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Caprica9

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Cootie wrote...

We don't want to be either a negative influence or a nuisance for the rest of the community. We are to humbly make a proposal, not force it on everyone who disagrees.
Disagreeing is fun, it makes for discussion, but this wasn't even a conversation to begin with. I think the past three pages should be ignored until we stop acting senseless.

That's a childish way of thinking. How was the last few pages not a conversation? Because it hurts your feelings?

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Temper_Graniteskul

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Caprica9 wrote...

davidk1991 wrote...

Caprica9 wrote...

That could be said about you and your blind mates as well.


So I'm 'blind' if I disagree now...  I don't think you're worth debating with, you seem very counter-productive to me.

Nobody has stated a reason why there shouldn't be optional same-sex romances yet...

You're blind because you don't see the truth. How hard is that to grasp?

Blind to what? It's not like you're giving us anything to go on, here - you've just said how 'obvious' some things are, but not why they're apparently so obvious to you and not us. Perception != fact. The only truth that's come out is that, for whatever reason, you don't like the idea of s/s romance options in ME. Possibly games in general. No one here's blind to that.

To which I say, I and many others like the idea and would like to see the option. More options for all! Vive le difference!

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People being made 'uncomfortable' with the inclusion of same sex romance should not even be brought up. So what if it makes you uncomfortable? Don't do it.

A lot of the Renegade interrupts make me uncomfortable, but do I try to make it so everyone either has to do Paragon interrupts or none at all?

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Very ironic, having the name Caprica. That's the planet on Battlestar Galactica, a show that is all about commonality, brotherhood, inclusion... And at the same time arguing for excluding people you hate from a video game.

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Keeping this ME related. I just don't understand what it would bring to the game. Would you not buy the game if they announced that there weren't going to be homosexual relationships? It adds nothing to the game. I just think they should keep it consistent. If there weren't "s/s" relationships in ME1 or ME2 why should they include it in ME3?

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diskoh wrote...

Very ironic, having the name Caprica. That's the planet on Battlestar Galactica, a show that is all about commonality, brotherhood, inclusion... And at the same time arguing for excluding people you hate from a video game.

Lol. Who said I wanted to exclude a character I hate from the video game? 

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Caprica9 wrote...

Keeping this ME related. I just don't understand what it would bring to the game. Would you not buy the game if they announced that there weren't going to be homosexual relationships? It adds nothing to the game. I just think they should keep it consistent. If there weren't "s/s" relationships in ME1 or ME2 why should they include it in ME3?


Well there were S/S in ME (for female Shepard anyway).  Also including Heterosexual romances can be off putting to some people so why bother putting romances in at all?  If thats your angle anyway.

Modifié par Onyx Jaguar, 30 mars 2010 - 09:29 .


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The Uncanny

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Caprica9 wrote...

If there weren't "s/s" relationships in ME1 or ME2 why should they include it in ME3?


But there are.

Edit: Ninja'd!

Modifié par The Uncanny, 30 mars 2010 - 09:30 .


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Caprica9 wrote...

Keeping this ME related. I just don't understand what it would bring to the game. Would you not buy the game if they announced that there weren't going to be homosexual relationships? It adds nothing to the game. I just think they should keep it consistent. If there weren't "s/s" relationships in ME1 or ME2 why should they include it in ME3?


It enriches the experience for a huge chunk of the audience, who get a more relatable Shepard - or a more well-rounded Shepard.  It certainly takes nothing away from the people who don't want it.

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Temper_Graniteskul wrote...

Blind to what? It's not like you're giving us anything to go on, here - you've just said how 'obvious' some things are, but not why they're apparently so obvious to you and not us. Perception != fact. The only truth that's come out is that, for whatever reason, you don't like the idea of s/s romance options in ME. Possibly games in general. No one here's blind to that.

To which I say, I and many others like the idea and would like to see the option. More options for all! Vive le difference!


My sentiments exactly.  But I've gave up trying to understand what she's on about.

Anyway, on topic!  I think Mass Effect specifically should include more romance option as it is set a century or so away, and I would like to hope there would be at least a little less intolerance to individuality and choice in the future.

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Temper_Graniteskul wrote...

Caprica9 wrote...

davidk1991 wrote...

Caprica9 wrote...

That could be said about you and your blind mates as well.


So I'm 'blind' if I disagree now...  I don't think you're worth debating with, you seem very counter-productive to me.

Nobody has stated a reason why there shouldn't be optional same-sex romances yet...

You're blind because you don't see the truth. How hard is that to grasp?

Blind to what? It's not like you're giving us anything to go on, here - you've just said how 'obvious' some things are, but not why they're apparently so obvious to you and not us. Perception != fact. The only truth that's come out is that, for whatever reason, you don't like the idea of s/s romance options in ME. Possibly games in general. No one here's blind to that.

To which I say, I and many others like the idea and would like to see the option. More options for all! Vive le difference!


La différence .
Anyway, like lots of people I would like to see Hendel in ME3, he seems like a kick ass
character and would be a great option for M/M:wizard:

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Caprica9

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There aren't any m/m relationships. And that's how they will keep it.

