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[The_KFD_Case]

Tirigon wrote...

Ever heard of plastic surgery?!

Oh, and it was failed surgery. Samara is probably the ugliest asari in the game.

Tastes differ apparently. Samara is the first Asari I found myself strongly attracted to out of either of the ME games.

[Tirigon]

The_KFD_Case wrote...


Tastes differ apparently. Samara is the first Asari I found myself strongly attracted to out of either of the ME games.

That´s just perfect!

Hey, you can have her and I get all the others. Deal?:devil::devil:

[Ryzaki]

What if the incubus had some allure that made other races want to stay near them? (Kind of a stronger version of the Asari allure). Would that work?

[sw33ts]

Tirigon wrote...

LiquidGrape wrote...

Ever heard of plastic surgery?!

Oh, and it was failed surgery. Samara is probably the ugliest asari in the game.

=O

Ugly?  Those eyes and...those...lower eyes.

I find that Nasarri or w/e her name is who keeps getting herself in some messed up situations "ugly."  Those facial tattoos do nothing for me.  And if I weren't such a high paragon when I met her the 2nd time I would've shot her.

[The_KFD_Case]

Tirigon wrote...

The_KFD_Case wrote...


Tastes differ apparently. Samara is the first Asari I found myself strongly attracted to out of either of the ME games.

That´s just perfect!

Hey, you can have her and I get all the others. Deal?:devil::devil:

Done!

Should things fall apart I'll only have to deal with one broken relationship and/or alimony.

Modifié par The_KFD_Case, 27 avril 2010 - 09:21 .

[The_KFD_Case]

Ryzaki wrote...

What if the incubus had some allure that made other races want to stay near them? (Kind of a stronger version of the Asari allure). Would that work?

I was just contemplating that notion. Such a species might evolve to be very charismatic, charming, and smooth (at least on the surface) in order to lure potential mates to stay with them on their homeworld. This also pre-supposes that their homeworld is more-or-less hospitable to the alien mothers, or that there are facilities availble that allows for alien mothers to survive on the planet (which raises the issue of whether the species is technologically advanced enough and/or wealthy enough to afford such constructs).

Modifié par The_KFD_Case, 27 avril 2010 - 09:26 .

[Siansonea]

sw33ts wrote...

Tirigon wrote...

LiquidGrape wrote...

Ever heard of plastic surgery?!

Oh, and it was failed surgery. Samara is probably the ugliest asari in the game.

=O

Ugly?  Those eyes and...those...lower eyes.

I find that Nasarri or w/e her name is who keeps getting herself in some messed up situations "ugly."  Those facial tattoos do nothing for me.  And if I weren't such a high paragon when I met her the 2nd time I would've shot her.

I think you mean asari, not Nasarri. And I think you're referring to Rana Thanoptis from Saren's office on Virmire and Okeer's lab in ME2. I don't think she represents the ideal of asari beauty either.

[Ryzaki]

The_KFD_Case wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

What if the incubus had some allure that made other races want to stay near them? (Kind of a stronger version of the Asari allure). Would that work?

I was just contemplating that notion. Such a species might evolve to be very charismatic, charming, and smooth (at least on the surface) in order to lure potential mates to stay with them on their homeworld. This also pre-supposes that their homeworld is more-or-less hospitable to the alien mothers.

Hm...maybe the stalk down their prey and make sure its a species that can handle the planet? Or perhaps they leave their homeworld and live with the female species on her planet? 

...Hey they don't have to make too much sense. The Asari don't after all.

[sw33ts]

Siansonea II wrote...

sw33ts wrote...

Tirigon wrote...

LiquidGrape wrote...

Ever heard of plastic surgery?!

Oh, and it was failed surgery. Samara is probably the ugliest asari in the game.

=O

Ugly?  Those eyes and...those...lower eyes.

I find that Nasarri or w/e her name is who keeps getting herself in some messed up situations "ugly."  Those facial tattoos do nothing for me.  And if I weren't such a high paragon when I met her the 2nd time I would've shot her.

I think you mean asari, not Nasarri. And I think you're referring to Rana Thanoptis from Saren's office on Virmire and Okeer's lab in ME2. I don't think she represents the ideal of asari beauty either.

