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#4876
Temper_Graniteskul

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SorenTrigg wrote...

I really do wonder why everyone who says 'Their sudden attraction to Shepard will be abrupt and forced and ruin the game!' are not at all bothered by Garrus and Tali.

I just have to wonder when in Mass Effect 1, Garrus and Tali talked about how dreamy Shepard was.

Only Joker knows for sure.

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"Also, Kaidan :wub:" should be mandatory when posting in this thread.

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I like Kaidan, but I think he needs a new hairstyle, the '50s pompadour doesn't really work for me.



Did anyone else catch Kasumi's reference to Kelly on the Normandy? Her initial thoughts about Kelly? I detected a distinctly lesbian subtext to that, is Ray Muzyka aware of it? If he wants to de-gay-ify Mass Effect, he's going to have to be a lot more thorough in his review of the content that gets released. We all know a woman wouldn't make a pass at another woman in the Mass Effect world, unless there was some spurious loophole like 'asari' or 'fling' to exploit. Too bad I don't have Cooper Lawrence on speed-dial...

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Temper_Graniteskul wrote...

A chick in a vaccuum-sealed bodysuit, for whom Shep was a two-year science project, is totally willing to jump MShep, and the edgy killer biotic god can only be healed by his mystical wang. No fewer than 3 sexy blue chicks in the series so far are interested in Shep, though only one of them is willing and safe to have sex with. And all of this happens when Shep's trying to save the galaxy, twice. None of this crap is remotely plausible, except in the fantasies of adolescent males. But very few people complain about any of that.


Lulz. :D

Seriously, I weeping with laughter here. Thank you.

#4880
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Temper_Graniteskul wrote...

A chick in a vaccuum-sealed bodysuit, for whom Shep was a two-year science project, is totally willing to jump MShep, and the edgy killer biotic god can only be healed by his mystical wang. No fewer than 3 sexy blue chicks in the series so far are interested in Shep, though only one of them is willing and safe to have sex with. And all of this happens when Shep's trying to save the galaxy, twice. None of this crap is remotely plausible, except in the fantasies of adolescent males. But very few people complain about any of that.


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Temper_Graniteskul wrote...

There's that 'realism' argument, again. Why does it keep coming up? It's not like the game itself is realistic or balanced in the way people seem to think represesntation of sexual orientation should be.

There's is no way, shape, or form in which my Shepard should ever be enough of a Paragon or Renegade to get the crew I had in ME2 working together. No way in hell. But nobody complains about that because, to a degree, it's what they expect - a crew with polar opposite components that should, by all rights, kill each other (literally, since you're almost guaranteed to have at least one or two people entirely supportive of I-feel-like-it homicide), working together because of the Power of Plot.

No fewer than three aliens find Shepard sexually attractive, two of whom are incompatible with Shep at the molecular level. A chick in a vaccuum-sealed bodysuit, for whom Shep was a two-year science project, is totally willing to jump MShep, and the edgy killer biotic god can only be healed by his mystical wang. No fewer than 3 sexy blue chicks in the series so far are interested in Shep, though only one of them is willing and safe to have sex with. And all of this happens when Shep's trying to save the galaxy, twice. None of this crap is remotely plausible, except in the fantasies of adolescent males. But very few people complain about any of that.

No. Instead, people complain about 'political correctness' and the idea that more than one of the existing crew could possibly be gay or bi, because 'that isn't realistic.' Given the stretches of character compatibility presented in ME2 alone, I could ask that every crew member be willing to sleep with nearly everyone except their requisite nemesis and it still wouldn't be any more unrealistic than anything else going on in the game.

Straight romances are included because Bioware considers romances an important component of the gameplay in their titles, and people enjoy them. Not because 'Tali and Jacob are way straight' and need a story outlet to express it, but because romances are a component of the gameplay. Well, same sex romances are also enjoyed by gamers - bisexual, gay, and straight - for a variety of reasons. They should be included not because it's 'politically correct' to do so, but because inclusiveness is a net positive, bisexual and gay people should not be treated as invisible, and diversity and choice enrich the game experience for everyone. There is no reason not to include s/s romance because there's no story-driven reason to include straight romance alone - there is no impact that the straight romances have on the story that same-sex ones would or could not.



Genius, I am friending you just because of this post

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Temper_Graniteskul wrote...

There's that 'realism' argument, again. Why does it keep coming up? It's not like the game itself is realistic or balanced in the way people seem to think represesntation of sexual orientation should be.

There's is no way, shape, or form in which my Shepard should ever be enough of a Paragon or Renegade to get the crew I had in ME2 working together. No way in hell. But nobody complains about that because, to a degree, it's what they expect - a crew with polar opposite components that should, by all rights, kill each other (literally, since you're almost guaranteed to have at least one or two people entirely supportive of I-feel-like-it homicide), working together because of the Power of Plot.

No fewer than three aliens find Shepard sexually attractive, two of whom are incompatible with Shep at the molecular level. A chick in a vaccuum-sealed bodysuit, for whom Shep was a two-year science project, is totally willing to jump MShep, and the edgy killer biotic god can only be healed by his mystical wang. No fewer than 3 sexy blue chicks in the series so far are interested in Shep, though only one of them is willing and safe to have sex with. And all of this happens when Shep's trying to save the galaxy, twice. None of this crap is remotely plausible, except in the fantasies of adolescent males. But very few people complain about any of that.

