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How many people are for squadmates being ambigous? I rather like having my characters clearly defined in their roles including sexual orientation. The only character I want having no clear definition is shephard. It should be part of the fun for Shephard interact and reacting to with others. Making characters "different" everytime you play because you choose to be gay just seems weak (for lack of better word) to me.



With that said even having no interest in S:S relationships but I am all for characters/squadmates being gay.

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in fact, why can't there be two squadmates dating each other? do sqaudmates just wait around for shephard to hit on them?

[Ryzaki]

EA_BiowareAccount wrote...

in fact, why can't there be two squadmates dating each other? do sqaudmates just wait around for shephard to hit on them?

Supposedly. What I want to know is why Miranda is willing to hit on Ugly Shepard.

Heh would be fun if you said the wrong thing to Miranda or Jacob and they left Shep for each other. Would be too funny.

[FataliTensei]

Ryzaki wrote...

Siansonea II wrote...

I also support the increasingly unlikely inclusion of same-sex romance in ME3.

XD

But this...really...sucks.

Then again...at least I can be sure DA2 will have M/M. The first one did and BW is consistent at least.

The way they're going who knows?

[Ryzaki]

FataliTensei wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

Siansonea II wrote...

I also support the increasingly unlikely inclusion of same-sex romance in ME3.

XD

But this...really...sucks.

Then again...at least I can be sure DA2 will have M/M. The first one did and BW is consistent at least.

The way they're going who knows?

NOOOOOOOOOOO

They're already considering "streamlining" the dialogue system!

(I love how they consider "fixing" the dialogue system but the things that actually *are* broken like the combat system, the ridculous OPdness of mages and the difficulty overly loud combat music that is not adjustible and the bugs are going blissfully ignored. <_< )

Modifié par Ryzaki, 07 avril 2010 - 03:49 .

[Temper_Graniteskul]

Ryzaki wrote...

FataliTensei wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

Siansonea II wrote...

I also support the increasingly unlikely inclusion of same-sex romance in ME3.

XD

But this...really...sucks.

Then again...at least I can be sure DA2 will have M/M. The first one did and BW is consistent at least.

The way they're going who knows?

NOOOOOOOOOOO

They're already considering "streamlining" the dialogue system!

(I love how they consider "fixing" the dialogue system but the things that actually *are* broken like the combat system, the ridculous OPdness of mages and the difficulty overly loud combat music that is not adjustible and the bugs are going blissfully ignored. <_< )

Oh, hell no. Like they 'streamlined' the inventory and 'fixed' the Mako for ME2? Seriously, what do they figure was wrong with the dialogue system?

[Ryzaki]

Temper_Graniteskul wrote...

Oh, hell no. Like they 'streamlined' the inventory and 'fixed' the Mako for ME2? Seriously, what do they figure was wrong with the dialogue system?

Apparently the bouncy spolushion kiddies got mad that they actually had to talk to characters about things other than themselves to get the combat bonuses. <_<

"Oh noes! I can't help myself from metagaming so I'm going to wangst about how I have to actually talk to the characters!"

Here's Gaider's thoughts: http://social.biowar...ex/1761467&lf=8

And the thread in its entirety: http://social.biowar...7/index/1761467

I don't know what the hell is going on anymore.

Why the hell would you streamline the thing that made the game popular in the bloody first place? 

If they should be streamlining anything it should be those bloody info dumps you get from NPCs not companion dialogue.

Modifié par Ryzaki, 07 avril 2010 - 04:05 .

[FataliTensei]

Ryzaki wrote...

Temper_Graniteskul wrote...

Oh, hell no. Like they 'streamlined' the inventory and 'fixed' the Mako for ME2? Seriously, what do they figure was wrong with the dialogue system?

Apparently the bouncy spolushion kiddies got mad that they actually had to talk to characters about things other than themselves to get the combat bonuses. <_<

"Oh noes! I can't help myself from metagaming so I'm going to wangst about how I have to actually talk to the characters!"

Here's Gaider's thoughts: http://social.biowar...ex/1761467&lf=8

And the thread in its entirety: http://social.biowar...7/index/1761467

I don't know what the hell is going on anymore.

Why the hell would you streamline the thing that made the game popular in the bloody first place? 

If they should be streamlining anything it should be those bloody info dumps you get from NPCs not companion dialogue.

At this point i don't even know if i'm gonna buy ME3

[SorenTrigg]

Well, to be fair, at this point we don't know for sure what ME3 will be like. We just have to continue what we are doing, and hope.

