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#3201
Crazy_Cat_Lady

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I think if you hit the gay romance dialogue, the game should start playing The Village People songs in the background.

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The Uncanny

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Crazy_Cat_Lady wrote...

I think if you hit the gay romance dialogue, the game should start playing The Village People songs in the background.


:lol:

Definitely. 'Macho Man' would be a good choice and 'In the Navy' would work particularly well for Shep/Jacob or Shep/Kaidan.

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Also please don't have any unavoidable Paragon scenes with NPC's where a guy will kiss the male Shep on the cheek like Parisini did on Illium. Just throwing that out there... :S

Gianna will only do that to MShep anyway, and there's no guy even doing that to FShep, so I wouldn't worry about that kind of prospect.

The whole Gianna thing is a bit stupid IMO. Why don't I get a kiss on the cheek? A kiss on the cheek is hardly something  controversial. I kiss friends on the cheek all the time and certainly don't plan to hit on them. Why don't I get a kiss on the cheek from Parsini? Doesn't she consider Femsheps to be friends?

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The Uncanny wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

Because its single handily one of the worst experiences in a BioWare romance I've ever had. :crying:

ME 2 SPOILER WARNING FOR FEMSHEP X JACOB!!!!



:sick:

Someone can't take a hint.


You know... before I saw this I quite liked Jacob. He was a bit starchy, but seemingly a decent enough guy.

Ever since I saw it I've wanted to ruthlessly bludgeon him with a hammer. :whistle:


You me and several other people. *shakes head* Whoever wrote that scene *shudders* 

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Ugh that's why I avoid Jacob like the plague and try to skip through his dialogues as quickly as possible. The only reason I do his loyalty quest now is to get the pistol upgrade, otherwise I'd avoid doing it altogether.

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Relevant comments in here...

http://kotaku.com/54...se-romance-pack

There are a couple of threads about it on page one, but basically they reference a possible expansion pack centered solely around relationships.

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TommyServo wrote...

Relevant comments in here...
http://kotaku.com/54...se-romance-pack
There are a couple of threads about it on page one, but basically they reference a possible expansion pack centered solely around relationships.


I LOL'd at "Take Leliana on a date" pack.  Table for two at the Gnawed Noble Tavern!

I'm not sure how I feel about that.  It just seems like something to appease fanboys/girls while just perpetuating the stereotype of Bioware fans that "we're all losers who can't get laid so we want some virtual love to make up for it".  Then again, if it's good content and a good value in terms of cost I'd probably get it.

Modifié par Crazy_Cat_Lady, 17 mars 2010 - 04:15 .


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HaloKT wrote...
The whole Gianna thing is a bit stupid IMO. Why don't I get a kiss on the cheek? A kiss on the cheek is hardly something  controversial. I kiss friends on the cheek all the time and certainly don't plan to hit on them. Why don't I get a kiss on the cheek from Parsini? Doesn't she consider Femsheps to be friends?


Cause she was attrated to Mshep and not to Fshep? And maybe she doesnt kiss all her friends on the cheeck like you do?

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Flirting with a member of the same sex would give me paragon or renegade points?

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Crazy_Cat_Lady wrote...

TommyServo wrote...

Relevant comments in here...
http://kotaku.com/54...se-romance-pack
There are a couple of threads about it on page one, but basically they reference a possible expansion pack centered solely around relationships.


I LOL'd at "Take Leliana on a date" pack.  Table for two at the Gnawed Noble Tavern!

I'm not sure how I feel about that.  It just seems like something to appease fanboys/girls while just perpetuating the stereotype of Bioware fans that "we're all losers who can't get laid so we want some virtual love to make up for it".  Then again, if it's good content and a good value in terms of cost I'd probably get it.


Uh... BioWare is a very successful company. If that what they do makes the fanboys/girls with not enough hmm... social life... happy than that's very fine with me.  
But we'll see how their sw-mmo will have an impact on the social life of nerds all over the globe :o

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Images wrote...

You're only hating God if you believe that there is one. I had imaginary friends as a child too but I don't tell my co-workers off if they're actions would displease them!

Not bashing the Christians too much but its cool if they say, I disaprove of your lifestyle as it runs counter to my own morals and belief system but this whole, "you're pissing off the allmighty!"attitude is for the birds. His existence is not fact. Just belief. There's nothing wrong with belief and spirituality, or debating morals and the concept of the human soul. It is one of the things that makes our humanity unique. But saying you're annoying an entity who's existence is debateable is just thick.

Stick to the arguments,
Not bearded guys in the sky.
If the rapture happens tommorrow
You can wave down to us as we fry.


I'm a straight Taoist btw if anyone's wondering. Or as I like to call it "Oriental Jedi"...which does confuse people as I'm white, blonde and as blue eyed as an SS recruiting poster.

WAT. I was referring to the fundamentalist christian attitude towards gays, not the general christian (i.e. I couldn't care less if you're gay, as long as you're a nice person) one.

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Fair34 wrote...

Ugh that's why I avoid Jacob like the plague and try to skip through his dialogues as quickly as possible. The only reason I do his loyalty quest now is to get the pistol upgrade, otherwise I'd avoid doing it altogether.


Darn those pesky upgrades. Gotta catch 'em all! But how to do it whilst ensuring that certain members of the crew still suffer horrible, lingering deaths? Decisions, decisions.

I'm increasingly becoming convinced that Ryzaki was absolutely right - we need a DLC pack which enables us to throw characters out of the airlock.

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OP says

"No, Shepard is NOT a fruit, but that doesn’t mean he/she can’t like

someone of the same-sex"



This is the point where it is derailed. Mass Effect is a third person narrative and works with a predefined hero, commander Shepard who we guide.