Ah yes.  For some reason I thought her name was Nixarus...but that's someone else and I decided to mix asari and Nixarus together.  But Rana is nowhere near close to Nixarus lol.

[Siansonea]

The_KFD_Case wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

What if the incubus had some allure that made other races want to stay near them? (Kind of a stronger version of the Asari allure). Would that work?

I was just contemplating that notion. Such a species might evolve to be very charismatic, charming, and smooth (at least on the surface) in order to lure potential mates to stay with them on their homeworld. This also pre-supposes that their homeworld is more-or-less hospitable to the alien mothers.

All the obstacles are simply a matter of writing. No frame models for krogan females? They live in another camp. No budget/disk space for new world/station designs? Have everything happen on Omega and Illium. And they don't even have to explain anything, as we have seen with asari. They can just say they're an 'all-male' race and watch us scurry around asking all the pertinent question, while remaining mum themselves.

For my part, I envision the incubus species to be very charismatic, and to bond with and cohabitate with the mother species until the child incubus is old enough to either become emancipated or live with the incubus parent. And just because I'm using demonic terminology does not mean I imagine these beings to be 'evil'. They might elicit the help of the mother aliens by very aboveboard means or very underhanded means, I imagine it would vary by individual. Perhaps they could even have some ability to biotically camouflage themselves to resemble other species, at least superficially. Since I imagine them evolving on Thessia, I picture them being naturally biotic like asari, but perhaps more subtle in the expression of the biotics. Essentially the camouflage could consist of a highly-tuned biotic corona/barrier.

[The_KFD_Case]

Ryzaki wrote...

The_KFD_Case wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

What if the incubus had some allure that made other races want to stay near them? (Kind of a stronger version of the Asari allure). Would that work?

I was just contemplating that notion. Such a species might evolve to be very charismatic, charming, and smooth (at least on the surface) in order to lure potential mates to stay with them on their homeworld. This also pre-supposes that their homeworld is more-or-less hospitable to the alien mothers.

Hm...maybe the stalk down their prey and make sure its a species that can handle the planet? Or perhaps they leave their homeworld and live with the female species on her planet? 

...Hey they don't have to make too much sense. The Asari don't after all.

Heheh. Possibly. It just occured to me what the main hurdle appears to be; it seems so obvious in retrospect that it seems we should have stumbled upon it sooner. If the red skinned, handsome devil, all male race is all male and only serve to impregnate an alien species and where their genetic make-up hijacks the genetic make-up of the alien mother's genetic make-up, then how did this all-male species ever manage to reproduce and survive to begin with on their planet before discovering other sapient, compatible species to mate with (or were discovered by them)? 

Maybe we can half-heartedly chalk it up to evolution, yet in that case might it not make more sense from an evolutionary perspective for the all-male species to either evolve in to a two gender (or more) species, a hermaphroditic species (no sexual intercourse required with another individual in order to reproduce), or a species seemingly female in nature akin to the Asari?

P.S. Or.....perhaps this all-male species can also impregnate other males....

Modifié par The_KFD_Case, 27 avril 2010 - 09:35 .

[Siansonea]

sw33ts wrote...


Ah yes.  For some reason I thought her name was Nixarus...but that's someone else and I decided to mix asari and Nixarus together.  But Rana is nowhere near close to Nixarus lol.

Oh, you mean Nyxeris, Liara T'Soni's aide on Illium. Yeah, she's a whole lot of ugly.

[Ryzaki]

The_KFD_Case wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

The_KFD_Case wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

What if the incubus had some allure that made other races want to stay near them? (Kind of a stronger version of the Asari allure). Would that work?

I was just contemplating that notion. Such a species might evolve to be very charismatic, charming, and smooth (at least on the surface) in order to lure potential mates to stay with them on their homeworld. This also pre-supposes that their homeworld is more-or-less hospitable to the alien mothers.

Hm...maybe the stalk down their prey and make sure its a species that can handle the planet? Or perhaps they leave their homeworld and live with the female species on her planet? 

...Hey they don't have to make too much sense. The Asari don't after all.

