spacehamsterZH wrote...
MagicalSarai wrote...
If garrus goes for FemShep... Garrus is straight, but if he goes for MaleShep that doesn't make him, not straight. It means he's still trying humans... because he is attracted to who and what Shep is. Geeze... it's not like making him bi-sexual would destroy the universe or even his character.
I don't like the idea of characters being intentionally changed to appease the part of the fanbase that mistakes these games for dating sims. I feel the same way about Tali and Garrus suddenly being "revealed to be" attracted to their respective opposite sex Shepards. It cheapens not only these characters but the game as a whole because I'm left with the feeling that there's really no particular vision behind who these characters are and they'll be changed for stupid reasons. Sorry. I wouldn't have one bit of a problem with the idea of any of these characters being homosexual or bi if it had always been an established part of their personalities, but if it's tacked on after the fact because people are demanding it, it feels to me like the writers don't really give a damn who these characters are.
Being interested in good dialogue and decent character interaction within the romances Bioware includes in their games, and discussing opinions on how improvements could be made to them, does
not mean that anyone considers this a 'dating sim.' Diverse content and realism (to a point) should not be limited only to combat physics - it should carry over to the non-combat portions of the game as well, and that includes the inter-party relationships (romance and non-romance). That doesn't make ME as a whole a 'dating sim,' any more than attention to the physics and weapon design make the game a 'combat sim.'
This thread discusses one aspect of the ME games. It is not required to include discussion of other topics regarding gameplay, characterization, story continuity, or anything else in order to make it clear that it's for discussion of
one aspect of the ME games. Asking for changes and making suggestions in this area is no different from complaining about the replacement of the overheat mechanic with ammo, requesting co-op play or space battles, or commenting on how character model animations or biotic/tech combat could be improved.
As for the last bit, there's some disagreement on what exactly constitutes "if it had always been an established part of their personalities." Some, like Collider, consider only the finished game when making that judgment. Others, like myself, look at content that was developed then either removed or not implemented for the final game, like Kaidan/Ashley, or partially implemented even in the final game, like Tali, as reasons to support including those characters as s/s LIs for ME3 or DLC. Ultimately, though, we don't really know what the writers actually planned for these characters - or even if they all agreed on what the characters should be like. All we have to go on are the files that made it into the game and the ones left stranded on the discs.
If some of the writers came out later and said 'we meant for Ashley and Kaidan to be open to romances with both male and female Shepards from the beginning, but were vetoed,' would you consider adding that quality back in to be unacceptable retconning? Especially if the only reason it was added back in was because some very vocal players demanded it, independent of what the writers had intended?
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