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[Ryzaki]

*shrugs* Most of the people I know find the male form more aesthetically pleasing. Unless they happen to be straight males.

...and no I don't like hairy dudes. Most guys I know don't like hairy chicks so I consider that even.

Modifié par Ryzaki, 24 mars 2010 - 12:49 .

[FataliTensei]

Ryzaki wrote...

*shrugs* Most of the people I know find the male form more aesthetically pleasing. Unless they happen to be straight males.

...and no I don't like hairy dudes. Most guys I know don't like hairy chicks so I consider that even.

  lol

[Collider]

This discussion about who is more aesthetically pleasing is both speculation and beating a dead horse.

[Arik7]

Aesthetically pleasing:

[Ryzaki]

Collider wrote...

This discussion about who is more aesthetically pleasing is both speculation and beating a dead horse.

Eh. What do we do other than beat dead horses? Tis a forum. Its pretty much a giant beating dead horses after a month of the game release date.

FataliTensei wrote...

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Its's
true!

Modifié par Ryzaki, 24 mars 2010 - 12:56 .

[Katnap Devikat]

Livemmo wrote...

no seriously... we really dont want this. please dont put your homasexua ideas into my video game. serious.

this is Generalised and unfounded opinion and you are assuming that buying the game (or saying you will) gives you ownership over the games content.

Besides why is this a big deal? When ME3 rolls around they will put in some new characters and have new romances, if one out of some fifteen romances (in all 3 games) is same sex why should anyone care? Its not like having the option in the game makes you automatically swing that way, and as my learned forum goer above suggests just ignore it and you wont even notice it. Besides they wont put in same sex romances for already established characters as their sexuality is canon. So again we will probably get a single char in ME3 that is bi or something allowing both sexes (ala liara).

One more note @Livemmo what is your opinion on lesbians?

*edit* damn i type slow, about twenty posts have been written since i started

Modifié par Katnap Devikat, 24 mars 2010 - 01:01 .

[Collider]

Arik, Shepard has the most...ah, I can't even describe the face he makes in that video.

[Mimaiselphenai]

FataliTensei wrote...

While this is an interesting conversation, we do need to stay on topic

so if you could find a way to bring it back to Mass Effect

Well, it kind of is related to Mass Effect, what with Asari obviously being the "safe" female/female romance, while there's no male/male equivalent. Asari aren't "male or female," yet they were shamelessly designed to be attractive women. If they were a race of ambiguous-gendered aliens, why not look the part? They're "female" because the female form is attractive. If they looked more androgynous, some fans (probably males, mostly) would associate it too much with the male body. It seems like Asari are the "have your cake and eat it too" Mass Effect race, since they satisfy the girl on girl entertainment while still allowing for argument why there's no male/male romance.

Modifié par Mimaiselphenai, 24 mars 2010 - 01:02 .

[Collider]

Kelly.

[Ryzaki]

Also there's a big difference between this and this



Hugh Grant is...yummy. :innocent:

Collider wrote...

Arik, Shepard has the most...ah, I can't
even describe the face he makes in that video.

He
seems emo to me. Then again I play a lot of JRPGs.

Modifié par Ryzaki, 24 mars 2010 - 01:05 .

[Mimaiselphenai]

Collider wrote...

Kelly.

Eh, I guess you could go with that, but Kelly also isn't a squadmember. She's a bit more inconsequencial.

[Collider]

Let's not begin posting what the thread thinks is attractive in men.

[Collider]

Mimaiselphenai wrote...

Collider wrote...

Kelly.

Eh, I guess you could go with that, but Kelly also isn't a squadmember. She's a bit more inconsequencial.

Still lesbian.

[Ryzaki]

Collider wrote...

Let's not begin posting what the thread thinks is attractive in men.

Aw. You stealeth my funz.

Anyways. MShep x Kaidan could be handled really well in ME3. Joker would be interesting too...though Hendel would probably be the safest bet. No one can get mad and go: "That's OOC! He's not gay!!!"


Also that whole reunion scene is pretty ho yay tastic even without the import of an MShepxKaidan relationship.

"Losing you was like losing a limb." 

Uh...yeah...alrighty then Kaidan.

Modifié par Ryzaki, 24 mars 2010 - 01:09 .

[Blackveldt]

Mimaiselphenai wrote...

Personally, I don't like the statement 'women are more aesthetically pleasing'; it is far too ambiguous, subjective, and open-ended for my taste. For example, how is the female form "more pleasing" than the male form? Examples? Sources? And how are you measuring aesthetic beauty? You've provided no operational definition and have cited heresay and conjecture as your main argument. "Most people" is not a statistic. Just saying...specificity might be in your favor.

Specificity isn't in my favor since because I have no personal view. I'm not saying men or women are more aesthetically pleasing. I'm just saying the majority of people (straight men and bisexual women obviously, straight women and bisexual men depends on the individual), from my point of view, find the female form at its best more pleasing to look at than males. Probably due at least in part to how much more females are sensualized/sexualized in (American) society and media.

