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SymbolicGamer

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It'd be funny if for Mass Effect 3, female Shepard has the option of hitting on one of her crew members and gets immediately shot down.



Then Shepard gets a transmission about harassment in the workplace.


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SorenTrigg wrote...
A lot of the Renegade interrupts make me uncomfortable, but do I try to make it so everyone either has to do Paragon interrupts or none at all?

Renegade\\paragon is a bad example.
Due to dumb and simplified reputation mechanic
player forced to maximize paragon or renegade if he\\she want to use that preferences. :?

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I agree it would be nice if they made it easier to identify/avoid certain romance dialogue, the FemShep-Jacob one being most notable. So long as you're clear on whether you're pursuing a romance option or not, then everyone could happily click or not click on that particular dialogue choice.



In regard to the earlier question, what do the s/s romances add to the game, its a really easy answer. Probably most folks here who play as MaleShep romanced Liara at least once. Imagine when you imported your character that romanced Liara into ME2, you suddenly found that (other than Kelly) your only romance options were MALE characters. You probably don't want to imagine that :) . But whatever your reaction would be, its exactly the same reaction for those of us who are FemShep players, exactly the same. There's obviously no possible reason for anyone to believe that those who romanced Liara in ME1 (as either Shep) are remotely interested in an all-male lineup of LIs in ME2, its nothing but a slap in the face to us. Thus it should be pretty clear why restoring our romances to the game would make it a LOT more fun for us, and thats why we're here, asking for exactly that :) .

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Has anyone thought about the possibility of either ME2 or ME3 DLC being based on Shepard's child? You could say that the child could be adopted if he/she were gay/lesbian, but I don't think the same connection results from adoption as does from actually having a part to play in the child's life.

Edit:  And for those with no LI, it could be explained that the child was born in a time that you didn't get to play during.

Modifié par Juztinb42, 30 mars 2010 - 10:49 .


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Hi Er..... this is my first ever posting. Excuse me if i'm 'bumping' someone. I'm not actually sure wot that means.



All I want to say is that I know a few homosexual gamers that went out and bought Dragon Age: Origins after they found out about the s/s romance. BioWare is just trying to cater to all types of peoples preferences. I Personally found that it added to the game.

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SymbolicGamer wrote...

It'd be funny if for Mass Effect 3, female Shepard has the option of hitting on one of her crew members and gets immediately shot down.

Then Shepard gets a transmission about harassment in the workplace.


Heh. I can just see it.

Kelly: I trust you, Commander. The moment I met you I knew if I fell back, I could trust you to catch me.

Shepard: I might do more than just catch you, Kelly!

*Slap*

Kelly: What? I... I've been speaking to you for two minutes and you're hitting on me? Just what kind of girl do you think I am?

Shepard: Umm... Well, actually Mordin said...

Kelly: Oh! Of course! Him again. Well, I'm sick of it. Sick and tired. Just wait until the Illusive Man hears about this! Saviour of the galaxy or not, he doesn't need the headache of a sexual discrimination lawsuit!

Shepard: Grumble, grumble, fish, grumble...

(Five minutes later)

Jack: You eyein' me up? 'Cause if this is just about sex, then say so.

Shepard: I like the way you move, Jack!

*Slap*

Jack: I will destroy you!


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Leeedemode wrote...

Hi Er..... this is my first ever posting. Excuse me if i'm 'bumping' someone. I'm not actually sure wot that means.

All I want to say is that I know a few homosexual gamers that went out and bought Dragon Age: Origins after they found out about the s/s romance. BioWare is just trying to cater to all types of peoples preferences. I Personally found that it added to the game.


No worries, bumping, it actually refers to the thread. Bumping a
thread means reactualizing and keeping it up in the discussion list by
posting something in it so that it doesn't disappear in the forum
oblivion.

The funny thing is that a straight male friend of mine
is actually more annoyed than me for the lack of s/s option in ME2,
just because he thinks it isn't fair.

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Juztinb42 wrote...

Has anyone thought about the possibility of either ME2 or ME3 DLC being based on Shepard's child?

No, I for one haven't, but I don't see what this has to do with this thread.

You could say that the child could be adopted if he/she were gay/lesbian, but I don't think the same connection results from adoption as does from actually having a part to play in the child's life.

