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[tyddrwsau]

FataliTensei wrote...

tyddrwsau wrote...

FataliTensei wrote...
I would have a fangasm in Hendel Mitra got into ME3 as an LI, that guy is seriously bad-ass

Hendel would be awesome!

Plus, if he's on the scene, chances are he'll have several more Quarians for the Quarian-lovers to ooh-la-la over!

And don't forget Gillian, she's super powerful as well

I think that the poor girl should be given an exemption from the helmet toggle though! I imagine she'd rather keep hers on.

Hendel would have to keep his off most of the time, so that we could admire his fulsome beard properly!

[Darth Drago]

I back this idea up 100%.

-In fact I was rather shocked that there wasn’t a m/m romance in ME2 given all the possible romance options in the game. I mean why just go with the f/f relationship? Its not like there are no gay men in the universe is there? As a straight guy, I would have no problem with it if it was added. It wouldn’t change who Shepard is in my eyes in the least and I might even experiment with it as well.

-I’m not sure we would need to color code any romance dialog though, that would seem a bit out of place like if they color coded the paragon/renegade choices for you. Part of the game is talking to people and if you hit an option that starts a romance unintentionally then that is part of the fun of communicating with them. In ME1 if the other person was getting the wrong message, in other words that you were not seeking a relationship there was the “lets be friends” like response you can choose. Unfortunately that also kills any further dialog from them for the most part. In ME2 you don’t get that at all and you can just be trying to get to know the person and before you know it your in a relationship. There is also an automatic romance blocker if your already romancing someone on the ship preventing any possible “choose me“ moments. I kind of felt like the romances were also to easy to get started, after just a few talks and your already halfway in their pants in ME2.

-In the case of Jacob that whole dialog with him I really hated. A female Shepard cant just ask the guy about him with out getting overly flirty? That was in bad taste.

-I like the idea about the two downloadable companions you can recruit (one male the other female) for same sex relationships. This idea could be taken one step further and have them be bisexual. I personally would prefer them to be human or human like over an alien though. I believe someone mentioned Captain Jack Harkness above from Doctor Who and Torchwood he would be a perfect example for this.

-As for how to choose which one to have on your ship that’s easier said than done. Your recruitment mission has them both listed in one location giving the impression your recruiting both of them. Maybe even have them as brother and sister? They have different skills/powers as well so if your not interested in the romance option it would give you a bit of a replay value to choose the other one next time. As the mission goes you meet both of them so you will kind of get to know them to make what happens next a bit harder. At a critical point something happens at the end of the mission and you have a Virmire like choice, where you can only save one of them. In this way its set up similar to Samara and Morinth, where you have two people but only one can come with you.

-Sorry for the long post, i know some people cant stand reading something thats longer than a few lines. lol!

[Collider]

Rodamon wrote...
Those who see "sin" everywhere and would want to see back in business the Inquisition are the true sinners and should go see a psychiatrist maybe.

You'd be hard pressed to see any true indication of wanting to see the Inquisition back. As in, you're exaggerating.

[EphelDuath666]

danman2424 wrote...

EphelDuath666 wrote...

if you can pick your sexuality prior to starting the game, where would the problem be? If you want to play a straight character, pick that. No dudes will hit on you. But why on earth would an 'option' that you decide on 'prior' to starting the game bother you? It's not like you 'have' to pick any certain sexual preference. And hey, even if Shepard is a set character, he could discover at some point that he's gay...in some people's playthroughs...if that is realistic in real life, might as well be realistic in a game. But like I said...if you decide that your Shepard is heterosexual then ME3 would be exactly what ME1 and ME2 were to you. So I don't really get the issue. Is an option in a video game really that much of a problem?

Because Bioware is not required to go through the development effort of creating an entire option for a minority of people. I don't know where this sense of entitlement comes from but it's not based on reality.

of course not. It's their work of art, they should decide what they want it to look like. It does not mean that they won't ever change anything though. They changed a lot of stuff for ME2 which a lot of people didn't want to change but hey, they did it anyways. And no one is forcing them to do anything or threatening them with boycotting their games or whatever, it's just people discussing a certain subject that is important to them. Oh and regarding your comment about them not having to create an option for a minority. Let's face it...it would not be that much more work. If a modder can do it when Bioware can do it 100 times better. Like I said, I'm straight but still support this. You can choose the color of your skin, it should not be a problem to be able to choose your sexual preference.

[Octorox]

 I definitely wouldn't mind same-sex relationships and I think it would make the game more enjoyable for a lot of people. That being said, I think having seven bisexual crew members is a bit much (Liara, Samara, Morinth, Kaidan, Tali, Thane, Jack as the OP suggested). I'm not sure what the real world percentages would entail but I think having one gay and one lesbian specific romance option for each game (ME1 and ME2) would have been a better choice. Perhaps I'm just being a bit biased because I don't see Tali (my LI) as a bisexual character while Liara was clearly defined as one, I knew it going in. I wouldn't mind it if I pursued a romance option with a new character and they informed me that they swing the other way, but for established characters to be "made gay" or bi would have upset a lot of fans. I also wouldn't be happy with characters that are bisexual (can be romanced by either Male or Female Shepard) and don't tell you that, it's something I'd like to know about my love interest.

