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[exxxed]

FutureBoy81 wrote...

Why are we complaining it's FREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

It doesn't matter, the controls binding is tere for the hammerhead, in conclusion it's suppose to be in game already.

Free or not this is a joke. I would gladly be paying up to 10 bucks for the mako. 

[Volothos]

Incorporate a zombie mako that feeds off of your lifeforce or the lifeforce of things you kill?

[FutureBoy81]

exxxed wrote...

FutureBoy81 wrote...

Why are we complaining it's FREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

It doesn't matter, the controls binding is tere for the hammerhead, in conclusion it's suppose to be in game already.

Free or not this is a joke. I would gladly be paying up to 10 bucks for the mako. 

it was sarcasm bud i know its a cop out ..

[DarknessBear]

Oh my god... the Hammerhead missions look even worse than I was fearing. I hope they don't do the same thing in ME3 and just have the Hammerhead in the Mako missions.

[WrexEffex]

I'm excited for it. Anything that adds more to the already fantastic ME2 experience is sure to be awesome

[ShepardOsiris]

Well if they really are that short and terrible, then I think we know why they are free. I don't think even the most diehard of the diehard fans would pay anything for that and not scream up a storm about it.



That's what I feared, that they were going to be free, because they were short and sucked, because if they were of high quality, Bioware would charge for them, and if they were good, and more Mako like in nature, I would have gladly paid for them.



OK it's free and all, and it will add a little something extra to a great game and that's always good, but personally, I don't want a bunch of free crap just to say "yay we got more hollow DLC". I'd much rather have the quality that the game deserves, and be paying something for it.

[WrexEffex]

ShepardOsiris wrote...

Well if they really are that short and terrible, then I think we know why they are free. I don't think even the most diehard of the diehard fans would pay anything for that and not scream up a storm about it.

That's what I feared, that they were going to be free, because they were short and sucked, because if they were of high quality, Bioware would charge for them, and if they were good, and more Mako like in nature, I would have gladly paid for them.

OK it's free and all, and it will add a little something extra to a great game and that's always good, but personally, I don't want a bunch of free crap just to say "yay we got more hollow DLC". I'd much rather have the quality that the game deserves, and be paying something for it.

You do realize that if it cost money people would complain, right? It's a lose-lose situation for BioWare. They lose if they charge money because people will say "then what's the point of the Cerberus Networkif this cost money???", just look at the Kasumi Thread regarding it having a price. And they lose if they release it for free because people (you) say "Oh it's free? It must suck!!!" BioWare busted their arse to deliver a great game, and are trying to give us more dlc than they did for ME1. Even when they do that people complain about it.

 It's getting ludicrious.

[Ragnadaam]

So,after looking at 3 missions on Youtube(which I can only assume are the real deal),this thing is looking like a fail.Those 3missions are 3-4 mins long and boring at that.No exploration and lolspam rockets at foes or completely bypass enemies to activate blah blah and continue o___o.Can only hope the last 2 missions are better .Rather have the good ole Mako which I actually liked,even if hills got in the way sometimes.

Modifié par Ragnadaam, 17 mars 2010 - 07:43 .

[phordicus]

what's sad is so many people are using this DLC being free to help justify the cost of kasumi.

[Doctor_Jackstraw]

if they're short it's probably just to test out the mechanics, on an N7 level of detail. We'll probably get more elaborate, integrated into larger scale missions later on like the (good) mako missions of ME1. N7 missions are actually kinda cool if you just scan all of them out, and then just do them one after another all bad ass like. Throw some Firewalker missions in there and that sounds like a good post-game time to me.

Modifié par Doctor_Jackstraw, 17 mars 2010 - 11:01 .

[FutureBoy81]

WrexEffex wrote...

ShepardOsiris wrote...

Well if they really are that short and terrible, then I think we know why they are free. I don't think even the most diehard of the diehard fans would pay anything for that and not scream up a storm about it.

That's what I feared, that they were going to be free, because they were short and sucked, because if they were of high quality, Bioware would charge for them, and if they were good, and more Mako like in nature, I would have gladly paid for them.

OK it's free and all, and it will add a little something extra to a great game and that's always good, but personally, I don't want a bunch of free crap just to say "yay we got more hollow DLC". I'd much rather have the quality that the game deserves, and be paying something for it.

