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FataliTensei wrote...

I would much rather have a new character, but at the same time I'm kinda scared we might get another Zevran ../../../images/forum/emoticons/sick.png


Before Zevran, who I liked, there was Sky in Jade Empire. He was the male love interest for females and an option for males. Must more like Alistair than Zevran.

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cutthecameras wrote...

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y a gaFor M/M, I'd want Thane. I'd make a gay Shepard for him. The other male LI's hold no interest for me.

I've never even given it any thought...I wonder what would seem more appropriate.

I've always found it funny when folks think male Shepard can't be gay and a bad ass at the same time, anyone saying that really needs to get punched in the face by a gay guy some time.


Better yet, a drag queen.  I seriously would think about six times before tangling with many if not most  drag queens. 

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hmmm... looks like I'm still in the minority of preferring a new character to an existing one. I would only want an existing one if it was from day 1 and there's just no way they're going to patch ME1. Without that they would have to come up with some explanation as to why it wasn't there from the beginning and that leaves waaaaaay too much room for it to just be tacked on and feel like an afterthought.


I wouldn't mind a new character either.  I'd take anything :)

I don't mind them adding it to a pre-existing character though.  Again, they added romance to Tali and Garrus that was not even hinted at in ME1.  You can't even flirt with them in that game. 

To add a different perspective, Shepard can flirt with Samara in ME2 but it doesn't lead to anything.  Now, if they add a Samara romance in ME3, they would have set it up nicely in the previous game (like they didn't for Garrus/Tali).    Does the Garrus/Tali ME2 romance from out of the blue bother me?  No.  I'ts good to add more options, IMO.

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I see the point is lost on you. The penis and vagina go together, thus male and female go together. 


A design argument? Really? OK, I'll play.

Statistics clearly show that heterosexual intercourse isn't particularly good at bringing human females to orgasm -- other methods are much more effective, thanks to the location of the clitoris. These other methods don't give males any advantage. Therefore, it's obvious that human females are designed to be bisexual.

Furthermore, the placement of the prostate offers sexual pleasure to the receiving partner in male-on-male anal sex. I'd go into the implications of this, but I'm afraid of making your head explode.

Sure, you can say that these things aren't meaningful.  But you can't just pick and choose which natural things are meaningful. If there's a design, then all of it is meaningful, not just the parts that you happen to like, or the parts your storybook says are the important parts.

Sorry but stay on topic please. Further discussing of this isn't gonna convince anyone who doesn't want to be convinced.

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What?  Anderson is into women?   Then what's the explanation for Kaidan's picture on his desk?  That picture is always there regardless of Shepard's decisions.


Wait, he does? Really?

Yes, check out the Presidium.   Even if you chose Ashley over Kaidan on Vilmire, Anderson will ALWAYS have Kaidan's picture on his desk. 

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DaeJi wrote...

Before Zevran, who I liked, there was Sky in Jade Empire. He was the male love interest for females and an option for males. Must more like Alistair than Zevran.


Sky was awesome. He wasn't a goody two shoes but he wasn't anywhere near as full of unfourante implications as Zevran was. -_-* And Zev creeps me out now...not in a good way. Sky however is love. <3

Plus he could be your evil male lover when you took over the country. Doesn't get more epic than that. ;)

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Wasn't there a poll somewhere asking people who they'd want as a same-sex LI (that included a new character option)?

I was under the impression most people wanted Garrus/Thane/Tali/Jack as the main ones. I just fear that new characters will get Zaeed style conversation where there's no real interaction between the player and character.

EDIT: Hah, just noticed the poll I was talking about in Ryzaki's sig. Nice timing. B)

Modifié par PyroFreak301, 28 février 2010 - 04:45 .


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FataliTensei wrote...

Haha one of the toughest guys I know is gay, lol and if he punched you it would hurt


Ditto, gay guy I know is an ex-national champion power lifter.  He could snap most of the straight guys I know in two!

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I remember a poll asking people who they wanted for a same sex romance. Kaidan lead the poll for males, Tali for females.

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jlb524 wrote...

Jimmy Fury wrote...

hmmm... looks like I'm still in the minority of preferring a new character to an existing one. I would only want an existing one if it was from day 1 and there's just no way they're going to patch ME1. Without that they would have to come up with some explanation as to why it wasn't there from the beginning and that leaves waaaaaay too much room for it to just be tacked on and feel like an afterthought.


I wouldn't mind a new character either.  I'd take anything :)

I don't mind them adding it to a pre-existing character though.  Again, they added romance to Tali and Garrus that was not even hinted at in ME1.  You can't even flirt with them in that game. 

To add a different perspective, Shepard can flirt with Samara in ME2 but it doesn't lead to anything.  Now, if they add a Samara romance in ME3, they would have set it up nicely in the previous game (like they didn't for Garrus/Tali).    Does the Garrus/Tali ME2 romance from out of the blue bother me?  No.  I'ts good to add more options, IMO.


I would go straight for Samara no lie Posted Image

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PyroFreak301 wrote...

Wasn't there a poll somewhere asking people who they'd want as a same-sex LI (that included a new character option)?

I was under the impression most people wanted Garrus/Thane/Tali/Jack as the main ones. I just fear that new characters will get Zaeed style conversation where there's no real interaction between the player and character.


Yeah, that'd be a disaster for an add-on LI:  "I should let you go. Have sex more later, Shepard."

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DaeJi wrote...

FataliTensei wrote...