[Temper_Graniteskul]

Sorry - we ended up a little off-topic. The dialogue streamlining discussion is for DA:O2, based on a differently structured dialogue system in DA:A. Nothing to do with ME3.

Hell, I don't even know how they'd streamline the dialogue in ME. Maybe you'd get the wheel with emoticons on it instead of text? [smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/angel.png[/smilie] = blue text, = red text, for romances, or for everything else. And for 'the priiize.'

Modifié par Temper_Graniteskul, 07 avril 2010 - 05:08 .

[Ryzaki]

Temper_Graniteskul wrote...

Sorry - we ended up a little off-topic. The dialogue streamlining discussion is for DA:O2, based on a differently structured dialogue system in DA:A. Nothing to do with ME3.

Hell, I don't even know how they'd streamline the dialogue in ME. Maybe you'd get the wheel with emoticons on it instead of text? [smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/angel.png[/smilie] = blue text, = red text, for romances, or for everything else. And for 'the priiize.'

That would actually be win.

But...teh priize.

Why BW? Why? Seriously worse BW before sex scene line *ever* it was like watching a trainwreck.

[Temper_Graniteskul]

Ryzaki wrote...

Temper_Graniteskul wrote...

Sorry - we ended up a little off-topic. The dialogue streamlining discussion is for DA:O2, based on a differently structured dialogue system in DA:A. Nothing to do with ME3.

Hell, I don't even know how they'd streamline the dialogue in ME. Maybe you'd get the wheel with emoticons on it instead of text? [smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/angel.png[/smilie] = blue text, = red text, for romances, or for everything else. And for 'the priiize.'

That would actually be win.

But...teh priize.

Why BW? Why? Seriously worse BW before sex scene line *ever* it was like watching a trainwreck.

I bet you'd have liked it if FemShep actually could have used a vomit emoticon. :happy: And then buzzed Tali or Jack up instead.

Modifié par Temper_Graniteskul, 07 avril 2010 - 05:46 .

[Ninja Mage]

Well I'd rather have the developer's still have a job and be able to feed thier family then get fired for putting a m/m romance into the game. I am glad the devs did fight to keep the content in.

[Ryzaki]

Temper_Graniteskul wrote...
I bet you'd have liked it if FemShep actually could have used a vomit emoticon. :happy: And then buzzed Tali or Jack up instead.

That...would be epic.

Ninja Mage wrote...

Well I'd rather have the developer's
still have a job and be able to feed thier family then get fired for
putting a m/m romance into the game. I am glad the devs did fight to
keep the content in.

Truth. Its nice to know they cared enough to fight for it though. Thanks BW devs that did so. <3

Hugs and Star Wars Lightsabers for everyone!
../../../images/forum/emoticons/wizard.png

Modifié par Ryzaki, 07 avril 2010 - 05:54 .

[FataliTensei]

[quote]Ryzaki wrote...

[quote]Temper_Graniteskul wrote...
I bet you'd have liked it if FemShep actually could have used a vomit emoticon. :happy: And then buzzed Tali or Jack up instead.
[/quote]

That...would be epic.

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that would be so epic, lol,

Jacob: "tehh priiiize"

Fem Shep:....:sick:

[Ninja Mage]

ValendianKnight wrote...

I would HATE it if BioWare made any of the already established characters homosexual, well, because THEY AREN'T. It would kill consistency if all of a sudden Thane became bi-sexual. Now, if they want to add a brand new character, and make him/her gay/lesbian/bisexual, I'm all for it. I think the more options the better, and I would definitely make a Shepard to explore those options.

I do NOT, however, think this is something BioWare needs to go out of their way to add, especially if it can get in the way of the quality of ANY other part of the game.

Thane was always written as bisexual. They just removed it. The dev team fought to keep it in, but where threatened with being layed-off.

[ydaraishy]

Ryzaki wrote...

Temper_Graniteskul wrote...

Oh, hell no. Like they 'streamlined' the inventory and 'fixed' the Mako for ME2? Seriously, what do they figure was wrong with the dialogue system?

Apparently the bouncy spolushion kiddies got mad that they actually had to talk to characters about things other than themselves to get the combat bonuses. <_<

"Oh noes! I can't help myself from metagaming so I'm going to wangst about how I have to actually talk to the characters!"

Here's Gaider's thoughts: http://social.biowar...ex/1761467&lf=8

And the thread in its entirety: http://social.biowar...7/index/1761467

I don't know what the hell is going on anymore.

Why the hell would you streamline the thing that made the game popular in the bloody first place? 