I don't need to be "justified" in saying it, because it's not my personal belief.

And I wasn't talking of your personal view.  You do not need one to express a view or statement.  You are arguing for a particular viewpoint; that it is not yours is irrelevant.  When I mentioned make-up, I was in essence providing a potential supporting idea for the very viewpoint for which you were arguing, yet it was not my personal view.  I also never stated you needed to be "justified" (and using quotes implies that I said that--or typed, rather--verbatim).  Justification implies the role of morality.  I think you mean rationalization, which is the provision of logical reasoning and conclusions.

It's a conclusion I've come to from my own observations.

Which is why I responded in the first place.  You opened up a discussion to refute your conclusion.  In my case, your methodology (i.e., "observations"), which are invalid.

If I'm wrong,
I'm wrong. If you'd like to "prove" that I'm wrong, by all means. In any
case you're entitled to your opinion, too.

It was my opinion that I did not like your rather undefined statement from a scientific/empirical stance.  It is not opinion that your methodology is illogical; it is a fallacy.

But I do suppose we've gone a bit off-topic.  I'm trying to remember how this all began.

[Collider]

Ryzaki wrote...

Collider wrote...

Let's not begin posting what the thread thinks is attractive in men.

Aw. You stealth my funz.

Anyways. MShep x Kaidan could be handled really well in ME3.

It's not going to happen, thankfully. Wasting resources there to make a new romance just for players who 
a) Had Kaidan survive.
Are male.
c) Are into it.

By default, male Shepards virmired Kaidan. So you can't have your gay friend only play ME3 for gay kaidan love.

I thought Hendel already had a boyfriend. Just make new characters that are gay or bisexual, best route. Joker could be bisexual. Not gay, unless he is a gay man taking scholarly interest in hardcore asari porn.

[Mimaiselphenai]

JohnnyDollar wrote...

Mimaiselphenai wrote...
Well, it kind of is related to Mass Effect, what with Asari obviously being the "safe" female/female romance, while there's no male/male equivalent. Asari aren't "male or female," yet they were shamelessly designed to be attractive women. If they were a race of ambiguous-gendered aliens, why not look the part? They're "female" because the female form is attractive. If they looked more androgynous, some fans (probably males, mostly) would associate it too much with the male body. It seems like Asari are the "have your cake and eat it too" Mass Effect race, since they satisfy the girl on girl entertainment while still allowing for argument why there's no male/male romance.

And this is for straight males.  I don't have the statistics, but a pretty safe assumption is that the vast majority of ME gamers (not talking about forumites) are straight males.

Well, that's the obvious conclusion. That's the obvious conclusion as to why there's no male/male romance. I was just generalizing for the sake of argument.

[Ryzaki]

Collider wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

Collider wrote...

Let's not begin posting what the thread thinks is attractive in men.

Aw. You stealth my funz.

Anyways. MShep x Kaidan could be handled really well in ME3.

It's not going to happen, thankfully. Wasting resources there to make a new romance just for players who 
a) Had Kaidan survive.
Are male.
c) Are into it.

By default, male Shepards virmired Kaidan. So you can't have your gay friend only play ME3 for gay kaidan love.

I thought Hendel already had a boyfriend. Just make new characters that are gay or bisexual, best route. Joker could be bisexual. Not gay, unless he is a gay man taking scholarly interest in hardcore asari porn.

Meh Hendel's boyfriend could always meet with an....unfortunate accident.
 
But yeah Kaidan's not likely.

Joker...actually Joker would make a lot of sense. And if he's made into a LI for FemSheps would take a lot less work than Kaidan. 

Hm...I did read a good MShep x Joker fic with Joker having feelings for MShep but not acting on them until the final game time period. It was really good actually.

But yeah any male same sex LI would be Bi. I doubt they'd ever be just gay.

Though Joker x Shep (both genders) has a lot of potential.

Heck he's the last of Shep's main companions not to be romanceable!

Modifié par Ryzaki, 24 mars 2010 - 01:20 .

[Collider]

How would Joker make sense as M/M? If there is any sense to or against him being an option for male Shepards, I would say that there is less sense considering that he's shown to like females.

[Ryzaki]

Collider wrote...

How would Joker make sense as M/M? If there is any sense to or against him being an option for male Shepards, I would say that there is less sense considering that he's shown to like females.

Uh. What is no bisexuals in season again? 

Hm...I said if written appropriately. Anything can make sense if written with enough backstory (with MShep and Joker have plenty of). I'm not suggesting he be completely gay. (Could be written and pulled off by a talented enough writer and make sense but I'm not suggesting that).

Edit: Also we already had this argument just with Tali. So let's not do this again we already know how its going to end. Neither of us will reverse our positions and will likely aggravate each other.

Modifié par Ryzaki, 24 mars 2010 - 01:27 .

[Darkieus]

Joker is also prone to falling in love with Artificial Intelligences.