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[didymos1120]

Ninja Mage wrote...

And the megan fox looks like Jack pics didn't clog the board?? lol

Given that I only posted one? No.  No clogging.

[FataliTensei]

Ninja Mage wrote...

And the megan fox looks like Jack pics didn't clog the board?? lol

Yeah ninja but you're pictures are sexually charged(lol) and i don't want them to be used to lock the thread

it is fine to post pictures of people who you think could be good VA's or people who could be used as an attractive face map

just don't post too many

[ARK of ILKS]

FataliTensei wrote...

Ninja Mage wrote...

And the megan fox looks like Jack pics didn't clog the board?? lol

Yeah ninja but you're pictures are sexually charged(lol) and i don't want them to be used to lock the thread

it is fine to post pictures of people who you think could be good VA's or people who could be used as an attractive face map

just don't post too many

His just in love with every male alien in the galaxy.

He should make one with Grunt. lol.

[Ninja Mage]

oh ok

[didymos1120]

Ninja Mage wrote...

oh ok

They are amusing though.

[King Gigglez]

Six-some with Legion, Garrus, Grunt, Mordin, Tali, and Nova (ME)!

[FataliTensei]

We should really get back on topic :3

[didymos1120]

Lightice_av wrote...
Bioware has already promised that no decision in Mass Effect is more canon than the others.

This was held to rather deftly in Ascension, which starts right after ME1. It manages to describe Shep's recent fame, the assault on the Citadel, and the alteration of the Council without actually providing any details and the descriptions still fit no matter what you personally chose in your ME1 game.

The asari method of parthenogenesis is quite unique to their species, and completely fictional to boot. Real all-female species do exist, but they don't use psychic powers in their reproduction. ../../../images/forum/emoticons/wink.png

True enough, but I think it's fairly likely the Asari were partly inspired by those aforementioned whiptail lizards.  They don't need to do it, but one lizard almost always assumes the "father" role when a particular lizard goes into egg-laying mode, and they simulate copulation. Doing so increases fecundity.  Plus, Asari have those scale-like features on the scalp.

There's another interesting parallel, though discovered too late to be a factor in inventing the Asari: they're all polyploid and use an unusual method of recombination, with the result that the daughters are never simple clones of their mother.

Another possible set of insprational candidates would be bdelloid rotifers. They ditched sexual reproduction ~80 million years ago, but still managed to speciate over and over and over in the meantime, which has been semi-jokingly called an "evolutionary scandal" (to the delight of creationists). They also have an unusual method of upping diversity: they've basically "stolen" genes from other species, be they bacterial, fungal, or plant. This too came to light well after ME1's release, but it's interesting that these rotifers actually do something not too unlike what Asari claim to be able to.

Probably the best candidate (besides just general osmosis from SF over the years) though is the "parthenogenetic" mouse Kaguya, born with human assistance back in 2004. That story got a fair bit of attention at the time, and not just in the science press.

Modifié par didymos1120, 01 mars 2010 - 02:40 .

[FataliTensei]

Man where is everyone tonight?

[Erode_The_Soul]

It's a Sunday; I'd guess either sleep or homework.

[didymos1120]

Yeah, what gives? It's Sunday evening (well, at least it is where I live).

[tyddrwsau]

MPSai wrote...

SimonTheFrog wrote...

MPSai wrote...

Eeewww.. you wanna romance Mordin? But he's OLD.

Hm... we call that "experienced"... not old

Also, how can you tell? Looks pretty much like they all do...

The character profile on the site says he's 50! That's ancient for a Salarian! 

Well, if that's not an error it's quite remarkable. He was probably in higher education at about the time that humanity discovered the Prothean ruins on Mars. (That's 36 years before Mass Effect 2 - I've always wondered at the compressed technological and manufacturing development in the canon storyline.) He's definitely trying to live out his last years and make a difference.

The Uncanny wrote...
I think this sounds like the best option. You take a conversation to a
certain point and the option 'Romance?' appears on the wheel. Choosing
that then takes you to a new set of options (a flirt wheel I believe
someone once described it as). My only worry is that this may feel a
little... artificial?

So you're suggesting a "header" style link, not unlike "Investigate" but for social relations... "Romantic" or "Friendly" with sub-options? That might indeed be a little artificial. Dialogue choices that make it clear we're going into flirty or friendly territory (the green highlight, clear wording) and then open up into some branching behaviour/tone choices could make it interesting. If they went that route, I'd hope that some characters would dump Shepard for "renegade" "flirts" - assuming those got written as the unsympathetic jerk options, anyway. Heck, with my mostly-renegade Shepard (tough and bullyish mannerisms, but idealist at heart) I see the romance as the place where Shepard can let go of the tough guy act and be real for a change.

I'm hoping for a strong but sensitive space hero who respects himself too much to be treated like crap by his man.  