Edit:  And for those with no LI, it could be explained that the child was born in a time that you didn't get to play during.


Actually gay/lesbians can have children, just not with the person they are in love with. Homosexual =/= sterile. Besides, FemSHep could have a kid with any Asari willing and able to give birth. And an adoptive parent certainly plays a bigger part in a child's life than an absent biological parent, I'd wager.

Modifié par Fade9wayz, 30 mars 2010 - 11:52 .


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Juztinb42

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Fade9wayz wrote...

Juztinb42 wrote...

Has anyone thought about the possibility of either ME2 or ME3 DLC being based on Shepard's child?

No, I for one haven't, but I don't see what this has to do with this thread.

You could say that the child could be adopted if he/she were gay/lesbian, but I don't think the same connection results from adoption as does from actually having a part to play in the child's life.

Edit:  And for those with no LI, it could be explained that the child was born in a time that you didn't get to play during.


Actually gay/lesbians can have children, just not with the person they are in love with. Homosexual =/= sterile. Besides, FemSHep could have a kid with any Asari willing and able to give birth. And an adoptive parent certainly plays a bigger part in a child's life than an absent biological parent, I'd wager.

How can you not see?  I am saying that if DLC is based on Shepard's child, it would only apply to straight people, since homosexuals can't have children.  I guess they could have a child with someone else, but then they wouldn't really be homosexual then would they?  And are you proposing that the only homosexual Shepards that can play said DLC would be the female Shepards who want to mate with an Asari?  I think that would cause more problems than it solves.

Who's talking about absent parents?

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I propose eliminating all problems through cloning...

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Juztinb42 wrote...

Fade9wayz wrote...

Juztinb42 wrote...

Has anyone thought about the possibility of either ME2 or ME3 DLC being based on Shepard's child?

No, I for one haven't, but I don't see what this has to do with this thread.

You could say that the child could be adopted if he/she were gay/lesbian, but I don't think the same connection results from adoption as does from actually having a part to play in the child's life.

Edit:  And for those with no LI, it could be explained that the child was born in a time that you didn't get to play during.


Actually gay/lesbians can have children, just not with the person they are in love with. Homosexual =/= sterile. Besides, FemSHep could have a kid with any Asari willing and able to give birth. And an adoptive parent certainly plays a bigger part in a child's life than an absent biological parent, I'd wager.

How can you not see?  I am saying that if DLC is based on Shepard's child, it would only apply to straight people, since homosexuals can't have children.  I guess they could have a child with someone else, but then they wouldn't really be homosexual then would they?  And are you proposing that the only homosexual Shepards that can play said DLC would be the female Shepards who want to mate with an Asari?  I think that would cause more problems than it solves.

Who's talking about absent parents?

So all those same-sex couples with kids are not really gay?? Posted Image
Sexual attraction is not required to produce a child.  A man could.... umm... place his essence in a cup, and you're almost done.

 Anyway, a DLC based on Shepard's child sounds like a lousy idea.  Just my 2 cents...

Modifié par Arik7, 31 mars 2010 - 12:39 .


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What's this talk about children? If there's ever a mention of Shepard's child, it's in the epilogue of ME3, but I strongly doubt even that. Having kids is usually not something associated with action-RPGs.

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Lightice_av wrote...

What's this talk about children? If there's ever a mention of Shepard's child, it's in the epilogue of ME3, but I strongly doubt even that. Having kids is usually not something associated with action-RPGs.

But having sex with someone is?

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I guess someone brought up the subject of children as an excuse to exlude same-sex relationships from ME?!

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Juztinb42 wrote...

Lightice_av wrote...

What's this talk about children? If there's ever a mention of Shepard's child, it's in the epilogue of ME3, but I strongly doubt even that. Having kids is usually not something associated with action-RPGs.

But having sex with someone is?

Where have you been?  BW has previously stated that romances are important in their RPGs.

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Juztinb42

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Arik7 wrote...

Juztinb42 wrote...

Fade9wayz wrote...

Juztinb42 wrote...

Has anyone thought about the possibility of either ME2 or ME3 DLC being based on Shepard's child?

No, I for one haven't, but I don't see what this has to do with this thread.

You could say that the child could be adopted if he/she were gay/lesbian, but I don't think the same connection results from adoption as does from actually having a part to play in the child's life.