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Caprica9 wrote...

Keeping this ME related. I just don't understand what it would bring to the game.


What would it bring? Options.


Caprica9 wrote...

I just think they should keep it
consistent. If there weren't "s/s" relationships in ME1 or ME2 why
should they include it in ME3?


Ahem. Liara and Kelly are both f/f options. So, yeah.

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Caprica9 wrote...

There aren't any m/m relationships. And that's how they will keep it.


Once again, unsubtantiated opinion =/= fact.

See ya later folks, stay civil!

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davidk1991 wrote...

Temper_Graniteskul wrote...

Blind to what? It's not like you're giving us anything to go on, here - you've just said how 'obvious' some things are, but not why they're apparently so obvious to you and not us. Perception != fact. The only truth that's come out is that, for whatever reason, you don't like the idea of s/s romance options in ME. Possibly games in general. No one here's blind to that.

To which I say, I and many others like the idea and would like to see the option. More options for all! Vive le difference!


My sentiments exactly.  But I've gave up trying to understand what she's on about.

Anyway, on topic!  I think Mass Effect specifically should include more romance option as it is set a century or so away, and I would like to hope there would be at least a little less intolerance to individuality and choice in the future.

No, you're just incapable of having a proper debate. I'm done here. I would love to see your reactions when there isn't any m/m relationships in ME3. :)

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Caprica9 wrote...

There aren't any m/m relationships. And that's how they will keep it.


Huh, you have good sources ?
One can only hope for Me3 . It would be kind of Bioware to aknowledge gay fans in some sort of way .

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There aren't any m/m relationships. And that's how they will keep it.



This is your opinion. Whether or not it is true is a matter of conjencture. We certainly will never find out if we take your word for it. The fact is that you don't possess any more knowledge on the matter than the rest of us, and your opinion is not an absolute fact, an idea you seem to have some trouble understanding.

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Caprica9 wrote...
No, you're just incapable of having a proper debate. I'm done here. I would love to see your reactions when there isn't any m/m relationships in ME3. :)


Bye.

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It adds immersion to the game on a whole new level, I've noticed. I've been playing Mass Effect with the little imagination-guide in my head telling me it's like watching your favourite TV-show, but you decide everything about the characters.

Character interaction is, like, the most important part of any series.

And I'm just supporting this because I want those that would like to see their favourite pairing to actually have that possibility.



Or maybe it's just my silly imagination-guide that's really strange.

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davidk1991 wrote...

Anyway, on topic!  I think Mass Effect specifically should include more romance option as it is set a century or so away, and I would like to hope there would be at least a little less intolerance to individuality and choice in the future.


Heh. With the asari running around embracing everyone's eternity you'd certainly hope we'd start to... loosen up. :P

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All Bioware needs to do is make sure that any s/s romance is clearly discernible (and if need be immersion breaking) so people who are not interested in s/s romance do not find themselves in that awkward Zevran-esk dialogue.

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mrfoo1 wrote...

All Bioware needs to do is make sure that any s/s romance is clearly discernible (and if need be immersion breaking) so people who are not interested in s/s romance do not find themselves in that awkward Zevran-esk dialogue.


True. For all LIs. I really don't want to go through the whole FemShep talking to Jacob thing again... *shudders*

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The Uncanny wrote...

mrfoo1 wrote...

All Bioware needs to do is make sure that any s/s romance is clearly discernible (and if need be immersion breaking) so people who are not interested in s/s romance do not find themselves in that awkward Zevran-esk dialogue.


True. For all LIs. I really don't want to go through the whole FemShep talking to Jacob thing again... *shudders*


But the priiiiiiiiiize...

#4374
The Uncanny

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LiquidGrape wrote...

But the priiiiiiiiiize...


Eeek! Stop it! :sick::lol:

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FiveThreeTen wrote...

Temper_Graniteskul wrote...

Caprica9 wrote...

davidk1991 wrote...

Caprica9 wrote...

That could be said about you and your blind mates as well.


So I'm 'blind' if I disagree now...  I don't think you're worth debating with, you seem very counter-productive to me.

Nobody has stated a reason why there shouldn't be optional same-sex romances yet...

You're blind because you don't see the truth. How hard is that to grasp?

Blind to what? It's not like you're giving us anything to go on, here - you've just said how 'obvious' some things are, but not why they're apparently so obvious to you and not us. Perception != fact. The only truth that's come out is that, for whatever reason, you don't like the idea of s/s romance options in ME. Possibly games in general. No one here's blind to that.

To which I say, I and many others like the idea and would like to see the option. More options for all! Vive le difference!


La différence .
Anyway, like lots of people I would like to see Hendel in ME3, he seems like a kick ass character and would be a great option for M/M:wizard:

Curse my poor French - I'm a terrible Canuck. Thank you for the correction.

I'm intrigued by the Hendel Mitra character. I've not read the books, but from what others have said he's a well-written character and would fit in well with the crew. I'd be interested in seeing what they could do with him in the game.