No. Instead, people complain about 'political correctness' and the idea that more than one of the existing crew could possibly be gay or bi, because 'that isn't realistic.' Given the stretches of character compatibility presented in ME2 alone, I could ask that every crew member be willing to sleep with nearly everyone except their requisite nemesis and it still wouldn't be any more unrealistic than anything else going on in the game.

Straight romances are included because Bioware considers romances an important component of the gameplay in their titles, and people enjoy them. Not because 'Tali and Jacob are way straight' and need a story outlet to express it, but because romances are a component of the gameplay. Well, same sex romances are also enjoyed by gamers - bisexual, gay, and straight - for a variety of reasons. They should be included not because it's 'politically correct' to do so, but because inclusiveness is a net positive, bisexual and gay people should not be treated as invisible, and diversity and choice enrich the game experience for everyone. There is no reason not to include s/s romance because there's no story-driven reason to include straight romance alone - there is no impact that the straight romances have on the story that same-sex ones would or could not.


You win the internet! :wizard:

#4883
BloodyT3hGreat

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If you support Same Sex Romances for ME3 , Your a sick ****



Bioware already said it WON'T be included in ME3



Sauce: Kotaku.com

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BloodyT3hGreat wrote...

If you support Same Sex Romances for ME3 , Your a sick ****

Bioware already said it WON'T be included in ME3

Sauce: Kotaku.com


Okay usually I ignore trolls such as yourself but what the hell I'm in the mood for some lulz.

Where pray tell does it say that their won't be an SSR in ME3? :huh: Seriously I'm dying to know.

BTW Genius there is going to be a s/s romance in ME3. LiaraxFemShep.

Not to bright are you? :lol:

Modifié par Ryzaki, 07 avril 2010 - 09:15 .


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RyrineaNara

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BloodyT3hGreat wrote...

If you support Same Sex Romances for ME3 , Your a sick ****

Bioware already said it WON'T be included in ME3

Sauce: Kotaku.com


Your sir are a idtio.......... <_<

#4886
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Also, we take trolls more seriously if they can spell.

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SorenTrigg

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Keep in mind, even if they do not include anything else, Liara will still be in ME3.

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RyrineaNara

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He really does need to use spell checker doesn't he.

#4889
catabuca

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Also, I'm reporting that post for suggesting that anyone who supports s/s is sick. That's homophobia right there, folks. Please use your clicky-reporty finger and report when you see it.

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RyrineaNara

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Cat just reported the sucker as well.

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BloodyT3hGreat

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RyrineaNara wrote...

BloodyT3hGreat wrote...

If you support Same Sex Romances for ME3 , Your a sick ****

Bioware already said it WON'T be included in ME3

Sauce: Kotaku.com


Your sir are a idtio.......... <_<



Lol Itio?

And why the hell would anyone want Same Sex Romance???? The whole entire board thinks you people are crazy!

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BloodyT3hGreat

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catabuca wrote...

Also, I'm reporting that post for suggesting that anyone who supports s/s is sick. That's homophobia right there, folks. Please use your clicky-reporty finger and report when you see it.




lol Umad???

#4894
BloodyT3hGreat

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catabuca wrote...

Also, we take trolls more seriously if they can spell.



Note i meant to type SAUCE  not SOURCE

Fail More?

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RyrineaNara wrote...

Cat just reported the sucker as well.


Good on you :)

On the subject of Liara returning, of course this will make loads of people happy, and I really hope her romance is continuable, even though I never pursue it.

(I'm a Kaidan girl through and through, for my femShep and manShep (only, manShep has to 'put the mission first' since the opportunity for them to express their love never arises).)

It's important there is a m/m option this time around, else these boards will no doubt explode more so than ever before!

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RyrineaNara

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Sir not every person in the forum thinks were are crazy. Please check your spelling its atrocious.. People like you are the reason there is  so much hate in the world.. You sir just proved your're a idiot.

Modifié par RyrineaNara, 07 avril 2010 - 09:25 .


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BloodyT3hGreat wrote...

catabuca wrote...

Also, we take trolls more seriously if they can spell.



Note i meant to type SAUCE  not SOURCE

Fail More?


Did you mean to type 'your' too? :whistle:

#4898
BloodyT3hGreat

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LOL Using "Grammar Check Spelling's" as comebacks really are hurtful :(



OMG STOP OMG STOP IT :( :( :( :(



So i misspell one word, And?

#4899
RyrineaNara

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His typing skills are atrocious, and his spelling sucks as well. I tend to think Liara will return, but somehow it will be during the heat of the battle. Kaidan/Ashely, or Liara will somehow  rescue you, since you were paying attention to the enemy, and did not notice the Husk, Collector/New Enemy coming at you.

Modifié par RyrineaNara, 07 avril 2010 - 09:30 .


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catabuca

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Anyway, and I say this to myself as well, let's not get sidelined talking about spelling. A deal of the pro-s/s posters aren't shining examples of high literacy either ;-)



Back to the discussion in hand.



I was away for a while, and the thread grew by about 100 pages in my absence. Can anyone sum up for me the arguments on implementation of s/s?



Last time I was here I stated I was against it being treated any differently to the way current romance options are handled, and that all that needed addressing was the current problems with ninja'ing, with not being able to let someone down easily (rectifiable via not having ninja'ing in the first place), and the ability to forge friendships with people instead of 'sex-or-nothing'.