[didymos1120]

tyddrwsau wrote...

MPSai wrote...
The character profile on the site says he's 50! That's ancient for a Salarian! 

Well, if that's not an error it's quite remarkable.

Well, as Mordin himself would say, there are outliers in every species. Or someone on the web staff was high on the job.

[FataliTensei]

Erode_The_Soul wrote...

It's a Sunday; I'd guess either sleep or homework.

I guess, seeing as how i just finished the second i can get that

Procrastonation kids

[Jimmy Fury]

tyddrwsau wrote...

MPSai wrote...
The character profile on the site says he's 50! That's ancient for a Salarian! 

Well, if that's not an error it's quite remarkable. He was probably in higher education at about the time that humanity discovered the Prothean ruins on Mars. (That's 36 years before Mass Effect 2 - I've always wondered at the compressed technological and manufacturing development in the canon storyline.) He's definitely trying to live out his last years and make a difference.

If you notice almost all of the squadies have been set up so that they can be excluded from the line-up in ME3. (trying not to be spoilerish... hopefully) Mordin's age, Samara's code, Thane's health, Jack's deal, Zaeed's contract, and Grunt's issues give them all an out. Makes sense all "things" considered (wink wink nudge nudge).
Also means that many of the niche's could, theoretically, be refilled by others. Easy way to bring ME1 squaddies back in and introduce new characters.

(unrelated note, sorry I was watching a movie. A guy can take a couple of hours for movie time! And that pic of Megan Fox and the rumor about an Alien Nation remake were an April Fools joke. Even being a fake she still looks good with her head shaved though. She could pull off the sinead o'rebellion thing.)

[FataliTensei]

Jimmy Fury wrote...

tyddrwsau wrote...

MPSai wrote...
The character profile on the site says he's 50! That's ancient for a Salarian! 

Well, if that's not an error it's quite remarkable. He was probably in higher education at about the time that humanity discovered the Prothean ruins on Mars. (That's 36 years before Mass Effect 2 - I've always wondered at the compressed technological and manufacturing development in the canon storyline.) He's definitely trying to live out his last years and make a difference.

If you notice almost all of the squadies have been set up so that they can be excluded from the line-up in ME3. (trying not to be spoilerish... hopefully) Mordin's age, Samara's code, Thane's health, Jack's deal, Zaeed's contract, and Grunt's issues give them all an out. Makes sense all "things" considered (wink wink nudge nudge).
Also means that many of the niche's could, theoretically, be refilled by others. Easy way to bring ME1 squaddies back in and introduce new characters.

(unrelated note, sorry I was watching a movie. A guy can take a couple of hours for movie time! And that pic of Megan Fox and the rumor about an Alien Nation remake were an April Fools joke. Even being a fake she still looks good with her head shaved though. She could pull off the sinead o'rebellion thing.)

Oddly enough Megan fox could make a good subject zero...looks wise anyway

sorry for the off topic post

[Drakerex]

Ninja Mage wrote...

Drakerex wrote...

Lightice_av wrote...

Would "your" game really be ruined by gay content that you wouldn't even have to see if you didn't want to? There was lesbian content in Mass Effect 1, after all.

Don't try logic, it's just a spammer. They go away when they're ignored, or get banned if they don't.

And as for the actual topic, I don't think that anyone immature enough to be banished by the very thought of gay content is part of the target audience, anyway. RPGs are generally marketed for mature, intelligent gamers. F/F content in the first game certainly didn't lower the interest in the slightest.

Well i have been playing rpgs for some time now... memories going back to icewind dale and Baldur's Gate... Dont know if it counts or if i am just stupid but able to play from Kotor to Witcher and Nwn but i have to admit 2 things: The majority of players on mass effect are men so F/F not lowering the interest on the game makes sence and secondly:srsly i like to think that after the experience i have with rpg games i can say to myself that i am a serious gamer.But i also like to think that when i see a game has anything to do with gay content i dont touch it.Thats why i havent played doa.The idea of shepard with garrus...... It makes me want to vomit.

You know what makes me want to vomit? People that are so close-minded they can't even fathom the possibility of having a gay option in a game. Just because it's there doesn't mean you have to play it. And the majority of players is still up for debate, no one has provided a pie chart or a graph to indicate what the majority demographic for mass effect is. And even if it is males age 18-35, why should minority gamers be completely ignored. A gay option would not affect your game at all. Grow up and let other people have fun with their games too

Sure but i dont see how having garrus shepard relationship is fun... And lets be honest.If shepard was to become a gay character, that has to be reflected to the game as well which means a whole new bunch of dialogs, some well..... lets just say not pleasant chat and mission ending options and a - to renegade..Or do you seriously think that a gay Shepard is as fast to punch a salarian worker in the face and do a funny comment about it?.. Back to business now.Mate srsly u do understand what minority means also u do understand that a gay shepard would be less liked to most Gamers(Yea i am narrow minded and all that crap but u have to admit that most SERIOUS gamers are with me).So how do u think they will like it:People agree that they consider mass effect 2 small compared to mass effect 1.So we will have to cut some more to add the gay Shep options...Sure u might like that but i wont.And to conclude mate come on if you are so much up for the gay stuff(which i am not against i just dont like it in my game i have some friends that are,nps with them as soon as they stay clear) go and practice it somewhere else privately.Why i must have a taste of ur sexual chooses when i come back from work and want to play my favorite game? No hard feeling ofc.

