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[Siansonea]

MsKlaussen wrote...

Always the plan B of the closed minded. When push comes to shove, mock.

For those attempting to redefine my point to mean that because I listed hypothetical changes that can't be made, that their entire wish list is invalid, whatever it takes for you to feel righteous hey, go for it. But as for the whining about how broken up you are about not being able to have intelligent conversations with people with opposing viewpoints, save it. I've not mocked one of you, or told any of you that you had no right to your opinions. Funny how when your bluff is called and someone tries to engage you intelligently you become just what you despise: a mocking, labeling, mob that views anything not in line with their views as worthless.

Why don't I run and go make a thread about what I don't like? Because it's more fun to concentrate on what I do like, and when I get bored with that, I have a big a** power button to deal with the undesireable. It's really that simple.

Good luck with the war.

I think my main issue with your point is that you equate being unable to fine-tune an aspect of Shepard's appearance, and being unable to change the sequence of events to your satisfaction, with the exclusion of same-sex content. Certainly the game would be improved if Shepard's appearance offered more options, and the game would also be much more enjoyable if the player could affect the sequence of events in a more meaningful way. But no one is truly disenfranchised by these design choices. It does not make a statement of any kind. The exclusion of same-sex content when much more trivial content IS included is the issue at hand, and we merely wish to show that there is considerable hypocrisy and doubletalk on Bioware's part in regards to this issue. I agree that we should keep the conversation civil. I also agree that if other content is desired, customers should not be shy about asking for it. Clearly the inclusion of the Tali and Garrus romance options are due to the fanbase repeatedly requesting these options. If they can let Shepard have romances with aliens that he or she cannot even share a meal with, same sex romances should not be that much of a stretch.

Modifié par Siansonea II, 09 avril 2010 - 12:43 .

[Sabul]

That was my hope for the Drell up until game release nothing was ever said of female Drell. Feron in the comic and Thane that was it. Both were male. As it stands only three were ever shown and all were male. However it is known Thane had a wife so if she were Drell it destroyed my dreams of the perfect planet. If the Asari are Amazons the males would be what?

Modifié par Sabul, 09 avril 2010 - 01:02 .

[SorenTrigg]

Eh...I am not really sure how I would feel about an all male race. It just...seems like a cop-out.



Plus then there would be all the people going on about how 'they aren't really male! They are mono-gendered!' like they do with the asari now.

[Sabul]

That would certainly be interesting and something to hope for. That is if I even decide to pick up the third game.

[Sabul]

I no longer trust them to not wish to milk the series for a few more games.

[Siansonea]

An all-male species is not viable. How would they reproduce? Males are inherently unable to incubate eggs or live young, they serve only to fertilize females. A species can do without males, but females are necessary if the species is to survive.

[Sabul]

Siansonea II wrote...

An all-male species is not viable. How would they reproduce? Males are inherently unable to incubate eggs or live young, they serve only to fertilize females. A species can do without males, but females are necessary if the species is to survive.

The idea was they could reproduce in the same way the Asari do. What with none of that being required. I am sure something creative could be come up with or they could all just be cloned and grown in a lab. Not a viable start for a species but a way to go on after a point.

[Ryzaki]

JohnnyDollar wrote...

Siansonea II wrote...

An all-male species is not viable. How would they reproduce? Males are inherently unable to incubate eggs or live young, they serve only to fertilize females. A species can do without males, but females are necessary if the species is to survive.

Now your wanting details.
They could do it somehow.  Perhaps they could have discovered a race on their planet that acts as some sort of a symbiant that incubates the egg and carries it and delivers the child for them. 

The Asari can breed with about any species male or female in the galaxy.  Perhaps their male counterparts has some internal female child bearing equipment.:innocent:

Wouldn't that make them hermaphodites? 

[Sabul]

Why not just have offspring grow out their backs or something even more absurd?

Modifié par Sabul, 09 avril 2010 - 01:29 .

[Siansonea]

The asari bear young as human females do. If another species that was male in appearance, and had typical male genitalia, was also able to bear young, they would still be female, regardless of appearance. Reproductive gender has nothing to do with appearance.

Perhaps an alternative is a race similar in concept to the incubus, the mythological demons that had intercourse with human females and sometimes impregnated them with demonic babies. Obviously the religious overtones would be dispensed with, and the species would simply require a female of another species to carry its young to term or lay eggs or whatever, but because of the nature of the all-male race, the child is always another male of that species, without the mother species' DNA contributing to the child.

Modifié par Siansonea II, 09 avril 2010 - 01:32 .

[cynicalmicahel]

Is it so bad that I view this much as I do in real life? What happenes behind closed doors (or on your own private console or PC) is no one's business but the owner of the door or console or pc. Just the way I view it. I mean face it... when you creat a character in these games the half booty fantasy it that the character is YOU, and if you are gay straight etc then you want that character to be a more accurate representation of who you are as a person. Or in some cases the exact opposite. But the bottom line is that it is not for anyone to say who or what anyone else is allowed to love in this life or the digital one.

See, I know that it is Ok for the Asari to be all female because there is something kind of sexy about a race of all female leather clad gun toting hotties. But, again that is also because the demographic of gamers is predominantly male. And if you notice that there is few few people complainig about that.

Another argument I can bring in (again) is Fable. In Fable 2 you can be either gender and fall in love with/marry/have intercourse with either gender, and no one was turned to the other team by the expierence. If you do not want a gay character then do not make one. It is as easy as that. But if youdo then the option is there. And few will argue that those option killed a great game.

[dadrowranger]

social.bioware.com/brc/621867

[Sabul]

Siansonea II: I was actually thinking of something similar. My only issue with it is how were they able to reproduce prior to space travel? Less on their own planet there existed a race of females as well not the same species but capable of reproducing with themselves or anything else.

Modifié par Sabul, 09 avril 2010 - 01:35 .

[Siansonea]

There could be a dual-gendered species that sometimes agrees to carry the young for the Incubus species. But really this discussion is going to run into another brick wall, the same one that is run into with the asari. The theoretical Incubus species would be mono-gendered, but they would still be male, so if male Shepard were to romance one of them, it would still be homosexual in nature. And since m/m is less socially acceptable than f/f, there's little likelihood that Bioware will pursue an idea like this. Their stance on this issue is abundantly clear.

Modifié par Siansonea II, 09 avril 2010 - 01:40 .

[Sabul]

Once again it brings up the question what did they do prior to developing the technology to do so?

[RedTracer7]

I hate to say it, but it really wouldn't faze me one way or the other on Samesex romance.



I'm more of the juvenile-ly minded crowd who is cool with f/f as long as they both are hot. And seeing as ME has a "no fatties policy", we should be in the clear.



Lulz.

[Sabul]

Siansonea II wrote...

There could be a dual-gendered species that sometimes agrees to carry the young for the Incubus species. But really this discussion is going to run into another brick wall, the same one that is run into with the asari. The theoretical Incubus species would be mono-gendered, but they would still be male, so if male Shepard were to romance one of them, it would still be homosexual in nature. And since m/m is less socially acceptable than f/f, there's little likelihood that Bioware will pursue an idea like this. Their stance on this issue is abundantly clear.

Indeed this is true. It is still interesting to muse upon somewhat. Even if I have all but lost my interest in the universe with no place for me.