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[Ryzaki]

Look at it this way. What if someone had a toggle to change Jacob's skin color? Or Anderson's? I think that's how some of the s/s romance supporters view the toggle option. Its somewhat offensive because it makes it seem like its something that can't be out in the open and suppressed so that those who get all offeneded with it don't have to acknowledge it.

Edit: I'm not against it but I see where they are coming from.

Modifié par Ryzaki, 02 mai 2010 - 05:43 .

[Ryzaki]

JohnnyDollar wrote...

That puts it into a little bit better perspective for me.
We are talking about changing Shep though. We decide Shep's skin color, gender, appearance, etc.  Why not orientation?

Aye but those things aren't censored in the game. This would be a censor of sorts if implemented. And you can choose his orientation during normal gameplay by romancing whoever falls into it,  you can't exactly change Shep's gender mid-game.

Modifié par Ryzaki, 02 mai 2010 - 05:48 .

[SorenTrigg]

Mostly because her orientation is already shown through her actions in the game.

[SorenTrigg]

JohnnyDollar wrote...

No you can't change the appearance mid game.  Is Shep going to all of the sudden change sexual orientations during the game?  Then create another Shep, is what I would think.

Isn't the game censored as it is?  There is no need to acknowledge another sexual orientation for Shep, since that Shep has only one orientation as it is.  Right?

It could happen. I mean, it happens in real life. People figuring out things, and so forth.
Maybe Shepard thought she was straight until Tali came along.

Plus, how come other orientations couldn't be brought up? In the first game, you can shoot Liara down by saying you are only interested in men.

[Wittand25]

Beeing able to choose gay/straight at the character creation would be like choosing paragon/renegade at creation. I believe that it would be better to implement s/s romances just like any of the other romances but be more careful to avoid ninja-romances.

[Ryzaki]

JohnnyDollar wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

JohnnyDollar wrote...
That puts it into a little bit better perspective for me.
We are talking about changing Shep though. We decide Shep's skin color, gender, appearance, etc.  Why not orientation?

Aye but those things aren't censored in the game. This would be a censor of sorts if implemented. And you can choose his orientation during normal gameplay by romancing whoever falls into it,  you can't exactly change Shep's gender mid-game.

No you can't change the appearance mid game.  Is Shep going to all of the sudden change sexual orientations during the game?  Then create another Shep, is what I would think.

So I should make a brand new Shep if I decide I happen to like a straight romance more than a gay one?  That sucks. And besides everyone doesn't think of their Shep's orientation for the get go. (Or some want to play a gay for you Shepard). Should they be restricted? Heck why not do the same with renegade and paragon and then be shoehorned into playing one way.

Restrictions in general aren't a good thing.

Isn't the game censored as it is?  There is no need to acknowledge another sexual orientation for Shep, since that Shep has only one orientation as it is.  Right?

*looks at the Statue of David in ME2* Censored indeed. <_<

Still /shrug. I don't have a problem with it but I see where they are coming from.

Modifié par Ryzaki, 02 mai 2010 - 06:24 .

[Ziggy]

It might look like they're accommodating homophobes though. Which they would be.

Annoying seeing as how they're already doing so by not having ss in the game but they can get away with it by claiming it was due to what ever silly reason.

[Ziggy]

JohnnyDollar wrote...

I would think that this idea would accommodate everyone, regardless of what it may look like.

but bioware cares about what it looks like and they call the shots

[Ziggy]

JohnnyDollar wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...
So I should make a brand new Shep if I decide I happen to like a straight romance more than a gay one?  That sucks. And besides everyone doesn't think of their Shep's orientation for the get go. (Or some want to play a gay for you Shepard). Should they be restricted? Heck why not do the same with renegade and paragon and then be shoehorned into playing one way.
Restrictions in general aren't a good thing.

If you can't decide your Shep's sexual orientation from the get go, then you may have other issues.  Take 30 seconds to think about it.
No restrictions at all, you are given the choice of your sexual orientation.:innocent:

and if you're not sure you can always go bi

[Ziggy]

JohnnyDollar wrote...

Em23 wrote...

