...but ME1 Liara is by far more "damsel in distress" than Tali ever is.


Some people need to relax and read peacefully. I said I liked ME2 Liara, specially because of what she did to let Cerberus ressurrect me/shepard (until I discovered that, I though Liara was a B*tch like her mother xD Time corrected me).

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Virginian wrote...

The Angry One wrote...

Aisynia wrote...

scxenophobe wrote...

Because the quarian military sucks.


Yes. Yes it does.


Kal'Reegar makes this point invalid.

Exception that proves the rule?


Kal'Reegar owns! But Kal'Reegar himself admits that Quarians are not good frontline fighters (for obvious reasons), they have to fight smart and preferably from orbit. They get their arses kicked otherwise, if not by bullets then by bad infections they might get from wounds.

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MaaZeus wrote...

Virginian wrote...

The Angry One wrote...

Aisynia wrote...

scxenophobe wrote...

Because the quarian military sucks.


Yes. Yes it does.


Kal'Reegar makes this point invalid.

Exception that proves the rule?


Kal'Reegar owns! But Kal'Reegar himself admits that Quarians are not good frontline fighters (for obvious reasons), they have to fight smart and preferably from orbit. They get their arses kicked otherwise, if not by bullets then by bad infections they might get from wounds.

Well fighting from the orbit didn't seem to have turned out well in the Morning War either.

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yeah..shepard must be exhausted in the energy he spends saving her he could have gotten a more competent tech squadmate

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LuckyIronAxe wrote...

Hell, Tali saved my ass way to many times to count back in Mass Effect 1, you see I am a reckless heroic, so some Krogan would charge Tali and I would get in the way, I'd shoot him in the face with a shotgun, and punch him a couple of times, but then he'd knock my ass down and start kicking the **** out of me, then Tali would kill him with a Tech grenade. We look out for each other, a true team.


Exactly this. Believe me, the scorecard is even.

And no, you don't save her from the heavy mech in ME2. You try to save her idiot teammates. Mechs never give Tali trouble. Hell she was hacking Geth Turrets in ME1 and taking out entire lines of em in the endgame.

Modifié par Cutlass Jack, 26 février 2010 - 12:20 .


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The_Zoomer_Knight wrote...

It seems to be the Quarian condition.


Yes, it seems that almost every Quarian needs to be rescued. Usually from their own stupidity. I don't think there was a single competent Quarian in Mass Effect 2, aside from;

The Angry One wrote...

Kal'Reegar


But even he further compounds just how useless Quarians are when you listen to his dialogue about the Quarian military on the Flotilla.

Gabey5 wrote...

yeah..shepard must be exhausted in the energy he spends saving her he could have gotten a more competent tech squadmate



He did. It's called Legion.

Sniper > Shotgun

Modifié par Internet Kraken, 26 février 2010 - 12:32 .


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Shepard & Tali relationship is no different from Link and Zelda or Mario and Peach

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Internet Kraken wrote...

He did. It's called Legion.

Sniper > Shotgun


Not in my Vanguard play-style.

The more people in the first battle line the better, keeps enemy distracted from you, free to Shotgun in the face some people. Snipers are usually just ignored. I usually pick Tali or Grunt to get that job done, then some Barrier-destroyer like Thane, Garrus or Miranda.

Oh, and Tali is some serious Killing machine with the Shotgun if you position her correctly =)

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Virginian wrote...

The Angry One wrote...

Aisynia wrote...

scxenophobe wrote...

Because the quarian military sucks.


Yes. Yes it does.


Kal'Reegar makes this point invalid.

Exception that proves the rule?


Not really. Talis father, Rael, and that other admiral were bad-ass before they even got on their pilgrimage. They stole a ship and destroyed a pirate attack by themselves. :police:


Also, the Quarian flotilla is probably better for fighting the Reapers than an army of Krogans. Unless Krogans can fly in space, they'd need a giant space fleet of their own to be real help against the Reapers.

Modifié par magnuskn, 26 février 2010 - 01:27 .