Overall I think this is a very valid request considering that the game allows you to customize your gender, appearance, and attitude but no your orientation.

Modifié par Octorox, 26 février 2010 - 04:20 .

[BrianWilly]

danman2424 wrote...

Because Bioware is not required to go through the development effort of creating an entire option for a minority of people. I don't know where this sense of entitlement comes from but it's not based on reality.

It's posted in the FAQ already, but I'll reiterate it here: if you're going to "go through the development effort" of creating such a wide variety of romance options and have them so intricitely integrated into the game, and then not have a single gay option amongst them, well, that's very conspicuous to the point of specifically exclusionary.  We're not suggesting that Uncharted or Halo or God of War should have gay romance options, after all; we just want to be included in a game that already includes every variety of romance options except for one specifically.

[Ninja Mage]

Shep Ain't No Fruit!!



/Chikita banana LOL

[Collider]

Absolutely fine with same sex romances so long as you leave the current ones alone, don't make DLC to change their sexualities.

[Ninja Mage]

That's what we're trying to avoid in here..lol

[Ninja Mage]

Collider wrote...

Absolutely fine with same sex romances so long as you leave the current ones alone, don't make DLC to change their sexualities.

Cool, I would be fine with a new gay or bisexual character too.

[BrianWilly]

Octorox wrote...

That being said, I think having seven bisexual crew members is a bit much (Liara, Samara, Morinth, Kaidan, Tali, Thane, Jack). I'm not sure what the real world percentages would entail but I think having one gay and one lesbian specific romance option for each game (ME1 and ME2) would have been a better choice.

I agree with this in theory, but would point out that three out of those seven people you mentioned come from a race that is by definition bisexual; attracted to both genders of humans.  Besides, Samara and Morinth can't be on your team at the same time, aren't true romance options that can be followed to the end, and Kaidan and Liara aren't even squadmates this time around. So, really, that pares down those seven people to just three for this game.

[Torpasia]

ReDSH1FT wrote...
You people are selfish beyond all measure, do you not realize how self centered these threads and requests are?

It's only selfish if we want to take away your straight romance options from away from you. Please understand that we wish only for content (most of which, if I'm not mistaken, already exists) to be added, none to be taken away.

[danman2424]

FataliTensei wrote...

DaeJi wrote...

danman2424 wrote... Because Bioware is not required to go through the development effort of creating an entire option for a minority of people. I don't know where this sense of entitlement comes from but it's not based on reality.

No one here feels entitled to anything; if we did we wouldn't be asking for the option. I don't see this thread or this request as any different from the people who wanted a Tali romance.

Or garrus romance, or people who ask for the return of certain characters, or people who ask for Kasumi, or people who want more DLC, or people who ask for romances with any character for that matter

Except DLC missions or Tali romances are things that will be enjoyed by a much larger set of people than homosexual romances and is a much smarter use of their time. They also aren't damaging to the character.

I'm sure they were looking to have three romance options anyway, and Tali seemed as good of a choice as any.

[Goat_Shepard]

Collider wrote...

Absolutely fine with same sex romances so long as you leave the current ones alone, don't make DLC to change their sexualities.

This. I'm fine with a brand new homosexual option, but no way are Tali, Garrus, or Thane suddenly bicurious. And do not bring up "conversion".

[FataliTensei]

danman2424 wrote...

FataliTensei wrote...

DaeJi wrote...

danman2424 wrote... Because Bioware is not required to go through the development effort of creating an entire option for a minority of people. I don't know where this sense of entitlement comes from but it's not based on reality.

No one here feels entitled to anything; if we did we wouldn't be asking for the option. I don't see this thread or this request as any different from the people who wanted a Tali romance.

Or garrus romance, or people who ask for the return of certain characters, or people who ask for Kasumi, or people who want more DLC, or people who ask for romances with any character for that matter

Except DLC missions or Tali romances are things that will be enjoyed by a much larger set of people than homosexual romances and is a much smarter use of their time. They also aren't damaging to the character.

I'm sure they were looking to have three romance options anyway, and Tali seemed as good of a choice as any.

So we should always pander to the majority and forget minorites?

We just want an option, that's all man

Modifié par FataliTensei, 26 février 2010 - 04:25 .

[BrianWilly]

Keep in mind that Thane and Tali were, evidently, designed to be bisexual options for this game but taken out at the last minute, just as Kaidan and Ashley were originally given bisexual dialogue as well but taken out at the last minute.  Does it actually change the character for original "director's cut" content to be placed back in?  Up for debate, I would say.

