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[MPSai]

Ryzaki wrote...

MPSai wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

That would be too much win. Actual stripping

How would that work? It's not even clear how people get in and out of that ridiculous armor.

I meant the Asari dancers.

They kind of just dance and not...strip. Even though they're in a strip bar. If there's anything that made me laugh at the game it was those strippers. Now that was comical.

"ooh hot strippers...only...they don't strip." 

It would be weird though. For some reason I'm under the impression that Asari don't have nipp- .. you know I should stop thinking about this.

[FataliTensei]

Erode_The_Soul wrote...

danman2424 wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...


You realize that's as good an argument for putting it in though right? 

Not at all. Hitting a reporter is not even comparable to the light the character would be in if he were engaging in homosexual activity.

Personally, I think Maleshep punching a woman in the face paints him in a way worse light than he would be were he engaging in homosexual activity. *shrug*

Alot of the rengade options mke shepard seem like a douche...but that's for another thread.

Modifié par FataliTensei, 26 février 2010 - 03:45 .

[danman2424]

Ryzaki wrote...

Erode_The_Soul wrote...

danman2424 wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...


You realize that's as good an argument for putting it in though right? 

Not at all. Hitting a reporter is not even comparable to the light the character would be in if he were engaging in homosexual activity.

Personally, I think Maleshep punching a woman in the face paints him in a way worse light than he would be were he engaging in homosexual activity. *shrug*

Truth. If Fox was going to slam ME for anything you would think it would be for that. Yet that goes completely unnoticed.  

You also kill many women in the game. The point is, that action itself doesn't change the identity of the character into that of a comical one. 

[Ryzaki]

danman2424 wrote...


You also kill many women in the game. The point is, that action itself doesn't change the identity of the character into that of a comical one. 

Nope Shep's dancing does that all on its on.
Punching the reporter simply makes him look like scum that picks on the weak.

On topic:  How about the implemention of the romance? Do most people want it the same as the het one just with different gender pronouns and extremely similar dialogues, or a completely different romance, with different dialogues and the like.

Modifié par Ryzaki, 26 février 2010 - 03:51 .

[DaeJi]

danman2424 wrote...
You also kill many women in the game. The point is, that action itself doesn't change the identity of the character into that of a comical one. 

Nor would having a male Shepard be able to romance men. Again, the characters are what makes the romance. Thane is a sad, tragic romance while Garrus is light hearted fun one. Allowing a male Shepard to romance them wouldn't change that, and Shepard wouldn't be any more clownish for it. He'll still be out there punch reporters and shooting bad guys.

[Erode_The_Soul]

danman2424 wrote...
You also kill many women in the game. The point is, that action itself doesn't change the identity of the character into that of a comical one. 

But, quite honestly, neither does being homosexual. Unless they went the sterotype route with Manshep (which they haven't, as evidenced by current gamers whose Shepards are gay), then there's nothing really comical about it. He just happens to prefer the male form to the female on his leave.

[danman2424]

DaeJi wrote...

danman2424 wrote...
You also kill many women in the game. The point is, that action itself doesn't change the identity of the character into that of a comical one. 

Nor would having a male Shepard be able to romance men. Again, the characters are what makes the romance. Thane is a sad, tragic romance while Garrus is light hearted fun one. Allowing a male Shepard to romance them wouldn't change that, and Shepard wouldn't be any more clownish for it. He'll still be out there punch reporters and shooting bad guys.

Let me ask, why do you think gay relationships were left out?

[tyddrwsau]

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These threads invariably seem to attract posts that assert that BioWare or EA are homophobic institutions. Evidence indicates that they are not. EA has a corporate nondiscrimination policy that is inclusive of sexual orientation and gender identity, and has been praised by advocacy groups for its inclusive practices and same-sex partner benefits for employees. I've had a harder time finding BioWare's specific policies. We know that EA has published games with same-sex romantic content before (e.g. The Sims, Dragon Age:Origins), and BioWare has
made games with same-sex romance. (e.g. Jade Empire, Dragon Age:Origins) Mass Effect 1 & 2 include same-sex romance between women thanks to Liara and Kelly.