Heheh. Possibly. It just occured to me what the main hurdle appears to be; it seems so obvious in retrospect that it seems we should have stumbled upon it sooner. If the red skinned, handsome devil, all male race is all male and only serve to impregnate an alien species and where their genetic make-up hijacks the genetic make-up of the alien mother's genetic make-up, then how did this all-male species ever manage to reproduce and survive to begin with on their planet before discovering other sapient, compatible species to mate with (or were discovered by them)? 

Maybe we can half-heartedly chalk it up to evolution, yet in that case might it not make more sense from an evolutionary perspective for the all-male species to either evole in to a two gender (or more) species, a hermaphroditic species (no sexual intercourse required with another individual in order to reproduce), or a species seemingly female in nature akin to the Asari?

Hm...maybe there was a sister race on their planet originally but some strange disease killed them all? And those that were immune to the disease gained the magical impregancy of other races gene? And maybe the disease was introduced by a now extinct species that no one knew about that has a connection to the Reapers. (Wouldn't be the first thing to come out of nowhere in this series).

What? I'm not a science major!

[LiquidGrape]

Siansonea II wrote...

Oh, you mean Nyxeris, Liara T'Soni's aide on Illium. Yeah, she's a whole lot of ugly.

I feel so vain for admitting it, but the moment her face filled the screen I thought:

"Wow. That's the first genuinely unattractive asari I've seen."

[Siansonea]

The_KFD_Case wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

The_KFD_Case wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

What if the incubus had some allure that made other races want to stay near them? (Kind of a stronger version of the Asari allure). Would that work?

I was just contemplating that notion. Such a species might evolve to be very charismatic, charming, and smooth (at least on the surface) in order to lure potential mates to stay with them on their homeworld. This also pre-supposes that their homeworld is more-or-less hospitable to the alien mothers.

Hm...maybe the stalk down their prey and make sure its a species that can handle the planet? Or perhaps they leave their homeworld and live with the female species on her planet? 

...Hey they don't have to make too much sense. The Asari don't after all.

Heheh. Possibly. It just occured to me what the main hurdle appears to be; it seems so obvious in retrospect that it seems we should have stumbled upon it sooner. If the red skinned, handsome devil, all male race is all male and only serve to impregnate an alien species and where their genetic make-up hijacks the genetic make-up of the alien mother's genetic make-up, then how did this all-male species ever manage to reproduce and survive to begin with on their planet before discovering other sapient, compatible species to mate with (or were discovered by them)? 

Maybe we can half-heartedly chalk it up to evolution, yet in that case might it not make more sense from an evolutionary perspective for the all-male species to either evolve in to a two gender (or more) species, a hermaphroditic species (no sexual intercourse required with another individual in order to reproduce), or a species seemingly female in nature akin to the Asari?

If they evolved on Thessia, then the likeliest mother species they would use is the asari themselves. It would be an instance in which the asari gives birth to a non-asari child. Perhaps it could even be a situation in which when an incubus and an asari mate, the species of the child is almost always an asari, but is occasionally an incubus. It could also be an interesting link to the ardat-yakshi phenomenon. Perhaps this condition is prevalent in a bloodline in which
there is an incubus parent somewhere in the lineage.

[sw33ts]

Lol. They're both pretty ugly, but originally I was talking about Rana but got her name confused with Nyxeris + asari. Finals mess up my brain. Lol.



This whole sole male species is quite interesting.

[The_KFD_Case]

Ryzaki wrote...

The_KFD_Case wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

The_KFD_Case wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

What if the incubus had some allure that made other races want to stay near them? (Kind of a stronger version of the Asari allure). Would that work?

I was just contemplating that notion. Such a species might evolve to be very charismatic, charming, and smooth (at least on the surface) in order to lure potential mates to stay with them on their homeworld. This also pre-supposes that their homeworld is more-or-less hospitable to the alien mothers.

Hm...maybe the stalk down their prey and make sure its a species that can handle the planet? Or perhaps they leave their homeworld and live with the female species on her planet? 

...Hey they don't have to make too much sense. The Asari don't after all.