You do realize that if it cost money people would complain, right? It's a lose-lose situation for BioWare. They lose if they charge money because people will say "then what's the point of the Cerberus Networkif this cost money???", just look at the Kasumi Thread regarding it having a price. And they lose if they release it for free because people (you) say "Oh it's free? It must suck!!!" BioWare busted their arse to deliver a great game, and are trying to give us more dlc than they did for ME1. Even when they do that people complain about it.

 It's getting ludicrious.

So says the biggest Bioware Fanboy butt kisser on this site, people are voicing there opinions about the quality of content and all you do is praise bioware for every little thing they do, like other peoples opinion doesnt matter because bioware made the game, if all of us were like you there would be no improvements on the game, and so what they given us more stuff to download, downloadable content they promised for the first game never fleshed out the way they said it would so he has reasons to be skeptical, its quality not quantity that counts, wouldnt you rather have a more fleshed out downloadable experieince then just a new Gun that doesnt change the experience what so ever for another play through ...

[ShepardOsiris]

WrexEffex wrote...

ShepardOsiris wrote...

Well if they really are that short and terrible, then I think we know why they are free. I don't think even the most diehard of the diehard fans would pay anything for that and not scream up a storm about it.

That's what I feared, that they were going to be free, because they were short and sucked, because if they were of high quality, Bioware would charge for them, and if they were good, and more Mako like in nature, I would have gladly paid for them.

OK it's free and all, and it will add a little something extra to a great game and that's always good, but personally, I don't want a bunch of free crap just to say "yay we got more hollow DLC". I'd much rather have the quality that the game deserves, and be paying something for it.

You do realize that if it cost money people would complain, right? It's a lose-lose situation for BioWare. They lose if they charge money because people will say "then what's the point of the Cerberus Networkif this cost money???", just look at the Kasumi Thread regarding it having a price. And they lose if they release it for free because people (you) say "Oh it's free? It must suck!!!" BioWare busted their arse to deliver a great game, and are trying to give us more dlc than they did for ME1. Even when they do that people complain about it.

 It's getting ludicrious.

    I'm not saying the content sucks because it's free, I'm not even completely convinced it sucks yet, as I mentioned.  I'm concerned because we know pretty much what the Kasumi mission and content is, and frankly it isn't a lot, it's thin to say the least, and we know Bioware is charging for it, and about what they are charging for it.  

   This is a business, we all know that, and it's idiotic to think that if the Firewalker pack was as rich or richer in content as Kasumi, that Bioware wouldn't charge for it.  They would.  So since they aren't, you have to wonder how much content there is there. And now that all the videos have shown up on youtube, we can get an idea that that assumption was correct.  

   I'm a reasonable person, as I think are most of the people grumbling concerns over some of the DLC. Nobody ever said, this is how much content there has to be and when it has to be out by.  I think pretty much everyone was happy and satisfied with the launch content and free DLC they threw our way, except for the nut jobs that have to keep argueing the tired notion that that content should have been in the game from the start.  But those nutjobs aside, most were content.  

  As you say, they busted their rears on the main game, that's pretty clear, but that is far from clear with most of this DLC, and that's the issue and concern a lot of us have.  Much of it just seems to be getting thrown out there for the sake of getting thrown out there, regardless of how good it could or should be, or whether it should be free or cost something.  If no one voices any concern over it now, it's only going to become an issue later. 

   No one outside of Bioware or EA said Kasumi had to be out by April 6th and be a character you couldn't talk to and consist of 1 hour long mission and cost 5 or 7 bucks or whatever it ends up being.  They could have taken until June or whatever and made her and her content properly, fleshed out the story of her, give her a full on recruitment mission as well as her loyalty mission, given her full conversation dialogue throughout the game, and made it a full package and charged 10 bucks and people would be happy. 

  Still there would be people complaining she should have been there from the start, but those nutjobs could atteast see it was obvious a lot of work was further put in to make her worth a pay DLC and waiting for it.  I don't believe she was cut from the main game, but it's hard to make a good argument otherwise.  Because all the information we have makes it sound like an incomplete slapped together piece of content to make a buck. 

   People were up in arms about there not being a Mako or a replacement Mako, so for months, this Hammerhead pack has been talked about and tossed around as being a replacement for the Mako and how awesome it would be by the devs. A lot of people liked the Mako, myself included, and I don't think any of us said, Mako replacement has to be free.  We just wanted something in DLC form that lived up to the hype and more importantly our hopes, and to find out it's 5, 3 minute mini game missions that are totally linear and lack any depth is pretty depressing.  