I commend BioWare and EA for these accomplishments.

I encourage them to build off of these while making more content and in the design of Mass Effect 2 expansion material and Mass Effect 3. I encourage BioWare not to make game design and marketing decisions to cater to homophobia presumed present in some customers. The same principles that make a tolerant and diverse workplace desirable apply to the desirability of tolerant and inclusive media. Being included matters.

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Modifié par tyddrwsau, 26 février 2010 - 03:57 .

[PyroFreak301]

danman2424 wrote...
You also kill many women in the game. The point is, that action itself doesn't change the identity of the character into that of a comical one. 

You claiming that homosexuality would make it comical doesn't make it so, it just damages your arguement when you fail to back it up with anything. I know we're meant to keep politics out of the thread, but societies in general are becoming more accepting of homosexuality, America being somewhat behind compared to most developed countries. Fortunately they seem to be catching up, so it's a shame to see a game like this exclude such content.

Modifié par PyroFreak301, 26 février 2010 - 03:57 .

[EphelDuath666]

if you can pick your sexuality prior to starting the game, where would the problem be? If you want to play a straight character, pick that. No dudes will hit on you. But why on earth would an 'option' that you decide on 'prior' to starting the game bother you? It's not like you 'have' to pick any certain sexual preference. And hey, even if Shepard is a set character, he could discover at some point that he's gay...in some people's playthroughs...if that is realistic in real life, might as well be realistic in a game. But like I said...if you decide that your Shepard is heterosexual then ME3 would be exactly what ME1 and ME2 were to you. So I don't really get the issue. Is an option in a video game really that much of a problem?

[DaeJi]

[quote]danman2424 wrote...

[/quote]Let me ask, why do you think gay relationships were left out?[/quote]

Because BioWare did not think that they were a necessary part of the game and cut them for time and space purposes. My opinion of course.

[ReDSH1FT]

Makes me sad that you people are constantly asking BioWare to waste time on trivial content such as this. Instead of making a homosexual character for DLC, how about some new N7 missions that EVERYONE can enjoy?



You people are selfish beyond all measure, do you not realize how self centered these threads and requests are?

[tyddrwsau]

FataliTensei wrote...
I would have a fangasm in Hendel Mitra got into ME3 as an LI, that guy is seriously bad-ass

Hendel would be awesome!

Plus, if he's on the scene, chances are he'll have several more Quarians for the Quarian-lovers to ooh-la-la over!

[Digital Supremacy]

Honestly, without reading every single post. OP post was a long enough read in the first place lol. I 100% support this thread. There is no way shape or form adding this could hurt the game, and those people that do not want this feature really should grow up out of their homophobia's. Its immature beyond compare. Its not like they are forcing romances down your throats or anything.



So perhaps someone could enlighten someone such as myself as to where exactly the problem with this idea of homosexual relationship is coming from? because as far as i can see, its only ******-phobic's that have the problem with it.

[FKA_Servo]

Posting for support!

Excellent job on the FAQ, folks!

[Rodamon]

leave your prejudices aside, enough "ayatolahs" and KKK's,

A person may love and have sex with any other person with the only condition that it is mutually accepted. Those who see "sin" everywhere and would want to see back in business the Inquisition are the true sinners and should go see a psychiatrist maybe.

A game is a world of fantasy, those who want to rule morally real life, negating human rights, should at least let individual fantasy and gaming aside.-

[FataliTensei]

tyddrwsau wrote...

FataliTensei wrote...
I would have a fangasm in Hendel Mitra got into ME3 as an LI, that guy is seriously bad-ass

Hendel would be awesome!

Plus, if he's on the scene, chances are he'll have several more Quarians for the Quarian-lovers to ooh-la-la over!