Heheh. Possibly. It just occured to me what the main hurdle appears to be; it seems so obvious in retrospect that it seems we should have stumbled upon it sooner. If the red skinned, handsome devil, all male race is all male and only serve to impregnate an alien species and where their genetic make-up hijacks the genetic make-up of the alien mother's genetic make-up, then how did this all-male species ever manage to reproduce and survive to begin with on their planet before discovering other sapient, compatible species to mate with (or were discovered by them)? 

Maybe we can half-heartedly chalk it up to evolution, yet in that case might it not make more sense from an evolutionary perspective for the all-male species to either evole in to a two gender (or more) species, a hermaphroditic species (no sexual intercourse required with another individual in order to reproduce), or a species seemingly female in nature akin to the Asari?

Hm...maybe there was a sister race on their planet originally but some strange disease killed them all? And those that were immune to the disease gained the magical impregancy of other races gene? And maybe the disease was introduced by a now extinct species that no one knew about that has a connection to the Reapers. (Wouldn't be the first thing to come out of nowhere in this series).

What? I'm not a science major!

I added this while you were posting your above comments.

"P.S. Or.....perhaps this all-male species can also impregnate other
males....../../../../images/forum/emoticons/pouty.png"

[The_KFD_Case]

Siansonea II wrote...

If they evolved on Thessia, then the likeliest mother species they would use is the asari themselves. It would be an instance in which the asari gives birth to a non-asari child. Perhaps it could even be a situation in which when an incubus and an asari mate, the species of the child is almost always an asari, but is occasionally an incubus. It could also be an interesting link to the ardat-yakshi phenomenon. Perhaps this condition is prevalent in a bloodline in which
there is an incubus parent somewhere in the lineage.

Theoretically and speculatively it is conceivable, yet personally I would have a harder time swallowing such a revelation coming from left field out of nowhere given the information that already exists about Thessia and the Asari. Sure, it could conveniently be brushed aside by BioWare as some more information that just hadn't been made available yet....A bit too "convenient" for my tastes, but it's their creative work, so they get to call the shots.

It may be pertinent to point out that so far all of the advanced, sapient species we've come across in the ME universe (to my knowledge,) have been the sole major civilizations on each of their respective home planets. Even the Asari likely ran around wielding flint tipped spears and huddled around fires in times long gone by (such times when the Ardat-Yakshi were worshipped as gods,) and while the Asari are one of the most tolerant and nurturing sapient species around in the ME universe that we know of, they weren't necessarily always that way and they have also shown themselves not to be above petty violence. It is not difficult for me to envision to sapient species ending up in violent conflict on the same planet, with one species perhaps eventually wiping the other out. A similar comparison may be made to ****** Sapiens and Neanderthals. While our own real-life human history may not have nailed that notion down just yet, it is conceivable that our ancestors once competed directly with an earlier version of the humanoid family tree.

Modifié par The_KFD_Case, 27 avril 2010 - 09:45 .

[Siansonea]

The_KFD_Case wrote...

Siansonea II wrote...

If they evolved on Thessia, then the likeliest mother species they would use is the asari themselves. It would be an instance in which the asari gives birth to a non-asari child. Perhaps it could even be a situation in which when an incubus and an asari mate, the species of the child is almost always an asari, but is occasionally an incubus. It could also be an interesting link to the ardat-yakshi phenomenon. Perhaps this condition is prevalent in a bloodline in which
there is an incubus parent somewhere in the lineage.

Theoretically and speculatively it is conceivable, yet personally I would have a harder time swallowing such a revelation coming from left field out of nowhere given the information that already exists about Thessia and the Asari. Sure, it could conveniently be brushed aside by BioWare as some more information that just hadn't been made available yet....A bit too "convenient" for my tastes, but it's their creative work, so they get to call the shots.

I agree, but it is fun to speculate on how such a species might come to be.

[Ryzaki]

The_KFD_Case wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

The_KFD_Case wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

The_KFD_Case wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

What if the incubus had some allure that made other races want to stay near them? (Kind of a stronger version of the Asari allure). Would that work?

I was just contemplating that notion. Such a species might evolve to be very charismatic, charming, and smooth (at least on the surface) in order to lure potential mates to stay with them on their homeworld. This also pre-supposes that their homeworld is more-or-less hospitable to the alien mothers.

