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[whodawhanow]

I want to follow Sten. A young Qunari finds an ambushed Sten dying on the road, hears his story of the Blight and takes it to where Sten was going (The arishok?). Along the way, he gets ambushed by what killed Sten and is able to escape, starting the story of why.



The Qunari seem the most interesting to me.

[Brockololly]

MoSa09 wrote...

And then, i'm a sucker for nice endings. I'd love to see some real endings than go beyond an epilogue, probably like LotR devoted many pages to explain what happened to each member of the fellowship and the rest of his live. I know not everyone shares this passion, but that is what's needed to finish an epic story, and for now, DAO is lacking such a finish

I guess for me, I would love to have a complete ending for each of the characters in DAO like they have in LotR, but for video games at least, I was impressed that they at least had the Coronation/Epilogue- too often in games you just beat the final boss/ villain and get a cutscene, roll credits.

Thats one of the reasons I love LotR- both the movies and the books devote a fair chunk of time after the climax to the denouement  of the story. I know at least in the movies that some people thought it just dragged on, but in a video game, especially one with a ton of plot threads and characters like DAO, I think its a disservice to the characters to just give them a quick " and they lived happily ever after....for a while..." or Morrigan's epilogue (if you did the Ritual & romanced her): "One cannot help but wonder however- What became of the child? What were Morrigan's plans? These questions must remain a mystery...for now."

Now so long as we get some resolution to the ambiguity of some of the endings, thats cool. And obviously if the devs want to come back to some of the characters in the future they wouldn't want to give them epilogues that spells out the rest of their life. I just hope that when they do close the chapter on the Warden, we get some proper resolution and not just  another ellipsis...

[MoSa09]

[quote]Brockololly wrote...

[quote]MoSa09 wrote...

And then, i'm a sucker for nice endings. I'd love to see some real endings than go beyond an epilogue, probably like LotR devoted many pages to explain what happened to each member of the fellowship and the rest of his live. I know not everyone shares this passion, but that is what's needed to finish an epic story, and for now, DAO is lacking such a finish

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I guess for me, I would love to have a complete ending for each of the characters in DAO like they have in LotR, but for video games at least, I was impressed that they at least had the Coronation/Epilogue- too often in games you just beat the final boss/ villain and get a cutscene, roll credits.

Thats one of the reasons I love LotR- both the movies and the books devote a fair chunk of time after the climax to the denouement  of the story. I know at least in the movies that some people thought it just dragged on, but in a video game, especially one with a ton of plot threads and characters like DAO, I think its a disservice to the characters to just give them a quick " and they lived happily ever after....for a while..." or Morrigan's epilogue (if you did the Ritual & romanced her): "One cannot help but wonder however- What became of the child? What were Morrigan's plans? These questions must remain a mystery...for now."

Now so long as we get some resolution to the ambiguity of some of the endings, thats cool. And obviously if the devs want to come back to some of the characters in the future they wouldn't want to give them epilogues that spells out the rest of their life. I just hope that when they do close the chapter on the Warden, we get some proper resolution and not just  another ellipsis...


What more can i add? Just quoting to show my support!!!

[MaxQuartiroli]

Brockololly wrote...

And obviously if the devs want to come back to some of the characters in the future they wouldn't want to give them epilogues that spells out the rest of their life.

Are you really really sure ?
I apologize but after ME2 i think that now I suffer from something that I may call "Liara's syndrome"
I am still dumbstrucked after I saw what they did to her, just to show her in the game...
As I consider DA:O romances much more importants than ME romances I fear a day we may see something like that....

Modifié par MaxQuartiroli, 26 février 2010 - 03:53 .

[loezix]

darkmax1974 wrote...
...
David Gaider and gang. It is afterall they would are the game-masters, we are but players in their creativity.

This is f***ing awesome dude

[Brockololly]

MaxQuartiroli wrote...

Brockololly wrote...

And obviously if the devs want to come back to some of the characters in the future they wouldn't want to give them epilogues that spells out the rest of their life.

Are you really really sure ?
I apologize but after ME2 i think that now I suffer from something that I may call "Liara's syndrome"
I am still dumbstrucked after I saw what they did to her, just to show her in the game...
As I consider DA:O romances much more importants than ME romances I fear a day we may see something like that....

Well as far as Liara goes, yeah they changed her character quite a bit , but I'm hopeful DLC and ME3 hopefully fixes up her abrupt character shift.

All I'm saying is that I would prefer it that when the story of our Warden comes to an end, whether thats in Awakening, DA2 or whenever, I hope that at that point we get a nice conclusion that tells of how our past companions went about their lives like LotR.

I guess the reason I want to continue on as the Warden is to see how our choices carry through into consequences, both good and bad, in the future and have our Warden have to deal with those consequences. I mean whats the point of the Dark Ritual if the Warden never has to deal with Morrigan again and he/she can just go about their merry way with no thought of how they helped maybe bring an Old God Baby into Thedas?  I think it would just feel cheap if some other playable character had to deal with that instead of the Warden.

[MaxQuartiroli]

Brockololly wrote...