That's also part of what makes this frustrating for us, that the option was almost in but taken out for some unknown reason.

See youtube links in the FAQ for more information.

[FataliTensei]

Ok i know this is off topic, but is the site fritzing for anyone else right now, alot of the links have misplaced letters and some letters are replaced with numbers. is this happenig to anyone else?

[danman2424]

BrianWilly wrote...

danman2424 wrote...

Because Bioware is not required to go through the development effort of creating an entire option for a minority of people. I don't know where this sense of entitlement comes from but it's not based on reality.

It's posted in the FAQ already, but I'll reiterate it here: if you're going to "go through the development effort" of creating such a wide variety of romance options and have them so intricitely integrated into the game, and then not have a single gay option amongst them, well, that's very conspicuous to the point of specifically exclusionary.  We're not suggesting that Uncharted or Halo or God of War should have gay romance options, after all; we just want to be included in a game that already includes every variety of romance options except for one specifically.

Every variety of romance is most certainly not included in the game. You are limited to a few choices and all may not be to any given person's preference. Once again, your preference is not anymore special than another's, and you are not anymore entitled to being catered to.

[Ryzaki]

I wonder how many people used the Jacob romance. He seems not to be popular at all on these boards. And that's saying something. O_o

[BrianWilly]

danman2424 wrote...

Every variety of romance is most certainly not included in the game. You are limited to a few choices and all may not be to any given person's preference. Once again, your preference is not anymore special than another's, and you are not anymore entitled to being catered to.

What manner of romancic choice, along with gay male, would you say has also been excluded from the game?

[danman2424]

FataliTensei wrote...

danman2424 wrote...

FataliTensei wrote...

DaeJi wrote...

danman2424 wrote... Because Bioware is not required to go through the development effort of creating an entire option for a minority of people. I don't know where this sense of entitlement comes from but it's not based on reality.

No one here feels entitled to anything; if we did we wouldn't be asking for the option. I don't see this thread or this request as any different from the people who wanted a Tali romance.

Or garrus romance, or people who ask for the return of certain characters, or people who ask for Kasumi, or people who want more DLC, or people who ask for romances with any character for that matter

Except DLC missions or Tali romances are things that will be enjoyed by a much larger set of people than homosexual romances and is a much smarter use of their time. They also aren't damaging to the character.

I'm sure they were looking to have three romance options anyway, and Tali seemed as good of a choice as any.

So we should always pander to the majority and forget minorites?

Who are you? Are you Bioware?

Given the choice, yes, I think it makes much more sense for Bioware to cater to the majority rather pander to smaller groups like transsexuals, homosexuals, or any other smaller groups of people who feel they need to be represented in this video game.

[Ninja Mage]

I think it's because Jacob is black. If he were a soldier with blonde hair and a cocky attitude. all femsheps would be all ,"OH JACOB IS SO HOT!" etc

[Erode_The_Soul]

danman2424 wrote...
Every variety of romance is most certainly not included in the game. You are limited to a few choices and all may not be to any given person's preference. Once again, your preference is not anymore special than another's, and you are not anymore entitled to being catered to.

And no one is suggesting we are.

What we are doing is letting the developers know the option for homosexual romances would be appreciated by a segment of their audience.

[FataliTensei]

danman2424 wrote...

FataliTensei wrote...

danman2424 wrote...

FataliTensei wrote...

DaeJi wrote...

danman2424 wrote... Because Bioware is not required to go through the development effort of creating an entire option for a minority of people. I don't know where this sense of entitlement comes from but it's not based on reality.

No one here feels entitled to anything; if we did we wouldn't be asking for the option. I don't see this thread or this request as any different from the people who wanted a Tali romance.

Or garrus romance, or people who ask for the return of certain characters, or people who ask for Kasumi, or people who want more DLC, or people who ask for romances with any character for that matter

Except DLC missions or Tali romances are things that will be enjoyed by a much larger set of people than homosexual romances and is a much smarter use of their time. They also aren't damaging to the character.

I'm sure they were looking to have three romance options anyway, and Tali seemed as good of a choice as any.

So we should always pander to the majority and forget minorites?

Who are you? Are you Bioware?

Given the choice, yes, I think it makes much more sense for Bioware to cater to the majority rather pander to smaller groups like transsexuals, homosexuals, or any other smaller groups of people who feel they need to be represented in this video game.

I see......

[FlyinElk212]

Torpasia wrote...

ReDSH1FT wrote...
You people are selfish beyond all measure, do you not realize how self centered these threads and requests are?

It's only selfish if we want to take away your straight romance options from away from you. Please understand that we wish only for content (most of which, if I'm not mistaken, already exists) to be added, none to be taken away.

QFT and civility. Nicely done, Torpasia.

I am now officially on your team.