  Free is great, but lackluster content is lackluster content, no matter what.  And when this Firewalker pack was kind of a major thing for a lot of people, how do you not get a little frustrated when you find out how lacking it is, free or not.  More effort clearly could have gone into it, if these videos are real and truthfull  

  I just wish Bioware would communicate with us, and learn how to plan out DLC better.  We've gotten no official answers or responses from anyone on any of these stickied DLC topics that have been up for weeks in some cases.  All you have are scraps of info, some true, some not, many undetermined, and a lot of people just getting angry because of that.  A little attention from a dev on all of these DLC issues would go a long way towards silencing many of the vocal fans.  

   And as for planning, sure some people expect too much from Cerberus Network and want everything free, but most people are reasonable.  If Bioware would just have a better plan and explain that plan, you wouldn't see nearly the backlash and complaining.  

  I'd be perfectly happy if Cerberus was just used as mainly a gear providing network, and if most of that was free.  The game could use an untold amount of good gear, pistols, SMGs, Sniper Rifles, ARs, Shotguns, Armor Pieces, Squad Outfits, even further research upgrades could be implemented, throw in the half hour long mission here or there for free, and keep a supply of content coming every so often, and I don't think too many people would complain about Cerberus Network.  

  Then just do a quality job on the big story driven content we all want or exploration content like the Hammerhead, and get it out when it's done right and charge a reasonable price, and again, I don't think too many people are going to scream about it. 

    

[cityhunter357]

It's just curiosu how poeple complained about the idea of space flgiths and piloting the Normandy, that would be too far from ME, then this poor and short version of f-zero is accepted awithout problems... tsk.



The sad part is that:

1-If people will hate hammerhead, that will result in NO VEHICLE in Mass Effect 3



2-Il people will like the hammerhead, it will result in a POOR VEHICLE in Mass Effect 3.



For Mass Effect 1 fans, it's a lose-lose situation

Why It's so difficult, I just want my Mako and free roam exploration back!!

[Rivercurse]

cityhunter357 wrote...

For Mass Effect 1 fans, it's a lose-lose situation
Why It's so difficult, I just want my Mako and free roam exploration back!!

I certainly havent read this whole thread, but I always thought the plan was to keep the Mako but make the sidequests more varied and plot-centric.

It would have been amazing.

Shame it never happened.

[lsumd2011]

This week or next basically.

[Drakron]

lsumd2011 wrote...

This week or next basically.

I doubt its this week, I would guess is the last week of March / first week of April.

[WrexEffex]

FutureBoy81 wrote...

WrexEffex wrote...

ShepardOsiris wrote...

Well if they really are that short and terrible, then I think we know why they are free. I don't think even the most diehard of the diehard fans would pay anything for that and not scream up a storm about it.

That's what I feared, that they were going to be free, because they were short and sucked, because if they were of high quality, Bioware would charge for them, and if they were good, and more Mako like in nature, I would have gladly paid for them.

OK it's free and all, and it will add a little something extra to a great game and that's always good, but personally, I don't want a bunch of free crap just to say "yay we got more hollow DLC". I'd much rather have the quality that the game deserves, and be paying something for it.

You do realize that if it cost money people would complain, right? It's a lose-lose situation for BioWare. They lose if they charge money because people will say "then what's the point of the Cerberus Networkif this cost money???", just look at the Kasumi Thread regarding it having a price. And they lose if they release it for free because people (you) say "Oh it's free? It must suck!!!" BioWare busted their arse to deliver a great game, and are trying to give us more dlc than they did for ME1. Even when they do that people complain about it.

 It's getting ludicrious.

So says the biggest Bioware Fanboy butt kisser on this site, people are voicing there opinions about the quality of content and all you do is praise bioware for every little thing they do, like other peoples opinion doesnt matter because bioware made the game, if all of us were like you there would be no improvements on the game, and so what they given us more stuff to download, downloadable content they promised for the first game never fleshed out the way they said it would so he has reasons to be skeptical, its quality not quantity that counts, wouldnt you rather have a more fleshed out downloadable experieince then just a new Gun that doesnt change the experience what so ever for another play through ...

Ohhhh, I think I hit a nerve.
 
At least I'm being optimistic about it instead of b*tching about every little thing they do. Never once did I take away someone's opinion, I'm just saying mine. Basically what you're saying is that these forums are for complainers and that absolutely no optimists are allowed to say what they want. I can't even describe how much that irks me. There's no reason to flip this much s#!t over a game dude, just relax. Learn how to make proper sentences instead of just rage-typing.