All I'm saying is that I would prefer it that when the story of our Warden comes to an end, whether thats in Awakening, DA2 or whenever, I hope that at that point we get a nice conclusion that tells of how our past companions went about their lives like LotR.

I guess the reason I want to continue on as the Warden is to see how our choices carry through into consequences, both good and bad, in the future and have our Warden have to deal with those consequences. I mean whats the point of the Dark Ritual if the Warden never has to deal with Morrigan again and he/she can just go about their merry way with no thought of how they helped maybe bring an Old God Baby into Thedas?  I think it would just feel cheap if some other playable character had to deal with that instead of the Warden.

I get what you say.. It would be very beautiful. I am a great fan of continuity in games and I get very affected to my character... this is the reason why I am still a great fan of BG Saga...

But, as someone already said, ther will be too many difficulties to fit all choices, endings and moreover from the 1st chapter to a sequel... If you want to continue the game with your character the risk could be to have some "canon" choices, that doesn't fit with your real choices, and to have total and brutal choices for character's lifes... i.e... we cannot develop this character into a sequel? let him/her die immediately... I'm not really sure I will be happy to see that just to move on with my character.. My own opinion btw...

[Lorianno]

Well considering the track history of Bioware, and the fact that they have been schmoozing from the beginning that this game is the spiritual successor to Baldur's Gate. Well, Baldur's Gate, Baldur's Gate: Shadows of Amn, and Baldur's Gate: Throne of Bhaal, all followed the same character.



Why then would any of you be surprised that your warden is playable throughout the entire series? And if the Qunari invaded again, and they stood to demean the importance of the grey warden or to ignore blights as trivial should they be in power. The grey wardens would most CERTAINLY go to war to help Orlais or Ferelden against the giants for fear of their own place of importance and ability to stem further blights/darkspawn. They're 'politically neutral' except for the fact that they're not.



Take into consideration that the Wardens we've seen, (Duncan, Riordan) and even yourself depending on how you played him, were very opportunistic. If there was one slight advantage they or yourself could obtain, they leapt at it. If there was one risk to the effectiveness of the grey wardens or they're secrets, they nipped that quite handily in the bud. Considering their overall self-interest and greed, one could say they are 'politically neutral', but if the Qunari invasion would damage their forces either directly or indirectly, they'd take the sword to them. Very naive to think otherwise.

[Brockololly]

I guess one way to continue on as the Warden and sort of avoid dealing with the choices from DAO would be to move the Warden to a new area of Thedas- kind of like how in BG2 you were no longer even in Baldur's Gate. As far as characters go, the writers can always come up with reasons for certain characters either being with or not being with the Warden; whether or not those reasons go over well is another story (like Liara in ME2). But then you have the issue of companions possibly being dead in DAO and how to bring them back- not unlike ME2.



Outside of Morrigan, who can't be killed off in DAO, I guess we will see how the devs approach returning characters in Awakening to maybe see how they will approach that issue in future DA games.

[MaxQuartiroli]

You have to consider that BG Saga was much more easy to develop.... For example to continue a romance with 2d text dialogues is not the same thing as to continue romances and dialogue in 3d and animations... the costs in order to do this would be too high



Even if I am a huge fan of BG Saga I believe it belong to the past and it's quite difficult to compare a game which was developed 10 years ago with a modern game...

[Mimo32]

DaerogTheDhampir wrote...

My Fereldan Warden is good to retire and live well after Awakening. I'm all for giving Thedas a new hero in another part of the world.

Yep me too ! i want to finish the history of my Fereldan warden maybe with another origins add on after Awakening, but after that  i'm all for giving Thedas a new hero, new story  in another part of the world.

[Vicious]

Dragon Age is not the Warden's story in the way that Mass Effect is Shepard's story.



That said, I'm sure Bioware will wrap up the story well.

[Emerald Rift]

it would be great if you could meet your character in the sequel just for a cameo or something but that wouldnt work very well.

[Maria Caliban]

Divinity 2 let you meet the Divine One (hero of the first game) at the end. You even battle him. My PC was a female rogue and this was a male warrior but I thought it was fine, and heard very little complaining.

I imagine BioFans would have a *****fit.

Modifié par Maria Caliban, 26 février 2010 - 05:56 .

[R-F]

my human noble is going to go back to his family's land with Leliana, and live out his remaining life there after awakening. im all for new hero and new part of the land for DA2

[Ubertax]

I would not mind if Bioware took a different direction with the second Dragon Age and we did not play as our Grey Wardens. This original IP of theirs seems to be pretty huge in scope and there just is so much more to see and experience.



I enjoyed getting introduced to the world by battling the Blight and playing a Grey Warden and if they want to switch the focus to some other location and character I'm fine with that. But I'm also fine continuing to play as my Gray Warden if that is the direction they choose.

[MaxQuartiroli]

R-F wrote...

my human noble is going to go back to his family's land with Leliana, and live out his remaining life there after awakening. im all for new hero and new part of the land for DA2

I agree
Really guys... I believe I was the only one who wanted this.. I'm glad to see there are other people who preferes to reward the hero leaving him/her to live the life and begin a new adventure with a "more motivated" character..