[Drakerex]

Feeling a bit overdue with the answer lawl.

[Fade9wayz]

Jimmy Fury wrote...

tyddrwsau wrote...

MPSai wrote...
The character profile on the site says he's 50! That's ancient for a Salarian! 

Well, if that's not an error it's quite remarkable. He was probably in higher education at about the time that humanity discovered the Prothean ruins on Mars. (That's 36 years before Mass Effect 2 - I've always wondered at the compressed technological and manufacturing development in the canon storyline.) He's definitely trying to live out his last years and make a difference.

If you notice almost all of the squadies have been set up so that they can be excluded from the line-up in ME3. (trying not to be spoilerish... hopefully) Mordin's age, Samara's code, Thane's health, Jack's deal, Zaeed's contract, and Grunt's issues give them all an out. Makes sense all "things" considered (wink wink nudge nudge).
Also means that many of the niche's could, theoretically, be refilled by others. Easy way to bring ME1 squaddies back in and introduce new characters.

(unrelated note, sorry I was watching a movie. A guy can take a couple of hours for movie time! And that pic of Megan Fox and the rumor about an Alien Nation remake were an April Fools joke. Even being a fake she still looks good with her head shaved though. She could pull off the sinead o'rebellion thing.)

Well, week-ends tend to be slow on any forum, even on Sundays. -groans-
I'm still trying to digest the duck confit of yesterday night. Damn it was
good, but I shouldn't have taken seconds...

Anyway, the only one we can be reasonably sure that will be in ME3 is Joker. By the end of the series, the crystal bones guy will have lasted longer as a teammate than many other squadies. I find this is a sweet irony  . Although if you want to have him as a ME3 LI, you better be really careful.

As for the Paragon/Renegade love-wheel, that is a good idea, although I have trouble imagining the renegade option working outside of a one-night stand kind of thing, or on a krogan...

[Drakerex]

Talking about garrus cause he is my favorite along with wrex from me 1

[newcomplex]

didymos1120 wrote...

Lightice_av wrote...
Bioware has already promised that no decision in Mass Effect is more canon than the others.

This was held to rather deftly in Ascension, which starts right after ME1. It manages to describe Shep's recent fame, the assault on the Citadel, and the alteration of the Council without actually providing any details and the descriptions still fit no matter what you personally chose in your ME1 game.

The asari method of parthenogenesis is quite unique to their species, and completely fictional to boot. Real all-female species do exist, but they don't use psychic powers in their reproduction. ../../../images/forum/emoticons/wink.png

True enough, but I think it's fairly likely the Asari were partly inspired by those aforementioned whiptail lizards.  They don't need to do it, but one lizard almost always assumes the "father" role when a particular lizard goes into egg-laying mode, and they simulate copulation. Doing so increases fecundity.  Plus, Asari have those scale-like features on the scalp.

There's another interesting parallel, though discovered too late to be a factor in inventing the Asari: they're all polyploid and use an unusual method of recombination, with the result that the daughters are never simple clones of their mother.

Another possible set of insprational candidates would be bdelloid rotifers. They ditched sexual reproduction ~80 million years ago, but still managed to speciate over and over and over in the meantime, which has been semi-jokingly called an "evolutionary scandal" (to the delight of creationists). They also have an unusual method of upping diversity: they've basically "stolen" genes from other species, be they bacterial, fungal, or plant. This too came to light well after ME1's release, but it's interesting that these rotifers actually do something not too unlike what Asari claim to be able to.

Probably the best candidate (besides just general osmosis from SF over the years) though is the "parthenogenetic" mouse Kaguya, born with human assistance back in 2004. That story got a fair bit of attention at the time, and not just in the science press.

You know, we could become an all Female race aided by SCIENCE

http://www.dailymail...stem-cells.html

Yay science.    (f/f artificial progeneration has no Y chromosomes, and hence, cannot produce a male)

Modifié par newcomplex, 01 mars 2010 - 07:57 .

[Drakerex]

Sheppard-Grunt that is best left ..... even unimagined.. Even though the chief said that a lot of female Krogans where interested to Grunt and 1 to Shepard...Seeing nightmares...

Modifié par Drakerex, 01 mars 2010 - 07:59 .