I would much rather have a new character, but at the same time I'm kinda scared we might get another Zevran ../../../images/forum/emoticons/sick.png


Before Zevran, who I liked, there was Sky in Jade Empire. He was the male love interest for females and an option for males. Must more like Alistair than Zevran.

My gay Warden was more attracted to Alistar than Zevran, but I was still grateful to BioWare for including him as a male LI.  It's better than nothing....

Modifié par Arik7, 28 février 2010 - 04:48 .


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FataliTensei wrote...
I would go straight for Samara no lie Posted Image


She's another tease, but at least it's justified and equally distributed.

Modifié par didymos1120, 28 février 2010 - 04:48 .


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DaeJi wrote...

I remember a poll asking people who they wanted for a same sex romance. Kaidan lead the poll for males, Tali for females.


I think it's in ryazaki's siggy lol

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didymos1120 wrote...

FataliTensei wrote...
I would go straight for Samara no lie Posted Image


She's another tease, but at least it's justified and equally distributied.


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To be fair, if, for example, Kaiden turned out to be bi by way of a add-on or expansion, he certainly wouldn't be the first guy to either discover or admit his true sexual orientation (to himself, as well as others) later in life.


Yeah I know but still, it would have to be extremely well written plus it would be more work for Bioware since it would require unique conversations between M.Shep and Kaidan.
And we would miss out on the very dramatic Virmire conversation and the awkwardness of the cameo in ME2. (which, incidentally, made me hate Kaidan a bit... but that's spoilerish and off topic)

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I would go straight for Samara no lie Posted Image

She's got a man-jaw anyway..... So you're half-way there :-P

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PyroFreak301 wrote...
I was under the impression most people wanted Garrus/Thane/Tali/Jack as the main ones. I just fear that new characters will get Zaeed style conversation where there's no real interaction between the player and character.


Only if it's a single DLC character. If it's brought in through an expansion there's a lot more room to have character development.

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I would go straight for Samara no lie Posted Image


Yeah, she's awesome.  Maybe she'll be a full LI in ME3 which would be awesome.   I think that would be a BW first with romances, to have one that spans 2 games.  Their other romances are begun and 'resolved' within one game.

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FataliTensei wrote...

cutthecameras wrote...

jlb524 wrote...

y a gaFor M/M, I'd want Thane. I'd make a gay Shepard for him. The other male LI's hold no interest for me.

I've never even given it any thought...I wonder what would seem more appropriate.

I've always found it funny when folks think male Shepard can't be gay and a bad ass at the same time, anyone saying that really needs to get punched in the face by a gay guy some time.


Haha one of the toughest guys I know is gay, lol and if he punched you it would hurt

To be fair, absolutely no one in the game comes off as gay, especially not Commander Shepard. I think that's what would make it even more strange and funny to picture him engaged in these acts. Because it would be a guy that is so obviously straight cuddling and holding onto another guy.

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danman2424 wrote...

To be fair, absolutely no one in the game comes off as gay, especially not Commander Shepard. I think that's what would make it even more strange and funny to picture him engaged in these acts. Because it would be a guy that is so obviously straight cuddling and holding onto another guy.


No one comes off as obviously straight in ME either.

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Arik7 wrote...

FataliTensei wrote...
I would go straight for Samara no lie Posted Image

She's got a man-jaw anyway..... So you're half-way there :-P


I must admit, I really didn't spend much time looking at her jaw.....

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danman2424 wrote...

FataliTensei wrote...

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jlb524 wrote...

y a gaFor M/M, I'd want Thane. I'd make a gay Shepard for him. The other male LI's hold no interest for me.

I've never even given it any thought...I wonder what would seem more appropriate.

I've always found it funny when folks think male Shepard can't be gay and a bad ass at the same time, anyone saying that really needs to get punched in the face by a gay guy some time.


Haha one of the toughest guys I know is gay, lol and if he punched you it would hurt

To be fair, absolutely no one in the game comes off as gay, especially not Commander Shepard. I think that's what would make it even more strange and funny to picture him engaged in these acts. Because it would be a guy that is so obviously straight cuddling and holding onto another guy.

You make it sound like challenging a false stereotype is a bad thing?

And no one comes off as gay? Did you even speak to Kaiden in ME1?

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danman2424 wrote...

FataliTensei wrote...

cutthecameras wrote...

jlb524 wrote...

y a gaFor M/M, I'd want Thane. I'd make a gay Shepard for him. The other male LI's hold no interest for me.

I've never even given it any thought...I wonder what would seem more appropriate.

I've always found it funny when folks think male Shepard can't be gay and a bad ass at the same time, anyone saying that really needs to get punched in the face by a gay guy some time.


Haha one of the toughest guys I know is gay, lol and if he punched you it would hurt

To be fair, absolutely no one in the game comes off as gay, especially not Commander Shepard. I think that's what would make it even more strange and funny to picture him engaged in these acts. Because it would be a guy that is so obviously straight cuddling and holding onto another guy.


Haha if you didn't know, you would think he was straight lol

not everyone acts like sterotype, I don't act like the sterotype either for that matter

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danman2424 wrote...

To be fair, absolutely no one in the game comes off as gay, especially not Commander Shepard. I think that's what would make it even more strange and funny to picture him engaged in these acts. Because it would be a guy that is so obviously straight cuddling and holding onto another guy.


Tali and Kaidan sure had their moments. One of the links on the first page go to a series of FemShep/Tali dialog that includes romance dialog, and the other links go to a full male Shepard/Kaidan romance hidden on the Mass Effect disk. Shepard isn't a queen or a butch, true, but being gay doesn't peg you into a certain personality type. He or she is a tough badass soldier, who may happen to be gay.