I swear I hate coming on this forums because once I say something trying to make it optimistic people freak out on me and call me "the biggest Bioware Fanboy butt kisser on this site". It really leaves me speechless for words.

Modifié par WrexEffex, 18 mars 2010 - 02:46 .

[R0cket Surge0n]

Was always wondering what the vehicle controls were for.

[FutureBoy81]

WrexEffex wrote...

FutureBoy81 wrote...

WrexEffex wrote...

ShepardOsiris wrote...

Well if they really are that short and terrible, then I think we know why they are free. I don't think even the most diehard of the diehard fans would pay anything for that and not scream up a storm about it.

That's what I feared, that they were going to be free, because they were short and sucked, because if they were of high quality, Bioware would charge for them, and if they were good, and more Mako like in nature, I would have gladly paid for them.

OK it's free and all, and it will add a little something extra to a great game and that's always good, but personally, I don't want a bunch of free crap just to say "yay we got more hollow DLC". I'd much rather have the quality that the game deserves, and be paying something for it.

You do realize that if it cost money people would complain, right? It's a lose-lose situation for BioWare. They lose if they charge money because people will say "then what's the point of the Cerberus Networkif this cost money???", just look at the Kasumi Thread regarding it having a price. And they lose if they release it for free because people (you) say "Oh it's free? It must suck!!!" BioWare busted their arse to deliver a great game, and are trying to give us more dlc than they did for ME1. Even when they do that people complain about it.

 It's getting ludicrious.

So says the biggest Bioware Fanboy butt kisser on this site, people are voicing there opinions about the quality of content and all you do is praise bioware for every little thing they do, like other peoples opinion doesnt matter because bioware made the game, if all of us were like you there would be no improvements on the game, and so what they given us more stuff to download, downloadable content they promised for the first game never fleshed out the way they said it would so he has reasons to be skeptical, its quality not quantity that counts, wouldnt you rather have a more fleshed out downloadable experieince then just a new Gun that doesnt change the experience what so ever for another play through ...

Ohhhh, I think I hit a nerve.
 
At least I'm being optimistic about it instead of b*tching about every little thing they do. Never once did I take away someone's opinion, I'm just saying mine. Basically what you're saying is that these forums are for complainers and that absolutely no optimists are allowed to say what they want. I can't even describe how much that irks me. There's no reason to flip this much s#!t over a game dude, just relax. Learn how to make proper sentences instead of just rage-typing.

I swear I hate coming on this forums because once I say something trying to make it optimistic people freak out on me and call me "the biggest Bioware Fanboy butt kisser on this site". It really leaves me speechless for words.

theres optimism and then theres cheerleading which is what you seem to be doing when giving your opinions, and if your going to try and dissect someone's grammar make sure you check yours first  , oh really lets hope your penchant for silence remains ...

[Drakron]

XxTaLoNxX wrote...

.. this content is FREE.

So is death and funny how people usually complain about that.

Being "free" does not automatic excuses it from being subject to review and criticism, also if it DID then people saying how great it is (and I really not seeing any, at least since those youtube videos come up) could not do it either because is FREE!

Oh and Pinnacle Station was pay and review sites ripped it a new one despite being "only" $5, Bring Down the Sky was only free for PC (also $5 for Xbox 360) and also was subjected reviewed and criticism.

DLC, be it free or not, can and should be subject to review .... besides its not "free" as I do not walk into a store and get it, I download it and my Internet sure as hell is not free.

[WrexEffex]

FutureBoy81 wrote...

WrexEffex wrote...

FutureBoy81 wrote...

WrexEffex wrote...

ShepardOsiris wrote...

Well if they really are that short and terrible, then I think we know why they are free. I don't think even the most diehard of the diehard fans would pay anything for that and not scream up a storm about it.

That's what I feared, that they were going to be free, because they were short and sucked, because if they were of high quality, Bioware would charge for them, and if they were good, and more Mako like in nature, I would have gladly paid for them.

OK it's free and all, and it will add a little something extra to a great game and that's always good, but personally, I don't want a bunch of free crap just to say "yay we got more hollow DLC". I'd much rather have the quality that the game deserves, and be paying something for it.

You do realize that if it cost money people would complain, right? It's a lose-lose situation for BioWare. They lose if they charge money because people will say "then what's the point of the Cerberus Networkif this cost money???", just look at the Kasumi Thread regarding it having a price. And they lose if they release it for free because people (you) say "Oh it's free? It must suck!!!" BioWare busted their arse to deliver a great game, and are trying to give us more dlc than they did for ME1. Even when they do that people complain about it.