Hm...maybe the stalk down their prey and make sure its a species that can handle the planet? Or perhaps they leave their homeworld and live with the female species on her planet? 

...Hey they don't have to make too much sense. The Asari don't after all.

Heheh. Possibly. It just occured to me what the main hurdle appears to be; it seems so obvious in retrospect that it seems we should have stumbled upon it sooner. If the red skinned, handsome devil, all male race is all male and only serve to impregnate an alien species and where their genetic make-up hijacks the genetic make-up of the alien mother's genetic make-up, then how did this all-male species ever manage to reproduce and survive to begin with on their planet before discovering other sapient, compatible species to mate with (or were discovered by them)? 

Maybe we can half-heartedly chalk it up to evolution, yet in that case might it not make more sense from an evolutionary perspective for the all-male species to either evole in to a two gender (or more) species, a hermaphroditic species (no sexual intercourse required with another individual in order to reproduce), or a species seemingly female in nature akin to the Asari?

Hm...maybe there was a sister race on their planet originally but some strange disease killed them all? And those that were immune to the disease gained the magical impregancy of other races gene? And maybe the disease was introduced by a now extinct species that no one knew about that has a connection to the Reapers. (Wouldn't be the first thing to come out of nowhere in this series).

What? I'm not a science major!

I added this while you were posting your above comments.

"P.S. Or.....perhaps this all-male species can also impregnate other
males....../../../../images/forum/emoticons/pouty.png"

But would the act of being impreganted not make them male any longer?  Wouldn't they just turn into some hermpadite species?

Also MShep being preggers would be hysterical but...too weird.

[Siansonea]

Ryzaki wrote...

The_KFD_Case wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

The_KFD_Case wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

The_KFD_Case wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

What if the incubus had some allure that made other races want to stay near them? (Kind of a stronger version of the Asari allure). Would that work?

I was just contemplating that notion. Such a species might evolve to be very charismatic, charming, and smooth (at least on the surface) in order to lure potential mates to stay with them on their homeworld. This also pre-supposes that their homeworld is more-or-less hospitable to the alien mothers.

Hm...maybe the stalk down their prey and make sure its a species that can handle the planet? Or perhaps they leave their homeworld and live with the female species on her planet? 

...Hey they don't have to make too much sense. The Asari don't after all.

Heheh. Possibly. It just occured to me what the main hurdle appears to be; it seems so obvious in retrospect that it seems we should have stumbled upon it sooner. If the red skinned, handsome devil, all male race is all male and only serve to impregnate an alien species and where their genetic make-up hijacks the genetic make-up of the alien mother's genetic make-up, then how did this all-male species ever manage to reproduce and survive to begin with on their planet before discovering other sapient, compatible species to mate with (or were discovered by them)? 

Maybe we can half-heartedly chalk it up to evolution, yet in that case might it not make more sense from an evolutionary perspective for the all-male species to either evole in to a two gender (or more) species, a hermaphroditic species (no sexual intercourse required with another individual in order to reproduce), or a species seemingly female in nature akin to the Asari?

Hm...maybe there was a sister race on their planet originally but some strange disease killed them all? And those that were immune to the disease gained the magical impregancy of other races gene? And maybe the disease was introduced by a now extinct species that no one knew about that has a connection to the Reapers. (Wouldn't be the first thing to come out of nowhere in this series).

What? I'm not a science major!

I added this while you were posting your above comments.

"P.S. Or.....perhaps this all-male species can also impregnate other
males....../../../../images/forum/emoticons/pouty.png"

But would the act of being impreganted not make them male any longer?  Wouldn't they just turn into some hermpadite species?

Also MShep being preggers would be hysterical but...too weird.

There's a way around this. If the incubus impregnates another male, it could really be a form of parasitism/symbiosis, in which the fetus lives inside the host's body during gestation, and is somehow birthed through an artificial orifice in the abdomen or something, perhaps the belly button opens, distends and the baby emerges from it. Then the placenta and pseudouterus would also be expelled.

[The_KFD_Case]

Siansonea II wrote...

The_KFD_Case wrote...

