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[Spatchmo]

rynluna wrote...



^This.  I heard that in one of the youtube vids posted at the beginning of this thread.  It is without a doubt, Meer.  Some people like to say that a random person added those lines into the video but it's Meer.  I know that monotone voice anywhere..lol jp.  Meer isn't that bad.

Don't diss Meer, he is adorable.

[catabuca]

SorenTrigg wrote...

I still really dislike the idea of being able to choose orientation at the beginning or 'turn off' content.
Sure, you could argue that it is similar to choosing your sex, but still.

It should not have to be something you choose. It was not in Dragon Age, or any other Bioware games (that had same sex romance), at least.

Me too. You don't wake up in the morning and turn on/off the gay/bi/straight button - it's a part of life, and all you can control is how you deal with it when, and if, presented with it. Just as it should be in any video game.

I do NOT support an on/off switch in the customization menu, I do NOT support the inclusion of same-sex relationships through dlc, and if I'm honest, I don't really feel comfortable with the idea of the font for romance being in a different colour on the dialogue wheel.

I DO support the inclusion of same-sex romance options that are implemented in exactly the same way as hetero options. Anything else smacks of apologism: "I'm so sorry I'm gay/want a s/s option - I'll bend over backwards so you poor sensitive types don't have to see it". Makes my skin crawl. The people who are opposed so vehemently to s/s options are the ones with the problem, not everyone else.

[Jewsapalewsa]

I like the idea of selecting orientation at character creation. It could even be a thing you could change, like the difficulty. I think it is a good COMPROMISE between the two opinions. That way, gay people can be gay, and anyone uncomfortable with homosexuality isn't displeased by the game. No one is bending over backwards, and no one is getting it all their way. This is the most level headed, considerate arguement I have heard from either side. Some people are as disgusted by ****** stuff as others are by beastiality, or child porn. There is no need to get pissy at them, that is just how they are wired. It would be like me getting angry at you for being grossed out by donkey sex.

[Ryzaki]

Jewsapalewsa wrote...

I like the idea of selecting orientation at character creation. It could even be a thing you could change, like the difficulty. I think it is a good COMPROMISE between the two opinions. That way, gay people can be gay, and anyone uncomfortable with homosexuality isn't displeased by the game. No one is bending over backwards, and no one is getting it all their way. This is the most level headed, considerate arguement I have heard from either side. Some people are as disgusted by ****** stuff as others are by beastiality, or child porn. There is no need to get pissy at them, that is just how they are wired. It would be like me getting angry at you for being grossed out by donkey sex.

IF that orientation screen is going to be forced on me I want an option to turn off all hetero romances. Only fair after all.

And once again with the homosexuality is on the level of beastility and child porn.  Ugh.

Modifié par Ryzaki, 03 mars 2010 - 12:47 .

[catabuca]

Jewsapalewsa - Except sexuality isn't a compromise (nor should it be compared to bestiality or paedophilia). Their attitudes to sexuality is learned behaviour, and should not be applauded, accepted, nor even tolerated. It should be challenged at every possible opportunity (in a civilized manner, of course).

Either way, if Bioware are going to include s/s relationships they'll implement it in the same way they have in previous games. The only question here is whether they are going to implement it at all.

Modifié par catabuca, 03 mars 2010 - 12:54 .

[BrandNewMan]

I don't think we're in a position to NOT compromise. The only reason people are suggesting alternative ways of implementing same-sex romances is because it's unlikely we'll get them normally. In this instance, I don't think you can have your cake and eat it too.

[Ryzaki]

BrandNewMan wrote...

I don't think we're in a position to NOT compromise. The only reason people are suggesting alternative ways of implementing same-sex romances is because it's unlikely we'll get them normally. In this instance, I don't think you can have your cake and eat it too.

Yeah but the toggle screen would just be weird. I suppose it could be in the options menu but what would be the options "Default" which has both straight and gay options, "Heterosexual only" which has only straight options and "Homosexual only" which has only gay options? ...Jeez that would just be odd.

Though I will LOL the first time I see it.

And would it be changeable during gameplay or would you make a choice and that would be it?

Modifié par Ryzaki, 03 mars 2010 - 12:59 .

[Ryzaki]

Shavon wrote...

Uncomprimising? If they do give us a new gay option in ME3, they will handle it with taste as they have in the past. I hesitate to add conditions, other than expressing my wish its someone we've already met, such as Kaidan or Hendel.

I do at least want to ask if its going to be similar to the Sky romance to at least warn us so I know to dump all the females early on.

[Ninja Mage]

MOANZ

[jesuno]

Ryzaki wrote...

IF that orientation screen is going to be forced on me I want an option to turn off all hetero romances. Only fair after all.

And once again with the homosexuality is on the level of beastility and child porn.  Ugh.

What idiot equated homosexuality with pedophilia? Seriously, even the most avid ******-haters have to agree that these tow things are not even on the same level. Is that the arguement that was put forward?

[Ryzaki]

jesuno wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

IF that orientation screen is going to be forced on me I want an option to turn off all hetero romances. Only fair after all.

