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[crozdetta]

i hope there is depth to these missions and not just an elaborate version of "Defender 2" from NES

[RGFrog]

Thanks, Bioware.



Now, if you'd include some sort of upgrade path to the other armor/weapons from the pre-orders, rather than ebay, I'd be one content customer



Hopefully there will be more (pay to play or otherwise) content added or ME3 released SOON. I'm about to start another playthrough and would much rather play a new game.

[TornadoADV]

It seems as soon as "Free" is slapped onto something, everybody's brain basically shuts-off and nobody not fooled by the "Free" is hounded by all the fanboys.

[Commander Darmok]

TornadoADV wrote...

It seems as soon as "Free" is slapped onto something, everybody's brain basically shuts-off and nobody not fooled by the "Free" is hounded by all the fanboys.

What do you mean by "not fooled?"  I mean, let's concede that everything up until this point (hammerhead included) was initially in the game, and then cut for polish.  They let you play the story right away, and now they're giving you the cut content back a little later.  It's free, so it's not like it's any skin off your back.

Do I hope it doesn't suck?  Of course!  Could it?  After PS - absolutely.  I can't judge until I play it.  However, unlike PS, if it does suck, oh well.  I didn't pay for it.

On the other hand, let's say it's awesome.  Wouldn't you be glad they took the extra time to polish it up?  I'm not going to say the side missions in ME2 are gold mines, and Keelah knows there's too much reading to be done in them,  but at least they're different.  As far as I know, I didn't repeat a map once.  In the first ME, the side missions were so exactly alike that they all just blurred together.  I would forget which ones I had done because they were all exactly the same thing.  Some of them were good, but most weren't.  Quality>quantity. 

Finally, a question to everyone - I think it's clear that much of the dlc was at least planned before the game shipped, and partially implemented.  At what point in the new dlc do we begin to give them credit for NEW content?

P.S.  BW - I really hope that the DA dlc was a practice run.  PLEASE give us an expansion for ME2! 

[ThrokRock]

Commander Darmok wrote...

At what point in the new dlc do we begin to give them credit for NEW content?

...when you have to start paying for it, most likely.

[granattomten]

I'm very interested in seeing what the "mission pack" means. To me it sounds like it's one quite long mission in which we will be able to use the Hammerhead. But I hope that it's a string of missions relating to a specific story line AND that we will get the Hammerhead and missions to go with that. Doubtful though.

[GodEmperorAR]

granattomten wrote...

I'm very interested in seeing what the "mission pack" means. To me it sounds like it's one quite long mission in which we will be able to use the Hammerhead. But I hope that it's a string of missions relating to a specific story line AND that we will get the Hammerhead and missions to go with that. Doubtful though.

The info states its 5 missions.

Great news, cant wait. Keep it coming Bioware

[trickfred]

Commander Darmok wrote...

...and Keelah knows there's too much reading to be done in them...

Please rephrase that to "there's too much reading for me", since it's opinion, and not fact. Not fact at all.

Some of us like to read, and would posit that there was, in fact, not nearly enough reading.

[Sullax]

This post contributes to the hype.

[TornadoADV]

Commander Darmok wrote...

TornadoADV wrote...

It seems as soon as "Free" is slapped onto something, everybody's brain basically shuts-off and nobody not fooled by the "Free" is hounded by all the fanboys.

What do you mean by "not fooled?"  I mean, let's concede that everything up until this point (hammerhead included) was initially in the game, and then cut for polish.  They let you play the story right away, and now they're giving you the cut content back a little later.  It's free, so it's not like it's any skin off your back.

Do I hope it doesn't suck?  Of course!  Could it?  After PS - absolutely.  I can't judge until I play it.  However, unlike PS, if it does suck, oh well.  I didn't pay for it.

On the other hand, let's say it's awesome.  Wouldn't you be glad they took the extra time to polish it up?  I'm not going to say the side missions in ME2 are gold mines, and Keelah knows there's too much reading to be done in them,  but at least they're different[/i].  As far as I know, I didn't repeat a map once.  In the first ME, the side missions were so exactly alike that they all just blurred together.  I would forget which ones I had done because they were all exactly the same thing.  Some of them were good, but most weren't.  Quality>quantity. 

Finally, a question to everyone - I think it's clear that much of the dlc was at least planned before the game shipped, and partially implemented.  At what point in the new dlc do we begin to give them credit for NEW content?

P.S.  BW - I really hope that the DA dlc was a practice run.  PLEASE give us an expansion for ME2! 

I trust that the mission packs will be well polished and bug free, what I'm concerned about is the fact that they may be more linear corridor shooters and that just boggles my mind, we aren't in the Mako, we're in a HOVERTANK as in something capable of limited flight to traverse obstacles. There is no excuse to give us a glorified on-rails shooter. (Which most main missions were in ME1 that allowed the Mako.)

