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[LiquidGrape]

The Uncanny wrote...

[Temper_Graniteskul]

TommyServo wrote...

Temper_Graniteskul wrote...

This is one of the reasons I favour Kaidan. You get carry-over from ME1 which helps with continuity, and there's less of a sense of being cheated out of intimacy with the character since the ME1 LIs didn't just cut you off if you couldn't romance them. All LIs from ME1 were 'meh' or 'you bastard' in ME2 anyway, so no missed opportunities there - just the hug.
And "losing a limb" bespeaks obsessive interest to me.

There are ways that this could work out really really well - not only for Kaidan but for any characters that might possibly be opened for romance like Joker or Dr. Chakwas (hell yeah!).

One way that occurred to me would be to have the the relationships with original Normandy crew be pushed to the side until the job is done, so it doesn't interfere with all the galaxy saving.  The "big fight with the big bads" could happen fairly early in the narrative of the third game, rather than as the climax.  Shepard prevails against all odds, but the galaxy is in ruins.  The chunk of the game  could focus on the rebuilding, and now that the main task of the trilogy is done, John/Jane Shepard could pick up with Kaidan/Joker/Ashley/whomever.

This would lend itself well to constant support by DLC releases too, since the story is finished but there's still plenty of stuff in the galaxy.  I kinda doubt that they would ever approach it like that (it's probably well over half done already), but damn it would be cool.

That would be all manner of awesome. If nothing else it'd be a nice change-up of 'get the nations/groups/species together to defeat the enemy' - instead you travel from place to place to get them to sign on to (and actively participate in) reconstruction. It'd also keep any complaints to a minimum that are about where you find the time to romance while the galaxy's falling down around your ears.

I think that opening up romances with original ME1 crew could satisfy the inclination to include more romances while not adding even more to the cast, and bring that sense of continuity. Adding to the roster at this point is just madness, to me.

Chakwas seems like a classy lady with a lot of depth. It'd be the lucky Shepard that ended up with her.

[The Uncanny]

LiquidGrape wrote...

Aww...

I'm sharing that pain.

[Siansonea]

I think Kaidan and Ashley would make good same sex romance options. Their connection to Shepard transcends whatever preconceptions they may have had about their sexuality or whatever, Shepard got under their skin, and perhaps made them consider options that had never occurred to them before. It would have to be handled well, much like Torchwood handled the Jack Harkness/Ianto Jones romance. Kaidan and Ashley couldn't suddenly 'turn gay', they would have to simply come to the realization that they love Shepard, who happens to be the same gender as themselves, and they've realized that gender doesn't matter as much as they may once have thought.

[Lightice_av]

LiquidGrape wrote...

Did your Shepard time-warp from pre-Revolutionary France? 

[LiquidGrape]

Lightice_av wrote...
Did your Shepard time-warp from pre-Revolutionary France? 

Blushing. BLUSHING.
I know it's exaggerated.
...but so is her silent yearning.
Pathos, my friend. Pathos.

[Mimaiselphenai]

Siansonea II wrote...

I think Kaidan and Ashley would make good same sex romance options. Their connection to Shepard transcends whatever preconceptions they may have had about their sexuality or whatever, Shepard got under their skin, and perhaps made them consider options that had never occurred to them before. It would have to be handled well, much like Torchwood handled the Jack Harkness/Ianto Jones romance. Kaidan and Ashley couldn't suddenly 'turn gay', they would have to simply come to the realization that they love Shepard, who happens to be the same gender as themselves, and they've realized that gender doesn't matter as much as they may once have thought.

Garrus, too. Don't forget Garrus.

[Fade9wayz]

Temper_Graniteskul wrote...
Adding to the roster at this point is just madness, to me.

You seem to forget that every squadmate in ME2 save one can die. BW will have to cover for that possibility. Even if all of them survived the suicide mission, Thane is in a terminal condition and Mordin might kick the bucket too before any Reaper show up.
Of the ME1 LIs, only Liara was assured to survive and Wrex could be killed too. I definitely believe there will be new squadmates. Not necesseraly many, but some.

[LiquidGrape]

Lightice_av wrote...
Did your Shepard time-warp from pre-Revolutionary France? 

...but I like the way you think.

[Grunt420]

check it out





http://social.bioware.com/brc/1326930

[The Uncanny]

LiquidGrape wrote...

...but I like the way you think.

:happy::lol:

I'm weeping with laughter here. Thank you.

Must away. Have fun, everyone. Play nice.

[SimonTheFrog]

Sweet ^^

[Fade9wayz]

Awesome =)

[fwc nightmare]

http://social.bioware.com/brc/1689039

[Temper_Graniteskul]

Fade9wayz wrote...

Temper_Graniteskul wrote...
Adding to the roster at this point is just madness, to me.

You seem to forget that every squadmate in ME2 save one can die. BW will have to cover for that possibility. Even if all of them survived the suicide mission, Thane is in a terminal condition and Mordin might kick the bucket too before any Reaper show up.
Of the ME1 LIs, only Liara was assured to survive and Wrex could be killed too. I definitely believe there will be new squadmates. Not necesseraly many, but some.

True enough, I do keep forgetting that. (A mission where people die and it's preventable is a mission failed, to me. It's why I hate game escort missions.) Even so, if they are going to add more crew I'd prefer something more like ME1 than 2. Too many bodies on that ship, IMO. And many of them waaaay too warm.