If they should be streamlining anything it should be those bloody info dumps you get from NPCs not companion dialogue.

Gaider's thoughts don't sound too bad actually; so long as we're not losing out on conversation I'm happy. Then again, I haven't played Awakening yet, so it might actually be implemented in a horrible way, I don't know.

[Ninja Mage]

As long as I can sleep with and romance Zevran In Dragon Age 2 or some other hunk in my party I'll be happy.

[Ryzaki]

ydaraishy wrote...
Gaider's thoughts don't sound too bad actually; so long as we're not losing out on conversation I'm happy. Then again, I haven't played Awakening yet, so it might actually be implemented in a horrible way, I don't know.

I played Awakening on someone else's comp. Game only took be about 10 hours to beat and I loathed the new convo system. It was horrible. I 'm pretty sure I missed half the conversations because I only had about 4 with each character (and only about 2 with Valenna) it was terribly paced. And...ugh. Just ugh. It was so irksome having to go to the keep or click on an object in the world to talk to someone. And those stupid conversations ambievent convos while traveling the world KEPT ON REPEATING. It drove me mad!.   The end game was all screwed up apparently a certain place got destroyed in game but according to the epilogue it was perfectly fine. Among other annoying glitches. (I got the infamous silverite mine glitch) <_< and...BAH.

Edit: Also it made me even madder because the PC version is so much better than the PS3 one. Show the PS3 some love BW!

Modifié par Ryzaki, 07 avril 2010 - 06:10 .

[Ninja Mage]

do you have a ps3 ryuuichi?

[BloodyT3hGreat]

lol Are you guys mad that Same Sex Romances won't be included in Mass Effect 3?

[FataliTensei]

Ninja Mage wrote...

do you have a ps3 ryuuichi?

I believe she said her friend has one and she plays on it

[Ryzaki]

FataliTensei wrote...

Ninja Mage wrote...

do you have a ps3 ryuuichi?

I believe she said her friend has one and she plays on it

Yeah. Cheaper that way.

*is extremely cheap* :innocent:

[Charsen]

SorenTrigg wrote...

Well, to be fair, at this point we don't know for sure what ME3 will be like. We just have to continue what we are doing, and hope.

Agreed -- wait and see. 
All of this is speculation but at least they know people care about what they decide to do.

[SirGladiator]

Its funny, I was just going back and reading some of the earlier posts, and reading that it has now been basicly confirmed that the Devs tried to put the romances we wanted in but a high level ME2 guy (obviously someone with the initials CH) forced them to cut them out. It made me rather upset, even though its something I, and probably most everybody else here, had already figured out. It seems that some are feeling a certain frustration/hopelessnes, since after all, the person who cut them out of ME2 will no doubt have the power to cut them out of ME3 also. First, even though thats true that shouldnt stop anybody here from continuing our efforts to politely and clearly ask for what we want. Secondly, I think its a good time to point out once again that our efforts are having a pretty significant effect. I hear the phrase that Mass Effect is supposed to be the 'More Mainstream' Bioware Title all the time, and no doubt that had a certain truth to it. Certainly it was expected to be far more Mainstream than DAO, maybe sell two or three times as many copies, who knows, maybe even more than that. Well, these are the up to date numbers I just found a little while ago on a website that tracks Console game sales (they dont track PC game sales, so these numbers will be based only on the Console versions).



ME2 has sold 1.62 million units through 9 weeks of sales. The VAST majority of those numbers were done very early on, before the controversy became widely known. The last two weeks of sales have been 20 thousand, and 16 thousand respectively. Its going down every single week, and its already so low its hard to imagine how much lower it could possibly get, but it keeps finding a way lower. On the other hand, sales of DAO are currently at 2.32 million units. As a means of comparision, while ME2 week 9 sales were 16 thousand, DAO's week 9 sales were 116 thousand. Its all about word of mouth. We're making a HUGE difference here, nobody in their right mind expected ME2 to sell WAY less than DAO, because after all, as they say, its supposed to be the 'more Mainstream' game, and yet what a surprise, when DAO gives the fans what they want and ME2 doesn't, now it is DAO that is a bigger franchise than ME, even on the Consoles!



Sorry to bore you with so many numbers, but my point is simply that we're making a real difference, let's not get discouraged. Even if the guy who cut our romances out of ME2 is inclined to do it again in ME3, its entirely possible that he won't be allowed to, thanks to our efforts. At a certain point the bottom line will triumph over any personal agenda one person might have, and I think we're rapidly reaching that point. Keep it up!