But I'm not allowed to say that because most of the people that bother to post on these forums are those that like the direction that ME2 took. So I and a couple others that played and preferred ME1's set-up are going to be shouted down with insults and spamming.

[DarknessBear]

Why the hell can't I **** about this DLC? "BECAUSE IT'S FREE" It's not free. I paid 80 bucks for Mass Effect 2 and it did NOT come with planet exploration that I loved in the first game. I was told it would be put in later (because they did not have time to QA the hammerhead) and now it is shown and it is still NOT the exploration I wanted. It's essentially a different skin for Shepard (minus the squad, skills and tactical combat) going down corridors shooting things. I was bummed by the decrease in scale in this game (which is what I loved most in ME1) and they are not fixing that, which is what I hoped.

TornadoADV wrote...

Commander Darmok wrote...

TornadoADV wrote...

It seems as soon as "Free" is slapped onto something, everybody's brain basically shuts-off and nobody not fooled by the "Free" is hounded by all the fanboys.

What do you mean by "not fooled?"  I mean, let's concede that everything up until this point (hammerhead included) was initially in the game, and then cut for polish.  They let you play the story right away, and now they're giving you the cut content back a little later.  It's free, so it's not like it's any skin off your back.

Do I hope it doesn't suck?  Of course!  Could it?  After PS - absolutely.  I can't judge until I play it.  However, unlike PS, if it does suck, oh well.  I didn't pay for it.

On the other hand, let's say it's awesome.  Wouldn't you be glad they took the extra time to polish it up?  I'm not going to say the side missions in ME2 are gold mines, and Keelah knows there's too much reading to be done in them,  but at least they're different[/i].  As far as I know, I didn't repeat a map once.  In the first ME, the side missions were so exactly alike that they all just blurred together.  I would forget which ones I had done because they were all exactly the same thing.  Some of them were good, but most weren't.  Quality>quantity.  

Finally, a question to everyone - I think it's clear that much of the dlc was at least planned before the game shipped, and partially implemented.  At what point in the new dlc do we begin to give them credit for NEW content?

P.S.  BW - I really hope that the DA dlc was a practice run.  PLEASE give us an expansion for ME2! 

I trust that the mission packs will be well polished and bug free, what I'm concerned about is the fact that they may be more linear corridor shooters and that just boggles my mind, we aren't in the Mako, we're in a HOVERTANK as in something capable of limited flight to traverse obstacles. There is no excuse to give us a glorified on-rails shooter. (Which most main missions were in ME1 that allowed the Mako.)

But I'm not allowed to say that because most of the people that bother to post on these forums are those that like the direction that ME2 took. So I and a couple others that played and preferred ME1's set-up are going to be shouted down with insults and spamming.

100% agreed. I can not express my opinion because, "IT IS FREE". Some of us ARE disappointed and held off our judgements of the exploration in ME2 because THIS DLC was promised to subside that. But it has not. And anyone with more than a weeks worth of game knowledge can tell from the screenshots that it is NOT explorable worlds, but a linear shooter with homing missles.. I'll eat my game box if it is not and film it for all to see.

Modifié par DarknessBear, 26 février 2010 - 10:20 .

[Z-Dragon]

end of March? That's just after my birthday! Thanks for remembering this year bioware!

[falloutgod13]

cerberus1701 wrote...

Izuu93 wrote...

falloutgod13 wrote...

Yeah, you heard me right. I want more DLC and I would buy it if it was available. Like return to Ost.. yeah, um whatever did happen to that one? So don't be calling me ungrateful. I'm annoyed that there was all this hype about DLC and coming out sooner or later. Now it's much much much later and there isn't much DLC. I don't mind paying for it. I'm not broke and I have a job. Plus I'm studying so that when the economy shapes up I can get a better job. Then there's some person who can't scrape together 40 dollars and calls me ungrateful. Sounds lazy to me.

it's not that i can't, it's that i probably shouldn't, and you are ungrateful, the games been out less then a month and they're already announcing a DLC with 5 missions in it, which is a helluva lot more then anyone else out there usually does. so take the criticism you deserve.

Agreed.

"Much much later?" What? The game was out Jan 26th and you got a new mission and new character.

Free

A couple weeks later you got a new armor and weapon.

Free

Now you get a definitive date on a new 5 mission pack and a new heavy weapon.

Free

What did you expect? 15 hour expansion packs every month until ME3?

WTF do you want? Better question, where the hell do you get off with this sense of persoanl entitlement?

Nobody gives a rodent's posterior if you have a job or the money to spend because that's not the point. The point is that Bioware really doesn't owe you jack squat but the game, yet you seem to think that you're not only owed much more, but owed it according to your timetable.