And don't forget Gillian, she's super powerful as well

[danman2424]

EphelDuath666 wrote...

if you can pick your sexuality prior to starting the game, where would the problem be? If you want to play a straight character, pick that. No dudes will hit on you. But why on earth would an 'option' that you decide on 'prior' to starting the game bother you? It's not like you 'have' to pick any certain sexual preference. And hey, even if Shepard is a set character, he could discover at some point that he's gay...in some people's playthroughs...if that is realistic in real life, might as well be realistic in a game. But like I said...if you decide that your Shepard is heterosexual then ME3 would be exactly what ME1 and ME2 were to you. So I don't really get the issue. Is an option in a video game really that much of a problem?

Because Bioware is not required to go through the development effort of creating an entire option for a minority of people. I don't know where this sense of entitlement comes from but it's not based on reality.

[Omega_Novae]

More options? Sounds good. I support this thread.

[FataliTensei]

ReDSH1FT wrote...

Makes me sad that you people are constantly asking BioWare to waste time on trivial content such as this. Instead of making a homosexual character for DLC, how about some new N7 missions that EVERYONE can enjoy?

You people are selfish beyond all measure, do you not realize how self centered these threads and requests are?

Please read the FAQ before posting

Also keep insulting or rude speech out of your posts, talk in a clean and respectful way, or you will be reported

Modifié par FataliTensei, 26 février 2010 - 04:06 .

[Ninja Mage]

ReDSH1FT wrote...

Makes me sad that you people are constantly asking BioWare to waste time on trivial content such as this. Instead of making a homosexual character for DLC, how about some new N7 missions that EVERYONE can enjoy?

You people are selfish beyond all measure, do you not realize how self centered these threads and requests are?

Please read the FAQ regarding ways this can be implemented into the game without offending anyone. There is a solution for this problem, and the answer will make everyone happy. Have a nice day

[MPSai]

danman2424 wrote...

]Because Bioware is not required to go through the development effort of creating an entire option for a minority of people. I don't know where this sense of entitlement comes from but it's not based on reality.

I think it's less a sense of entitlement and more bafflement at the fact one Shepard can be gay and the other can't.

Modifié par MPSai, 26 février 2010 - 04:06 .

[DaeJi]

danman2424 wrote... Because Bioware is not required to go through the development effort of creating an entire option for a minority of people. I don't know where this sense of entitlement comes from but it's not based on reality.

No one here feels entitled to anything; if we did we wouldn't be asking for the option. I don't see this thread or this request as any different from the people who wanted a Tali romance.

[Arik7]

danman2424 wrote...

DaeJi wrote...

danman2424 wrote...
You also kill many women in the game. The point is, that action itself doesn't change the identity of the character into that of a comical one. 

Nor would having a male Shepard be able to romance men. Again, the characters are what makes the romance. Thane is a sad, tragic romance while Garrus is light hearted fun one. Allowing a male Shepard to romance them wouldn't change that, and Shepard wouldn't be any more clownish for it. He'll still be out there punch reporters and shooting bad guys.

Let me ask, why do you think gay relationships were left out?

The ME2 disk contains the following recording for male Shepard: "You're the only one I want, Thane."
That leads me to believe that same-sex romances were seriously considered at some point, but cut due to other priorities, such as fish tanks, space hampsters, mining minigames, and stripper secretaries.  The purpose of these threads is to demonstate that same-sex romances are important to many of  the fans, and they should not be cut.

Modifié par Arik7, 26 février 2010 - 04:07 .

[FataliTensei]

DaeJi wrote...

danman2424 wrote... Because Bioware is not required to go through the development effort of creating an entire option for a minority of people. I don't know where this sense of entitlement comes from but it's not based on reality.

No one here feels entitled to anything; if we did we wouldn't be asking for the option. I don't see this thread or this request as any different from the people who wanted a Tali romance.

Or garrus romance, or people who ask for the return of certain characters, or people who ask for Kasumi, or people who want more DLC, or people who ask for romances with any character for that matter