[Fade9wayz]

Temper_Graniteskul wrote...

Fade9wayz wrote...

Temper_Graniteskul wrote...
Adding to the roster at this point is just madness, to me.

You seem to forget that every squadmate in ME2 save one can die. BW will have to cover for that possibility. Even if all of them survived the suicide mission, Thane is in a terminal condition and Mordin might kick the bucket too before any Reaper show up.
Of the ME1 LIs, only Liara was assured to survive and Wrex could be killed too. I definitely believe there will be new squadmates. Not necesseraly many, but some.

True enough, I do keep forgetting that. (A mission where people die and it's preventable is a mission failed, to me. It's why I hate game escort missions.) Even so, if they are going to add more crew I'd prefer something more like ME1 than 2. Too many bodies on that ship, IMO. And many of them waaaay too warm.

-Shrugs- I know players (my brother being among them actually) who think that losing some squadmates add to the realism and immersion of the game. I can understand that.
And a big yes to quality over quantity in ME3, and hopefully S/S options for either gender.

[jlb524]

Here's the glasses version of the Jack romance...



...aaahhhh.

[Cootie]

Them shades... they are ruining the awzum!

[SirGladiator]

That is a great picture of Jack, it definitely should be FemShep in that picture with her . I don't think the fact that the LIs can die in the suicide mission should matter in ME3, all the LIs should come back, I dont know if they should be official teammates since it would be nice to leave room for some new ones, but definitely your romance should carry over in some kind of meaningful way. So far Ive completed two playthroughs, one where my FemShep stays loyal to Ashley, and one where she chooses Miranda (also romancing Kelly in both) . I intend to have a playthrough with each of the three LIs, and Id definitely want each one to continue into ME3, just the same as our ME1 romance continues into ME2 and then into ME3.

[jlb524]

SirGladiator wrote...

That is a great picture of Jack, it definitely should be FemShep in that picture with her   .

It is a FemShep in my pic though you can't really tell.  You probably weren't talking about mine anyway as it features the shades

[hwman]

Well seeing as I'm like the only one posting lately who is not supporting this and the last couple pages are strewn with people making all sorts of replies to comments I've made I'm getting pretty bored with this now.



So one of the replies that I actually read was someone was saying that bioware's goal would be to market the game to the largest audience possible which apparently somehow means including m/m relationships. I'm willing to bet that the largest demographic for bioware games is 12-30 year old heterosexual males who don't feel there's any need to including this. That kind of trumps the 611 group members of the Fight for the Love group.



I'm not trying to put anyone down or anything, and I respect people making a push for what they feel strongly about. I think there are some large similarities between this topic and the whole 'unreadable text on sdtv' topic, and we all know the response they got. Now before everyone goes tearing apart that comparison I know there are other major differences as well. I'm just saying what's done is done. I see the chances of a patch coming out for ME2 that allows m/m relationships is sitting at a rock bottom 0%. I would put the chances of having a m/m relationship in ME3 at less than 10% for the sole reason that it doesn't exist in ME1 or ME2 and I bet most relationships in ME3 will be with characters from ME1 and ME2. ME3 is the time to bring everything full circle back together in a final epic, and hopefully victorious, battle. I honestly think this effort would be best directed towards pushing for these options in other future games that Bioware and other developers put out.



Once again, just my opinions. Good luck pushing your ideas. I'm out. Peace.

[I No-Scoped JFK]

French Shep is awesome... shave those pits tho!

[Fade9wayz]

SirGladiator wrote...

That is a great picture of Jack, it definitely should be FemShep in that picture with her . I don't think the fact that the LIs can die in the suicide mission should matter in ME3, all the LIs should come back, I dont know if they should be official teammates since it would be nice to leave room for some new ones, but definitely your romance should carry over in some kind of meaningful way. So far Ive completed two playthroughs, one where my FemShep stays loyal to Ashley, and one where she chooses Miranda (also romancing Kelly in both) . I intend to have a playthrough with each of the three LIs, and Id definitely want each one to continue into ME3, just the same as our ME1 romance continues into ME2 and then into ME3.

On the contrary, it matters, at least if you care about story continuity. They can only come back in ME3 if the player completed their loyalty mission or weren't Virmired. Obviously, any LI a player romanced in ME2 would survive since that means they completed it with at least that specific character. But BW must take into account players who chose not to complete some of the loyalty quests (including prospective LIs) or never played to either ME1 or ME2. I bet that for them, most of the suicide team would have died except one preselected (by BW) character (who will probably be a default romance). And I'm sure I'm not the only one who had Kelly and crewmembers melt on some of their playthrough.
In short, yes, the LIs you successfully romanced in either ME1 or ME2 will most likely come back in ME3 (I will emit a cautious reserve about Thane), but, assuming every previous romanced LI is recruitable (for the carrying over factor), any of the others might not be recruitable because they were either KIA or have better things to do.

Anyway, it's so late here that it's early, good night everyone

Modifié par Fade9wayz, 01 avril 2010 - 01:46 .

[Dudedwag]

 http://social.bioware.com/brc/1691993

[Orkchop]

I'm amazed how people can be so against an option. KOTOR had an option to be full on Dark Side evil, it wasn't forced on anyone and it was a great game because of it.



And it's not like we're asking Bioware to add a stereotypical gay character to the game, either. Garrus has no romantic interest in the female Sheppard until she brings it up. All we want is something like that for same sex party members.