Theoretically and speculatively it is conceivable, yet personally I would have a harder time swallowing such a revelation coming from left field out of nowhere given the information that already exists about Thessia and the Asari. Sure, it could conveniently be brushed aside by BioWare as some more information that just hadn't been made available yet....A bit too "convenient" for my tastes, but it's their creative work, so they get to call the shots.

It may be pertinent to point out that so far all of the advanced,
sapient species we've come across in the ME universe (to my knowledge,)
have been the sole major civilizations on each of their respective home
planets. Even the Asari likely ran around wielding flint tipped spears
and huddled around fires in times long gone by (such times when the
Ardat-Yakshi were worshipped as gods,) and while the Asari are one of
the most tolerant and nurturing sapient species around in the ME
universe that we know of, they weren't necessarily always that way and
they have also shown themselves not to be above petty violence. It is
not difficult for me to envision to sapient species ending up in violent
conflict on the same planet, with one species perhaps eventually wiping
the other out. A similar comparison may be made to ****** Sapiens and
Neanderthals. While our own real-life human history may not have nailed
that notion down just yet, it is conceivable that our ancestors once
competed directly with an earlier version of the humanoid family tree.

I agree, but it is fun to speculate on how such a species might come to be.

Reposting italicized text.

[The_KFD_Case]

Siansonea II wrote...

There's a way around this. If the incubus impregnates another male, it could really be a form of parasitism/symbiosis, in which the fetus lives inside the host's body during gestation, and is somehow birthed through an artificial orifice in the abdomen or something, perhaps the belly button opens, distends and the baby emerges from it. Then the placenta and pseudouterus would also be expelled.

Yeah....I'm definitely not sold on going out on a date with such a creature.

[Ryzaki]

Siansonea II wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

The_KFD_Case wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

The_KFD_Case wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

The_KFD_Case wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

What if the incubus had some allure that made other races want to stay near them? (Kind of a stronger version of the Asari allure). Would that work?

I was just contemplating that notion. Such a species might evolve to be very charismatic, charming, and smooth (at least on the surface) in order to lure potential mates to stay with them on their homeworld. This also pre-supposes that their homeworld is more-or-less hospitable to the alien mothers.

Hm...maybe the stalk down their prey and make sure its a species that can handle the planet? Or perhaps they leave their homeworld and live with the female species on her planet? 

...Hey they don't have to make too much sense. The Asari don't after all.

Heheh. Possibly. It just occured to me what the main hurdle appears to be; it seems so obvious in retrospect that it seems we should have stumbled upon it sooner. If the red skinned, handsome devil, all male race is all male and only serve to impregnate an alien species and where their genetic make-up hijacks the genetic make-up of the alien mother's genetic make-up, then how did this all-male species ever manage to reproduce and survive to begin with on their planet before discovering other sapient, compatible species to mate with (or were discovered by them)? 

Maybe we can half-heartedly chalk it up to evolution, yet in that case might it not make more sense from an evolutionary perspective for the all-male species to either evole in to a two gender (or more) species, a hermaphroditic species (no sexual intercourse required with another individual in order to reproduce), or a species seemingly female in nature akin to the Asari?

Hm...maybe there was a sister race on their planet originally but some strange disease killed them all? And those that were immune to the disease gained the magical impregancy of other races gene? And maybe the disease was introduced by a now extinct species that no one knew about that has a connection to the Reapers. (Wouldn't be the first thing to come out of nowhere in this series).

What? I'm not a science major!

I added this while you were posting your above comments.

"P.S. Or.....perhaps this all-male species can also impregnate other
males....../../../../images/forum/emoticons/pouty.png"

But would the act of being impreganted not make them male any longer?  Wouldn't they just turn into some hermpadite species?

Also MShep being preggers would be hysterical but...too weird.

There's a way around this. If the incubus impregnates another male, it could really be a form of parasitism/symbiosis, in which the fetus lives inside the host's body during gestation, and is somehow birthed through an artificial orifice in the abdomen or something, perhaps the belly button opens, distends and the baby emerges from it. Then the placenta and pseudouterus would also be expelled.

sounds like it belongs in a horror movie.