Ungrateful schmuck. 

That's right, my timetable demands you appease me... NOW!!! 

[Halie Star]

The news is awesome, can't wait. Thanks Chris 4 the news.

[Brixxer600]

More DLC on the way and it's free sounds great to me.

Thank you Bioware

[cerberus1701]

Quote: Why the hell can't I **** about this DLC? "BECAUSE IT'S FREE" It's not free. I paid 80 bucks for Mass Effect 2 and it did NOT come with planet exploration that I loved in the first game. I was told it would be put in later (because they did not have time to QA the hammerhead) and now it is shown and it is still NOT the exploration I wanted. It's essentially a different skin for Shepard (minus the squad, skills and tactical combat) going down corridors shooting things. I was bummed by the decrease in scale in this game (which is what I loved most in ME1) and they are not fixing that, which is what I hoped.

**********

Where to begin?

 * It's not free. I paid 80 bucks for Mass Effect 2
 
Sure it is. If you hadn't paid $80 to buy it you'd not even have a reason to download the DLC. The DLC comes as an addition to the game.


* and it did NOT come with planet exploration that I loved in the first game.

Newsflash: You're not in the majority and I'll wager you're not even in a plurality. I'd rather scan 1,000 worlds than go down on another one of those cut and paste environments so I can trudge over 20 mountain peaks to find a freaking ID tag.


* I was told it would be put in later (because they did not have time to QA the hammerhead) and now it is shown and it is still NOT the exploration I wanted.

Please link to where a Bioware spokesman said it was  the exploration you wanted. You heard "vehicle" and "planet" and assumed. No one can be faulted for the fact that you're ticked off because the facts don't mesh with the idea that you created in your own mind.

* I was bummed by the decrease in scale in this game.
 
Scale has not been decresed in this game. At all. The planet grinding in the MAKO isn't "scale" It isn't "scale" just because you have a large environment. Not when that environment is essentially empty.

You're lamenting the loss of a more elaborate time sink. Nothing more. 

Modifié par cerberus1701, 26 février 2010 - 10:37 .

[Chromie]

This is dissappointing.

I was hoping to fight a Godzilla type creature or whatever that red things is that puts Crawlers for us to fight during Grunt's loyalty mission! =O

[TommyPrey09]

Thx for the Hammer, could bioware make a minigun heavy weapon, that would be f*cking awesome.

[Busomjack]

Only problem with this is that it comes out around the same time as Dragon Age Awakening. I hate playing a great game while another collects dust.

[Tasker]

DarknessBear wrote...

Why the hell can't I **** about this DLC? "BECAUSE IT'S FREE" It's not free. I paid 80 bucks for Mass Effect 2 and it did NOT come with planet exploration that I loved in the first game. I was told it would be put in later (because they did not have time to QA the hammerhead) and now it is shown and it is still NOT the exploration I wanted. It's essentially a different skin for Shepard (minus the squad, skills and tactical combat) going down corridors shooting things. I was bummed by the decrease in scale in this game (which is what I loved most in ME1) and they are not fixing that, which is what I hoped.

TornadoADV wrote...

Commander Darmok wrote...

TornadoADV wrote...

It seems as soon as "Free" is slapped onto something, everybody's brain basically shuts-off and nobody not fooled by the "Free" is hounded by all the fanboys.

What do you mean by "not fooled?"  I mean, let's concede that everything up until this point (hammerhead included) was initially in the game, and then cut for polish.  They let you play the story right away, and now they're giving you the cut content back a little later.  It's free, so it's not like it's any skin off your back.

Do I hope it doesn't suck?  Of course!  Could it?  After PS - absolutely.  I can't judge until I play it.  However, unlike PS, if it does suck, oh well.  I didn't pay for it.

On the other hand, let's say it's awesome.  Wouldn't you be glad they took the extra time to polish it up?  I'm not going to say the side missions in ME2 are gold mines, and Keelah knows there's too much reading to be done in them,  but at least they're different[/i].  As far as I know, I didn't repeat a map once.  In the first ME, the side missions were so exactly alike that they all just blurred together.  I would forget which ones I had done because they were all exactly the same thing.  Some of them were good, but most weren't.  Quality>quantity.  

Finally, a question to everyone - I think it's clear that much of the dlc was at least planned before the game shipped, and partially implemented.  At what point in the new dlc do we begin to give them credit for NEW content?

P.S.  BW - I really hope that the DA dlc was a practice run.  PLEASE give us an expansion for ME2! 

I trust that the mission packs will be well polished and bug free, what I'm concerned about is the fact that they may be more linear corridor shooters and that just boggles my mind, we aren't in the Mako, we're in a HOVERTANK as in something capable of limited flight to traverse obstacles. There is no excuse to give us a glorified on-rails shooter. (Which most main missions were in ME1 that allowed the Mako.)