 It's getting ludicrious.

So says the biggest Bioware Fanboy butt kisser on this site, people are voicing there opinions about the quality of content and all you do is praise bioware for every little thing they do, like other peoples opinion doesnt matter because bioware made the game, if all of us were like you there would be no improvements on the game, and so what they given us more stuff to download, downloadable content they promised for the first game never fleshed out the way they said it would so he has reasons to be skeptical, its quality not quantity that counts, wouldnt you rather have a more fleshed out downloadable experieince then just a new Gun that doesnt change the experience what so ever for another play through ...

Ohhhh, I think I hit a nerve.
 
At least I'm being optimistic about it instead of b*tching about every little thing they do. Never once did I take away someone's opinion, I'm just saying mine. Basically what you're saying is that these forums are for complainers and that absolutely no optimists are allowed to say what they want. I can't even describe how much that irks me. There's no reason to flip this much s#!t over a game dude, just relax. Learn how to make proper sentences instead of just rage-typing.

I swear I hate coming on this forums because once I say something trying to make it optimistic people freak out on me and call me "the biggest Bioware Fanboy butt kisser on this site". It really leaves me speechless for words.

theres optimism and then theres cheerleading which is what you seem to be doing when giving your opinions, and if your going to try and dissect someone's grammar make sure you check yours first  , oh really lets hope your penchant for silence remains ...

I'm not cheerleading, in order to be optimistic I have to say my opinion because I have an optimistic opinion. Otherwise I couldn't say anything because I wouldn't have an opinion. To you it may seem like I'm putting down other people's opinion but I'm not. The original post I responded to just said how BioWare is in a lose-lose situation and then you flipped sh*t.

And don't say I can't have my opinion, if you can have one so can I. This forum isn't only for b*tching.

It's actually pretty funny how much you freaked out, called me a "Bioware butt kisser". LOL wow, that's just sad. You're mad at me for trying to see the bright side of Bioware's lack of DLC. We're really on the same team here, but instead you like to b*tch about everything. 


 

Modifié par WrexEffex, 18 mars 2010 - 05:43 .

[Embrosil]

Well I am really disappointed after seeing the video. I was hoping to get some MAKO version. But this? You just shoot like an idiot beacuse there is no need to aim! Sorry, but this is not my definition of having fun. And there is not any big area requiring using of the Hammerhead. We just got bigger corridors. I was really hoping for some nice planet surface, with a nice scenery....
I am sorry, but ME2 is really dead game for me. Maybe I am getting old, maybe this is what gamers today want. I was hoping for more exciting missions which would fill the EMPTY universe. Missions that would last longer than average 10 minutes. Missions that would require more than to shoot everything that move. Instead I got crappy armors (uselless thanks to helmets), übeguns (yes, Incisor is a übergun) and now we get another useless character (why another character if all I can do with her is to run the same missions I have already finished twice?) and something I was hoping will replace MAKO. Well I does not replace it. It is not even close to it.
And please do not tell me not complain because it is for free. MAKO was also for free. And it was much much better and you did not have wait for it. 
I really hope they will learn that this is not the right way. As someone mentioned here, I would like to have a one big paid DLC than tens of crappy ones for free. Maybe ME3 will get it right.

[exxxed]

Embrosil wrote...

Well I am really disappointed after seeing the video. I was hoping to get some MAKO version. But this? You just shoot like an idiot beacuse there is no need to aim! Sorry, but this is not my definition of having fun. And there is not any big area requiring using of the Hammerhead. We just got bigger corridors. I was really hoping for some nice planet surface, with a nice scenery....
I am sorry, but ME2 is really dead game for me. Maybe I am getting old, maybe this is what gamers today want. I was hoping for more exciting missions which would fill the EMPTY universe. Missions that would last longer than average 10 minutes. Missions that would require more than to shoot everything that move. Instead I got crappy armors (uselless thanks to helmets), übeguns (yes, Incisor is a übergun) and now we get another useless character (why another character if all I can do with her is to run the same missions I have already finished twice?) and something I was hoping will replace MAKO. Well I does not replace it. It is not even close to it.
And please do not tell me not complain because it is for free. MAKO was also for free. And it was much much better and you did not have wait for it. 
I really hope they will learn that this is not the right way. As someone mentioned here, I would like to have a one big paid DLC than tens of crappy ones for free. Maybe ME3 will get it right.

+1

Valid points broa' and i pretty much feel the same way... could be age, could be evolu...ahem...involution of culture, hell knows.
 Cheers!