JohnnyDollar wrote...
I would think that this idea would accommodate everyone, regardless of what it may look like.

but bioware cares about what it looks like and they call the shots

True, but what does ME2 look like to you?

I know the answer to that.

huh?

Modifié par Em23, 02 mai 2010 - 06:51 .

[Ziggy]

JohnnyDollar wrote...

Em23 wrote...

JohnnyDollar wrote...

Em23 wrote...

JohnnyDollar wrote...
I would think that this idea would accommodate everyone, regardless of what it may look like.

but bioware cares about what it looks like and they call the shots

True, but what does ME2 look like to you?
I know the answer to that.

huh?

I saw that thread you started.  You had a whole laudry list of things that Bioware did in ME2, that you considered as wrong.  They didn't seem to look very good to you.

Oh right! yeah, that thread had a short but eventful life. In heinsight the title was a mistake. I figured no one would read a thread called 'pls don't ignore female gamers' or whatever. It didn't occur to me it could be too successful for it's own good
Pity though, i think what i wrote was true.

[Ryzaki]

JohnnyDollar wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...
So I should make a brand new Shep if I decide I happen to like a straight romance more than a gay one?  That sucks. And besides everyone doesn't think of their Shep's orientation for the get go. (Or some want to play a gay for you Shepard). Should they be restricted? Heck why not do the same with renegade and paragon and then be shoehorned into playing one way.

Restrictions in general aren't a good thing.

If you can't decide your Shep's sexual orientation from the get go, then you may have other issues.  Take 30 seconds to think about it.

No restrictions at all, you are given the choice of your sexual orientation.:innocent:

Right because everyone roleplays the way you do. And there's no such thing as seeing a certain LI and deciding they'd be better for your Shep. No Way at all.  

Though yes the Bi option would solve most of those issues. So that's for modes: Heterosexual/Homosexual/Bisexual/None(Asexual).

True but it'd be a pain to replay the gay because I decided that my Shep would be more attracted to the female femme fatal than the flesh lizard male, or that my femshep would be more attracted to the shy and cute teammate who wasn't a romance option in the first than Mr. Bland and you are the "priiize".

Modifié par Ryzaki, 02 mai 2010 - 07:19 .

[Ryzaki]

JohnnyDollar wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

JohnnyDollar wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...
So I should make a brand new Shep if I decide I happen to like a straight romance more than a gay one?  That sucks. And besides everyone doesn't think of their Shep's orientation for the get go. (Or some want to play a gay for you Shepard). Should they be restricted? Heck why not do the same with renegade and paragon and then be shoehorned into playing one way.

Restrictions in general aren't a good thing.

If you can't decide your Shep's sexual orientation from the get go, then you may have other issues.  Take 30 seconds to think about it.

No restrictions at all, you are given the choice of your sexual orientation.:innocent:

Right because everyone roleplays the way you do. And there's no such thing as seeing a certain LI and deciding they'd be better for your Shep. No Way at all.

Pick the bi-sexual option then.  It solves your problem.

You missed my edit.

Though I just might roll a asexual Shepard if I have the option to toggle certain relationships. He'll even have his own theme song.

And no more getting hit on. That could only be a good thing. :innocent:

Modifié par Ryzaki, 02 mai 2010 - 07:21 .

[Hattie]

Em23 wrote...

Oh right! yeah, that thread had a short but eventful life. In heinsight the title was a mistake. I figured no one would read a thread called 'pls don't ignore female gamers' or whatever. It didn't occur to me it could be too successful for it's own good [smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/tongue.png[/smilie]

Pity though, i think what i wrote was true.

Me too. i think it got 15 pgs in a day then lockdown.

JohnnyDollar wrote...
I would see this whole plan as gaining more support from people that typically would be against s/s romance.  This is one of the upsides to it.
Speaking strickly from a personal perspective, I  also think that it would be kinda neat to do it. 
In reality, we have no idea what Bioware is going to do.  My guess is that the only s/s content will be f/f, and most likely Liara.  However, I have no idea.

I quite like the idea too but perhapse it is too overt a way of accommodating homophobes than just steering clear of the subject altogether as they have done now. Bioware would have to explain why they did it...

Modifié par Hattie, 02 mai 2010 - 07:24 .