[Fade9wayz]

Drakerex wrote...

Ninja Mage wrote...

Drakerex wrote...

Lightice_av wrote...

Would "your" game really be ruined by gay content that you wouldn't even have to see if you didn't want to? There was lesbian content in Mass Effect 1, after all.

Don't try logic, it's just a spammer. They go away when they're ignored, or get banned if they don't.

And as for the actual topic, I don't think that anyone immature enough to be banished by the very thought of gay content is part of the target audience, anyway. RPGs are generally marketed for mature, intelligent gamers. F/F content in the first game certainly didn't lower the interest in the slightest.

Well i have been playing rpgs for some time now... memories going back to icewind dale and Baldur's Gate... Dont know if it counts or if i am just stupid but able to play from Kotor to Witcher and Nwn but i have to admit 2 things: The majority of players on mass effect are men so F/F not lowering the interest on the game makes sence and secondly:srsly i like to think that after the experience i have with rpg games i can say to myself that i am a serious gamer.But i also like to think that when i see a game has anything to do with gay content i dont touch it.Thats why i havent played doa.The idea of shepard with garrus...... It makes me want to vomit.

You know what makes me want to vomit? People that are so close-minded they can't even fathom the possibility of having a gay option in a game. Just because it's there doesn't mean you have to play it. And the majority of players is still up for debate, no one has provided a pie chart or a graph to indicate what the majority demographic for mass effect is. And even if it is males age 18-35, why should minority gamers be completely ignored. A gay option would not affect your game at all. Grow up and let other people have fun with their games too

Sure but i dont see how having garrus shepard relationship is fun... And lets be honest.If shepard was to become a gay character, that has to be reflected to the game as well which means a whole new bunch of dialogs, some well..... lets just say not pleasant chat and mission ending options and a - to renegade..Or do you seriously think that a gay Shepard is as fast to punch a salarian worker in the face and do a funny comment about it?.. Back to business now.Mate srsly u do understand what minority means also u do understand that a gay shepard would be less liked to most Gamers(Yea i am narrow minded and all that crap but u have to admit that most SERIOUS gamers are with me).So how do u think they will like it:People agree that they consider mass effect 2 small compared to mass effect 1.So we will have to cut some more to add the gay Shep options...Sure u might like that but i wont.And to conclude mate come on if you are so much up for the gay stuff(which i am not against i just dont like it in my game i have some friends that are,nps with them as soon as they stay clear) go and practice it somewhere else privately.Why i must have a taste of ur sexual chooses when i come back from work and want to play my favorite game? No hard feeling ofc.

As previously stated in this thread and the former ones, we are precisely here to discuss of ways to have that implemented without 'imposing' it on, as you described yourself, more narrow-minded players. Gay stereotypes are not an issue, being badass isn't exclusive to heteros. Voices recording are not an issue either, they were done and animated, both for ME1 and ME2, but just not enabled in the game, probably because of time-restriction issues. And real-life demographic are not an issue as well. Including gay content in a game does not hurt sales, the prime exemple being DAO. Besides, even minorities have a right to voice their opinions.

[Wittand25]

Drakerex wrote...
Sure but i dont see how having garrus shepard relationship is fun... And lets be honest.If shepard was to become a gay character, that has to be reflected to the game as well which means a whole new bunch of dialogs, some well..... lets just say not pleasant chat and mission ending options and a - to renegade..Or do you seriously think that a gay Shepard is as fast to punch a salarian worker in the face and do a funny comment about it?.. Back to business now.Mate srsly u do understand what minority means also u do understand that a gay shepard would be less liked to most Gamers(Yea i am narrow minded and all that crap but u have to admit that most SERIOUS gamers are with me).So how do u think they will like it:People agree that they consider mass effect 2 small compared to mass effect 1.So we will have to cut some more to add the gay Shep options...Sure u might like that but i wont.And to conclude mate come on if you are so much up for the gay stuff(which i am not against i just dont like it in my game i have some friends that are,nps with them as soon as they stay clear) go and practice it somewhere else privately.Why i must have a taste of ur sexual chooses when i come back from work and want to play my favorite game? No hard feeling ofc.

First :Why should a gay man behave differently than a straight one regarding the salarian workers ? Several of the world´s great heroes and a**holes were gay, it does not affect your potential to be a philantropic optimist or a physopatic misontrope.
Second: The m/m and f/f romance would be as optional as the f/m, in the first page of this thread there are several suggestion for a compromise that would even make sure that it is next to impossible to come acros it by accident.
Third: Noone asks for a complete official exclusivly gay Shepard ( like you seem to suggest ). We only want the option for him(her) to romance another (fe-)male, an option that would not affect the game (and the Shepard´s sexual orientation)of anyone who does not persue it.

Modifié par Wittand25, 01 mars 2010 - 10:00 .