You mentioned other BioWare titles, all of them were first person narratives, where the character is alkmost entirely up to the player.



So, that's it. Shepard by nature is straight. Putting in a gay or lesbian romance would be misleading and out of place.

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Revan, for example, was far less customizable than Shepard.

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hawat333 wrote...

OP says
"No, Shepard is NOT a fruit, but that doesn’t mean he/she can’t like
someone of the same-sex"

This is the point where it is derailed. Mass Effect is a third person narrative and works with a predefined hero, commander Shepard who we guide.
You mentioned other BioWare titles, all of them were first person narratives, where the character is alkmost entirely up to the player.

So, that's it. Shepard by nature is straight. Putting in a gay or lesbian romance would be misleading and out of place.

read the full FAQ in the first three postings.
but to summerise. The storytelling in ME is no different from that in other Bioware games and Shepard is not predefined anymore than other Bioware characters before.
Shepard does not even have a sex till the player decides that Shepard is male or female.

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hawat333 wrote...

OP says
"No, Shepard is NOT a fruit, but that doesn’t mean he/she can’t like
someone of the same-sex"

This is the point where it is derailed. Mass Effect is a third person narrative and works with a predefined hero, commander Shepard who we guide.
You mentioned other BioWare titles, all of them were first person narratives, where the character is alkmost entirely up to the player.

So, that's it. Shepard by nature is straight. Putting in a gay or lesbian romance would be misleading and out of place.


Your claim is disproven by the fact that female Shepard can identify as straight, bi, or gay, while male Shepard cannot.  If they're the same character, why is this?

If other Bioware games were MMOs or open ended games like Oblivion, you'd possibly have a point.  As it is, Shepard is the Grey Warden with voice acting.  Read the FAQ.

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TommyServo wrote...


hawat333 wrote...

OP says
"No, Shepard is NOT a fruit, but that doesn’t mean he/she can’t like
someone of the same-sex"

This is the point where it is derailed. Mass Effect is a third person narrative and works with a predefined hero, commander Shepard who we guide.
You mentioned other BioWare titles, all of them were first person narratives, where the character is alkmost entirely up to the player.

So, that's it. Shepard by nature is straight. Putting in a gay or lesbian romance would be misleading and out of place.


Your claim is disproven by the fact that female Shepard can identify as straight, bi, or gay, while male Shepard cannot.  If they're the same character, why is this?

If other Bioware games were MMOs or open ended games like Oblivion, you'd possibly have a point.  As it is, Shepard is the Grey Warden with voice acting.  Read the FAQ.


No he isn't. Grey Warden would OWN Shepard in a fight. :devil:

Especially a mage warden. Poor Sheploo wouldn't know what hit him.

Owned by a elven female that is barely 20+ years old. Nice going champ. :lol:

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I'd like to see you survive getting shot with a hypersonic piece of directed shrapnel, mage. Thy majicks are useless if you don't have time to use them.

Modifié par Dethateer, 17 mars 2010 - 07:08 .


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Check this bit of news kids. Our struggle may actually have some impact, after all.

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1. There already two threads on that.

2. They don't say anything about same-sex romances. Or new ones, for that matter.

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No, but it would make sense if something new were actually to be added. It wouldn't be adding new romances anyway, just expanding the old ones.

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Dethateer wrote...

I'd like to see you survive getting shot with a hypersonic piece of directed shrapnel, mage. Thy majicks are useless if you don't have time to use them.


Pfft. You're kidding right? My mage would pull crushing prision on Sheploo before he could even blink. Then follow it up with a nice winter's grasp, lightening bolt, fire bolt, and if Sheploo managed to get free a nice paralysis spell followed by walking bomb. I'd like to see Sheploo survive that. :ph34r:


And if push comes to shove Forcefield + crushing prison would do a decent amount of damage for a quick getaway. :whistle:

Modifié par Ryzaki, 17 mars 2010 - 07:17 .


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They didn't say anything about anything. They just jokingly hinted at it. It's still something to think about though - certainly relevant to the subject of this thread.

I think a new character or two could work out well, provided they're integrated properly into the narrative.

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Ryzaki wrote...

Dethateer wrote...

I'd like to see you survive getting shot with a hypersonic piece of directed shrapnel, mage. Thy majicks are useless if you don't have time to use them.


Pfft. You're kidding right? My mage would pull crushing prision on Sheploo before he could even blink. Then follow it up with a nice winter's grasp, lightening bolt, fire bolt, and if Sheploo managed to get free a nice paralysis spell followed by walking bomb. I'd like to see Sheploo survive that. :ph34r:


Right. You do that. Meanwhile, I'll be nice and safe, half a mile away, slowly lining up my Widow's crosshairs with your head. With Cloak on. BOOM!

Lightice_av wrote...

No, but it would make sense if
something new were actually to be added. It wouldn't be adding new
romances anyway, just expanding the old ones.


Add new
crew where? There isn't any more space on the Normandy.

Modifié par Dethateer, 17 mars 2010 - 07:18 .


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I think a new character or two could work out well, provided they're integrated properly into the narrative.


I don't see any new DLC characters added to the game. I interpreted the talk to concern expanding the existing romance paths with new options and new depth. Yeah, it was just throwing ideas around at this point, but considering that Bioware seems to want to keep the game fresh for the coming months with DLC, one that gave characters new depth wouldn't be a bad one. Lets take it as a hopeful sign for now.

Add new
crew where? There isn't any more space on the
Normandy.

Who said anything about any new crew? I was talking about expanding already existing romance subplots, and as far as I can tell that's what the news was about, as well.

Modifié par Lightice_av, 17 mars 2010 - 07:20 .