[Feraele]

Maria Caliban wrote...

darkmax1974 wrote...

Is Maria Caliban one of the staff?

Hello, my name is Maria Caliban!

I’ve hung out on the Dragon Age boards since its announcement at E3 2005, and am one of two admins for the http://dragonage.wik...Dragon_Age_Wiki ' class='bbc_url' title='Lien externe' rel='nofollow external'>Dragon Age wiki (lucy_glitter is the head admin).

I am not an employee of BioWare. On occasion, I will PM one of the devs, and they’ll be kind enough to answer my questions. For example, David confirmed that the ‘hawt lich guy’ I started a thread about was the Architect, not the hurlocks in chainmail as I’d previously thought.

That said, my speculation is just that: speculation.

From David Gaider…
"I think the plot of any future Dragon Age story revolving around YAB (Yet Another Blight) would probably be something we'd avoid."

Okay, from this, I *guess* that DA 2 will not be about a Blight. It would still need to be a big, important story though. I’m *guessing* that DA 2 won’t have the Warden because the main purpose of the Wardens is to fight darkspawn and the Blight.

If you have a story of something other than the Blight, a Warden PC isn’t very useful, especially as the Wardens maintain a political neutrality. If the Qunari invaded Orlais, the Wardens would sit on the sidelines. It’s not a Blight, so it’s none of their business.

darkmax1974 wrote...

I certainly hope she is and also hope against hope, the sequel is already in the final phase, so we don't have to wait 6 months to a yer to find out.

They have a two year DLC plan for Origins. The earliest we should see DA 2 is Winter 2011.

errant_knight wrote...

It really depends on if more expansions are planned for DA:Origins, or if they just move on to DA2.

They've planned more than one xpac.

I kind of guessed things would be changing..and to be honest one can't be a Warden forever, time does go on..other events happen.   And as I have already stated once in these many, many threads..it would be nice to be a hero/heroine of another life changing event...or just even finally get to see all those mysterious places mentioned in the Origins story, and meet the people.

But for now..we have Awakening coming up, and certain expectations, questions are still hanging in limbo..waiting for an answer that doesn't seem to want to come.

[MClover]

Awakening seems to be just building up story for DA2 so why wouldn't the warden be in it. MA2 has the option of importing and beginning anew so I can't expect Bioware would leave that feature out. Bioware's "thing" is great story and they enhance that through the importing option. I would like however, this is my hopes/speculations, if Bioware make this a trilogy, then the final chapter ends with the Warden dying, no exceptions. Either he completes his final mission and then you see him/her begin their Calling or their Calling is somehow connected to overcoming the evil which has arised.

[WilliamShatner]

MoSa09 wrote...

I'm a little bit ambivalent on this issue. By now, the DA story is left pretty much open in many ways and desperately needs closure. If they provide proper and real closure to all the open endings and we can achieve a real ending for the Warden and put him to a well deserved retirement, i'm fine and won't object playing a new character.
But for now, i won't enjoy playing a new character and i probably won't buy it. Gaider said recently DA is about interesting and epic stories in Thedas and not about the loves and characters of DAO.
But i hope that doesn't mean DA is all about open ended and unfinished stories all about Thedas either.
If they provide real closure to the many open ends, i'm more than fine if they move on. If they just move on without real closure, i'm not really interested to invest in a new character and his/her story when my old one is not yet finished and probably never will.

That's like saying Star Wars is about the galaxy and not about Luke, Han, Leia etc... and we all know how the series turned out without them!

[7th_Phoenix]

I think the story of our current Warden would continue through expansion packs, then sequels would consist of new characters and a new story. It's sad now that I do think about it but I'm looking forward for the new expansion pack so I can finally continue my Warden's story.



So I'm not entirely disappointed because there will be expansion packs for this current story and I'm content with the game and its universe overall.

[Maria Caliban]

WilliamShatner wrote...

MoSa09 wrote...

...But for now, i won't enjoy playing a new character and i probably won't buy it. Gaider said recently DA is about interesting and epic stories in Thedas and not about the loves and characters of DAO....

That's like saying Star Wars is about the galaxy and not about Luke, Han, Leia etc... and we all know how the series turned out without them!

*Looks at her Knights of the Old Republic disk*

Wonderfully?

[dheer]

I certainly hope not. One of the things that make a great series is the continuation of the main character. Baldur's Gate and Mass Effect, just as an example.

[WilliamShatner]

Maria Caliban wrote...

WilliamShatner wrote...

MoSa09 wrote...

...But for now, i won't enjoy playing a new character and i probably won't buy it. Gaider said recently DA is about interesting and epic stories in Thedas and not about the loves and characters of DAO....

That's like saying Star Wars is about the galaxy and not about Luke, Han, Leia etc... and we all know how the series turned out without them!

*Looks at her Knights of the Old Republic disk*

Wonderfully?

And what happened with that series when they got rid of Revan, Bastilla, Juhani etc..

[Maria Caliban]

As long as Obsidian doesn't make Dragon Age 2, I think we're good.