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[Gairten]

As an infiltrator on insanity... can I just ignore incinerate and max out reave instead? 

I plan to use reave as a bonus power for reasons listed in other threads, I'm not trying to rehash if this is a good bonus power, only if it's a viable substitute for incinerate.  Thanks!

[SmilingMirror]

no idea, but Incinerate is a decent power, i can tell you that much.

[rumination888]

Yes. It is a viable substitute. Theres some minor differences between the two, but if you want to use your bonus power slot on Reave, then you don't really need to spend points on Incinerate.

[nofanboy]

But incinerate looks so much cooler shooting out of your hand.    That's just personal preference.  I like powers that travel from my body to my target.  Makes me feel like I actually did something, especially as a finishing move, but I'm funny that way.

Btw, incinerate benefits from the class cool down bonus, which reave doesn't so you can spam it a bit faster.  But I agree reave is a decent sub. 

[JWCbox]

It seems pointless when you could get geth shield boost, which boosts your shield while increasing your damage and benefitting from your tech cooldowns, or energy drain, which works similarly. Having reave is a waste of a bonus while you already have incinerate.

[nofanboy]

JWCbox wrote...

It seems pointless when you could get geth shield boost, which boosts your shield while increasing your damage and benefitting from your tech cooldowns, or energy drain, which works similarly. Having reave is a waste of a bonus while you already have incinerate.

I guess you missed the part in TC's post that he's not trying to rehash if this is a good bonus power, only
if it's a viable substitute for incinerate, which, btw, it is. 

[PatchWorks]

JohnnyDollar wrote...



Incinerate is nice, but you can use reave on anything. Whereas incinerate their shields/barriers have to be down first.

That's wrong. You can use Incinerate on anything.



On barriers it will only do 1.5x damage compared to Reave's 2.0x damage. Against armor, however, Incinerate will do 2.4x damage compared to Reave's 2.0x damage. They both stun organics in health momentarily and both prevent health regeneration from Krogan and Vorcha etc.



Basically, Reave will do more damage against barriers while Incinerate will make up that damage gap against armor (for the most part). Also they differ in delivery method (Incinerate is a homing projectile, while Reave is line of sight insta hit).



That being said, if you already have Incinerate you're probably better off getting another bonus power. Most enemies on Insanity have armor, whereas barrier is much less prevalent (limited to vanguards and collectors pretty much), so you're going to have more efficiency with Incinerate. If, barriers really bug you that much you could always grab warp ammo rather than waste your cooldown on a redundant power like Reave.

[Atmosfear3]

nofanboy wrote...

JWCbox wrote...

It seems pointless when you could get geth shield boost, which boosts your shield while increasing your damage and benefitting from your tech cooldowns, or energy drain, which works similarly. Having reave is a waste of a bonus while you already have incinerate.

I guess you missed the part in TC's post that he's not trying to rehash if this is a good bonus power, only
if it's a viable substitute for incinerate, which, btw, it is. 

Not to mention shield powers are awful, especially for classes that specialize with weapons as opposed to using powers only.  Besides, as an infiltrator you don't hunker down with a shield when you've already got cloak.

[Kurupt87]

reave is a viable sub, not as gd vs armour as incinerate but doubles as an anti barrier skill which engineer lacks. incinerate gets no bonus vs barrier, it does get 1.5 modifier against shields though, but thats neither here nor there as you have overload for shields. like someone posted, reave wont benefit from your cd/duration passive bonus as that its only for tech skills. not massively experienced on engi, do you need points in incinerate to unlock anything? if so then getting reave is of less worth, as you'd need to "waste" points in incinerate.

[Radahldo]

overload unlocks incinerate, so you could avoid putting points into incinerate if you wanted.

[Kurupt87]

lol, just read op again and realised the OP is an infiltrator. sorry for erroneous information.

reave is a universally good skill and is viable on all classes really. however, the infiltrator i would have thought would benefit more from an extra ammo power, whether you are a sniping infi or smg'er, most/all your dmg is coming from your weapons, with cd's used on cloak for dmg boost/repositioning. personally i'd alternate between warp and ap ammo depending on the mission, switching between whichever i picked and disruptor according to your enemies defences.

[Average Gatsby]

Why not just take Warp Ammo instead of Reave? Your going to be using your guns more than anything, and Warp will cover the damage bonus against Barriers/Armor. Also I would like to point out that Incinerate is the strongest anti-armor ability, because its multiplier is 2.4. Reave is good but the Infiltrator is at its best shooting its guns.

[rumination888]

Ammo power doesn't matter for an Infiltrator. Its all overkill.

www.youtube.com/watch

As I said earlier, if he wants to take Reave as his bonus power, then yes, it is a viable substitute for Incinerate.

[Arhka]

Reave can do the job of Incinerate, plus giving you a little bit of extra durability on organics. Heal comes in useful at times.

[baller7345]

JohnnyDollar wrote...

PatchWorks wrote...

JohnnyDollar wrote...

Incinerate is nice, but you can use reave on anything. Whereas incinerate their shields/barriers have to be down first.

That's wrong. You can use Incinerate on anything.

Right, I was thinking of when you pop up the hud that you can't use it.  But you can use it from a quick slot.

You can use it from the hud it is just red because it isn't the most effective power on that particular type of protection.  It doesn't stop you from using it.

[Firesteel]

I would say incinerate is good enough, either warp or AP ammo for more versatility, on insanity I would just skip AI Hacking, everything is protected and it's not worth it to hack stuff when their health is so low. Reave would work, but it does not benefit from the class skill.

[Gairten]

Thanks to all for the good advice! I ended up going with AP Ammo and not doing reave. Beat insanity pretty quickly and enjoyed it quite a bit.

As a side note, now I am using reave as a bonus power for the first time, but on my insanity sentinel as a warp alternative. A much better place for it than infiltrator to be sure.

Modifié par Gairten, 04 mars 2010 - 06:58 .