And once again with the homosexuality is on the level of beastility and child porn.  Ugh.

What idiot equated homosexuality with pedophilia? Seriously, even the most avid ******-haters have to agree that these tow things are not even on the same level. Is that the arguement that was put forward?

Supposedly people are disgusted as homosexuality as they are child porn.
I don't know who actually thinks that way. I see child porn and want to punch the adult in the face before beating the crap out of them. I see lesbian porn and I go "..." and turn it off. (Depending on the type of porn this could lead to me laughing hysterically afterwards).

And apparently since Beastility isn't a common practice its equated with being as abnormal as homosexuality. (Despite the fact that...you know most people aren't naturally attracted to a different species.) *sighs*

Anyways away from the politics. I need high res pictures people! I wanna make banners!

Modifié par Ryzaki, 03 mars 2010 - 01:24 .

[Ninja Mage]

Thats right gurl, you turn that lesbo porn off...it's bad for your skin...



MOANZ

[jesuno]

Ryzaki wrote...

jesuno wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

IF that orientation screen is going to be forced on me I want an option to turn off all hetero romances. Only fair after all.

And once again with the homosexuality is on the level of beastility and child porn.  Ugh.

What idiot equated homosexuality with pedophilia? Seriously, even the most avid ******-haters have to agree that these tow things are not even on the same level. Is that the arguement that was put forward?

Supposedly people are disgusted as homosexuality as they are child porn.
I don't know who actually thinks that way. I see child porn and want to punch the adult in the face before beating the crap out of them. I see lesbian porn and I go "..." and turn it off.

And apparently since Beastility isn't a common practice its equated with being as abnormal as homosexuality. (Despite the fact that...you know most people aren't naturally attracted to a different species.) *sighs*

Your being civil, they give me a reason to advocate for capitol punishment.

[Ninja Mage]

lol I'm just j0king Ryuuichi-san. I'm reading Deimos by patrick fillon and it is HOT...



anyway, back on topic..



I would like a DLC patch to add same-sex romance...

[Wittand25]

DLC is fine for ME2, in ME3 they should be in right from the start.

But putting more info on the diolag wheel if an option is supposed to be comforting,flirty, aggresive,... is generally a good idea because I find it annoying to quicksafe everytime before Shepard talks to an npc just to make sure that I dont use out of character answers and actions (like with the consort in ME1)

[Ninja Mage]

We beat em! RedShIft, Endurance, and James Moriarity! We did it ya'll. We beat those bigoted guys at thier own game!

[Ryzaki]

jesuno wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

jesuno wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

IF that orientation screen is going to be forced on me I want an option to turn off all hetero romances. Only fair after all.

And once again with the homosexuality is on the level of beastility and child porn.  Ugh.

What idiot equated homosexuality with pedophilia? Seriously, even the most avid ******-haters have to agree that these tow things are not even on the same level. Is that the arguement that was put forward?

Supposedly people are disgusted as homosexuality as they are child porn.
I don't know who actually thinks that way. I see child porn and want to punch the adult in the face before beating the crap out of them. I see lesbian porn and I go "..." and turn it off.

And apparently since Beastility isn't a common practice its equated with being as abnormal as homosexuality. (Despite the fact that...you know most people aren't naturally attracted to a different species.) *sighs*

Your being civil, they give me a reason to advocate for capitol punishment.

Never said I was going to stop beating them

Anyways humor time: 


Hope its not too big.

Modifié par Ryzaki, 03 mars 2010 - 01:45 .

[The Uncanny]

Ninja Mage wrote...

I would like a DLC patch to add same-sex romance...

Mm. Same here.

Some seem concerned that s/s through DLC would be condescending or even exploitative. But the sheer power of the pink dollar/pound has been a massive influence on social change in the last half century. Why should video games be any different?

My real concerns are firstly, the media portrayl (sadly I can see it now - "Bioware plans gay rape DLC" ) and secondly - and I don't think I've heard anyone actually giving a definitive answer on this one - is it even feasible?

[Jewsapalewsa]

You people with your hateful hating of anyone who has a different opinion, and accusing them of hate. It really just pushes my irony button for the day.



I will admit that child porn was going too far, didn't quite think it through. But I do stand by the beastiality comparison. I would much rather have sex with an animal than with another man. Same thing goes for watchin.

[Ninja Mage]

Jewsapalewsa wrote...

You people with your hateful hating of anyone who has a different opinion, and accusing them of hate. It really just pushes my irony button for the day.

I will admit that child porn was going too far, didn't quite think it through. But I do stand by the beastiality comparison. I would much rather have sex with an animal than with another man. Same thing goes for watchin.

You'd rather have sex with an animal than a young, fine, manly stud with curly locks and a smile to kill for?

for shame

[The Uncanny]

Yikes!

Okay, just a gentle reminder - no personal attacks and on topic about ME, please.

[Ninja Mage]

lol sorry got off topic

[Ryzaki]

Anyways: 



or



I like this one not as much rage as the other.

Modifié par Ryzaki, 03 mars 2010 - 02:11 .