But I'm not allowed to say that because most of the people that bother to post on these forums are those that like the direction that ME2 took. So I and a couple others that played and preferred ME1's set-up are going to be shouted down with insults and spamming.

100% agreed. I can not express my opinion because, "IT IS FREE". Some of us ARE disappointed and held off our judgements of the exploration in ME2 because THIS DLC was promised to subside that. But it has not. And anyone with more than a weeks worth of game knowledge can tell from the screenshots that it is NOT explorable worlds, but a linear shooter with homing missles.. I'll eat my game box if it is not and film it for all to see.

OK, i've had a bit to drink, so this may go off on one...


The more I look at those pictures, the more I think about it, You are totally spot on. 

To me it's starting to look like the missions are going to be the standard pointless N7 on rails over in 30 seconds crap that we currently have, only Shepard has turned into a flying car.  And I bet they haven't even tried to integrate it into the main story somehow.

People that feel the game was rushed out and unfinished keep getting shouted down, but Bioware  themselves have said the DLC being released is stuff cut from the game because they didn't have time.

Bioware used to have a slogan...  "We'll release it when it's finished."

Why does it feel like it seems they've changed it to...  "Stuff it, It'll do."

For some reason, the whole thing comes across as something like -  the devs that started the game all fecked off to work on Star Wars, leaving the half trained trainees to finish up.

I really hope i'm wrong, but upto now, for me, Bioware have really screwed up with ME2.

It could have been a fantastic game, instead it's just a good game.  And I really am sadened by that.


-EDIT-

Bloody hell... I'll have to post slightly drunk more often, my spelling's improved.

Modifié par Orkboy, 26 février 2010 - 10:56 .

[GravyTrader]

What was the point of the Kodiak, when upon release we could of landed at every mission in style

It was a shame that the tank wasn't incorporated into any Collector Mission

Sheperd- "I will tear you apart"
*Hammerhead  swoops down ripping a collector's head clean off*

Modifié par GravyTrader, 26 février 2010 - 10:59 .

[scr280]

cant wait for it

[TheBestClass]

Cerberus: "Whoops, we forgot to give him the tank. Oh well, give it to him after the suicide mission as a reward."

[DarknessBear]

cerberus1701 wrote...
*********

Where to begin?

 * It's not free. I paid 80 bucks for Mass Effect 2
 
Sure it is. If you hadn't paid $80 to buy it you'd not even have a reason to download the DLC. The DLC comes as an addition to the game.


* and it did NOT come with planet exploration that I loved in the first game.

Newsflash: You're not in the majority and I'll wager you're not even in a plurality. I'd rather scan 1,000 worlds than go down on another one of those cut and paste environments so I can trudge over 20 mountain peaks to find a freaking ID tag.


* I was told it would be put in later (because they did not have time to QA the hammerhead) and now it is shown and it is still NOT the exploration I wanted.

Please link to where a Bioware spokesman said it was  the exploration you wanted. You heard "vehicle" and "planet" and assumed. No one can be faulted for the fact that you're ticked off because the facts don't mesh with the idea that you created in your own mind.

* I was bummed by the decrease in scale in this game.
 
Scale has not been decresed in this game. At all. The planet grinding in the MAKO isn't "scale" It isn't "scale" just because you have a large environment. Not when that environment is essentially empty.

You're lamenting the loss of a more elaborate time sink. Nothing more. 

I'm not really sure about the first point you made about the price I spent. But, I do have a right to critique what they have shown so far and I'm disappointed in what I have seen. 

And I'm not saying bring back the Mako exactly how it was - I'm saying evolve the concept. Like it or not, the Mako scenes (exploring planets) made the game feel BIGGER - although clunky. They started to get it right with the DLC "Bring Down the Sky" where the world was much more pleasant to look at and it provided some interesting depth. What I was hoping for is they would expand even further and fix the problems with the mako; floaty controls, small degree of fire, bugs galore. And provide the perfect planet exploration experience. 

I'm fascinated with astronomy and being able to visit these planets and experience the different climates and coming across ancient artifacts with often times stories behind them was what made ME1 really unique and helped make the Universe seem like an expansive world filled with a multitude of places. Now it just seems like a bunch of arenas strapped together with some interesting menu navigation... 

Mass Effect is an odd genre and people are going to like different things about it, I happen to love the enriched history of the game and the vast expansive universe. I was bummed out to see that was removed and my only salvation was the Hammerhead brining some back... and it was not. 

And WHY did I think it would be this? Mostly blind hope. But I also do not see the need for a tight knit corridor tank shooter game. Does not fit.