Edit:  And for those with no LI, it could be explained that the child was born in a time that you didn't get to play during.


Actually gay/lesbians can have children, just not with the person they are in love with. Homosexual =/= sterile. Besides, FemSHep could have a kid with any Asari willing and able to give birth. And an adoptive parent certainly plays a bigger part in a child's life than an absent biological parent, I'd wager.

How can you not see?  I am saying that if DLC is based on Shepard's child, it would only apply to straight people, since homosexuals can't have children.  I guess they could have a child with someone else, but then they wouldn't really be homosexual then would they?  And are you proposing that the only homosexual Shepards that can play said DLC would be the female Shepards who want to mate with an Asari?  I think that would cause more problems than it solves.

Who's talking about absent parents?

So all those same-sex couples with kids are not really gay?? Posted Image
Sexual attraction is not required to produce a child.  A man could.... umm... place his essence in a cup, and you're almost done.

 Anyway, a DLC based on Shepard's child sounds like a lousy idea.  Just my 2 cents...

In which case they can hardly be considered homosexual.  They mated with a member of the opposite sex.  Either they are bisexual or straight.

It could be just like Miranda's loyalty quest, and I don't think anyone had a problem with that.

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Arik7 wrote...

Juztinb42 wrote...

Lightice_av wrote...

What's this talk about children? If there's ever a mention of Shepard's child, it's in the epilogue of ME3, but I strongly doubt even that. Having kids is usually not something associated with action-RPGs.

But having sex with someone is?

Where have you been?  BW has previously stated that romances are important in their RPGs.

No, really!?  I was completely unaware that since all of BioWare's recent RPGs contain some form of romance it means that it is important to them.

How can having kids not be a part of action-RPGs if BioWare include sex and romance?  Sex and romance = kids.

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How can having kids not be a part of action-RPGs if BioWare include sex and romance? Sex and romance = kids.



Not when you are out to save the world it isn't, especially when good half of your potential mates are different species than you are. As I said, maybe a vague possibility for an epilogue, but I can't imagine that anything could bring such plot-point into the middle of the story.

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I support same sex romances if you also get an optional mission to destroy the Westboro Baptist Church on earth with the Mako. Either that or a Dreadnought orbital bombardment, compliments of the deadliest S.O.B in the universe, Sir Isaac Newton.

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Lightice_av wrote...

How can having kids not be a part of action-RPGs if BioWare include sex and romance? Sex and romance = kids.


Not when you are out to save the world it isn't, especially when good half of your potential mates are different species than you are. As I said, maybe a vague possibility for an epilogue, but I can't imagine that anything could bring such plot-point into the middle of the story.

So Shepard has enough time to have a drink with Jacob but he doesn't have enough time to be with someone he loves?

There was enough downtime in between defeating Sovereign and being blown up by the Collectors that Shepard could have had a child, and I'm sure there will be a good amount in between ME2 and ME3.

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Where in the blazes is this kid stuff coming from? O_o



There is a nice little invention called birth control. I highly doubt anyone in Shepard's position (or his LI) would be foolish enough to let herself or his/her lover get impregnated.

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Ryzaki wrote...

Where in the blazes is this kid stuff coming from? O_o

There is a nice little invention called birth control. I highly doubt anyone in Shepard's position (or his LI) would be foolish enough to let herself or his/her lover get impregnated.

Unless *gasp* they wanted a child!

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Nope, Shepard make use of birth control stuff.



In fear of the Space-Pope.

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Shepard having a child or not is not a part of this topic conversation. Start a new topic yourself. This is about the possibility of a same sex romance option in Mass Effect 2 or 3, not Mass Effect- Child Support.

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Juztinb42 wrote...



How can having kids not be a part of action-RPGs if BioWare include sex and romance? Sex and romance = kids.


That's pretty much a perspective thing, again. I know that sex and romance != kids, myself. Whether Shep wants kids seems like one of those things that'd be up to the player (I severely hope it'd be up to the player, anyway), and it's unlikely that either sex of Shep would be reproducing when the Reapers are still on their way. Afterwards, maybe. Maybe.



Still doesn't impact the arguments for inclusion of m/m romance(s) in ME3 or ME2 DLC, though.