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#51
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Sensible.

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Mordin is the only squad member with incinerate and cryo-blast. No other tech squaddies have either of those skills! I prefer Incinerate for armor and insanity difficulty! Sabotage would be a great loyalty skill.

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T-Kay wrote...

AI hacking was lame in ME1 as well.



I've found AI hacking quite useful on several missions, especially those involving more than one heavy mech at a time. But even on the ones that just involve several light mechs: facing 3 or more mechs, strip the defenses of one, hack it, it turns on the others and -- more importantly -- is no longer firing at you. Turned legion's loyalty mission into a day at the beach.

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scyphozoa wrote...

Mordin is the only squad member with incinerate and cryo-blast. No other tech squaddies have either of those skills! I prefer Incinerate for armor and insanity difficulty! Sabotage would be a great loyalty skill.


Isn't Sabotage pretty much just R3+ Overload?


I could see them doing Smoke Grenade, but I hope they don't.

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The description on the video of her in the suicide mission says she's a stealth-type fighter, so I'm guessing cloak, sniper rifles, not sure what unique skill she might have.

Modifié par sedrikhcain, 03 mars 2010 - 11:10 .


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Keltoris wrote...

scyphozoa wrote...

Mordin is the only squad member with incinerate and cryo-blast. No other tech squaddies have either of those skills! I prefer Incinerate for armor and insanity difficulty! Sabotage would be a great loyalty skill.


Isn't Sabotage pretty much just R3+ Overload?


I could see them doing Smoke Grenade, but I hope they don't.



hmm, it was my understanding that overload just does damage to shields, while sabotage jams their weapons. that is mostly what i want to see, the ability to lock down guns, either heavy or wide AOE.

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Disruptor Ammo, Cryo Blast and one new loyality skill.

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cronshaw8 wrote...

AI hacking is great. One rank is an insta-synthetic/mech kill. Missions where it is useful. Thane's recuritment, Tali's recuritment, Tali's loyalty, Legion's loyalty. Miranda's loyalty, Jacob's loyalty, Grunt's recruitment, Crate side mission, Geth weather side mission, eh i'm sure there are some it missed.

What, hacking those small fry mechs? Not worth it. Even if you use it on a YMIR mech, there probably won't be any other enemy in the vicinity. Garrus' loyalty has 2 YMIR mechs at the same time but even then, that's 1 encounter out of scores. Only Geth are worth hacking, IMO.

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yup, hacking small mechs isn't worth the payout because they die fast and don't generate enough dps. hacking large mechs is useless because you have to drop their shields and armor and by that point you might as well just get a headshot nuke.



giving kasumi incinerate or cryoblast makes her way more functional for playing over veteran difficulty.

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Bring back Damping.

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I am siding with Bioware and hope they do

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bump for additional discussion

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AI Hacking is a great ability when it can be used. The problem is that it is absolutely useless in the Suicide Mission, which seems bad from a design standpoint, since the Suicide Mission is the whole reason for the game--you would expect all the people you're recruiting to be useful. It can be argued that other squad members have "useless" abilities in the Suicide Mission, but that's not true at all: every other ability can be used in the Suicide Mission. It sucks that AI Hacking has no secondary effect to make it useful in other situations, like Overload does, and it hurts you to bring members like Tali and Legion with you on the Suicide Mission, since they have one less ability to use--it hurts their effectiveness, especially since you can't reallocate their squad points. I agree with the OP--no more AI Hacking, or fix AI Hacking.

For those interested, I created a thread about a week ago regarding this very issue, and constructively offered my opinions on why it is the only ability in the game that has this issue, and made some suggestions as to how the developers can make it better. Check it out and see what you think.

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We only have till April 6th, This is more important now than ever! Show your support!

Please Dont Give Kasumi AI Hacking!

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Signed!

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this is a very big deal people!

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Ramikadyc wrote...

AI Hacking is a great ability when it can be used. The problem is that it is absolutely useless in the Suicide Mission, which seems bad from a design standpoint, since the Suicide Mission is the whole reason for the game--you would expect all the people you're recruiting to be useful.


Tali for ducts, legion for sniper rifle, both are useful.

Oh, and signed.

Modifié par cruc1al, 11 mars 2010 - 11:38 .


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Signed & supported

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Ramikadyc wrote...

AI Hacking is a great ability when it can be used. The problem is that it is absolutely useless in the Suicide Mission, which seems bad from a design standpoint, since the Suicide Mission is the whole reason for the game--you would expect all the people you're recruiting to be useful. It can be argued that other squad members have "useless" abilities in the Suicide Mission, but that's not true at all: every other ability can be used in the Suicide Mission. It sucks that AI Hacking has no secondary effect to make it useful in other situations, like Overload does, and it hurts you to bring members like Tali and Legion with you on the Suicide Mission, since they have one less ability to use--it hurts their effectiveness, especially since you can't reallocate their squad points. I agree with the OP--no more AI Hacking, or fix AI Hacking.

For those interested, I created a thread about a week ago regarding this very issue, and constructively offered my opinions on why it is the only ability in the game that has this issue, and made some suggestions as to how the developers can make it better. Check it out and see what you think.



I disagree. Combat drone is the only skill they need and is excellent for distracting Harbingers and Collector drones.

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Can we also add flash-bang grenades to the list of things Kasumi shouldn't have?

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scyphozoa wrote...

This is a plea to BW, AI Hacking is so very rarely a viable skill in ME2. We face too few hackable enemies and many more organics. On top of that, two of the most loved characters, Tali and Legion both already have AI hacking. I would request that Kasumi be given another tech skill instead. My preferences would be Incinerate or Cryo Blast.

My assumption that Kasumi has AI Hacking is based on a screenshot. I know BW probably won't comment on rumors and unannounced content, but I beg, please don't give Kasumi AI Hacking. Its not that she will be "useless" per se, but she will be more of a novelty squad member than one that I find viable enough to bring on an entire playthrough. Please, Incincerate or Cryo Blast! No AI Hacking!


Um, the DLC is hitting on April 6th. I'm pretty sure all of Kasumi's abilities are programmed in already.

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Bryy_Miller wrote...

Um, the DLC is hitting on April 6th. I'm pretty sure all of Kasumi's abilities are programmed in already.


I think this is something they could easily exchange with any other tech power. I don't think that it would require any significant coding or effort. I, of course am only a fan, so I speak with no authority on the matter. But it does seem like a very simple matter, and the greater effort is convincing the devs to give Kasumi any other tech power in place of AI hacking.

Please devs, give Kasumi any tech powers other than AI Hacking! We already have Tali and Legion, which are basically opposites of each other, both have combat droids and AI hacking, we don't need a THIRD squadmate with AI hacking! Mordin is the only squadmate to have Incinerate and cryo-blast! Please balance out these powers amongst squaddies!

Modifié par scyphozoa, 12 mars 2010 - 12:41 .


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I like AI hacking... unfortunately I DID find it near useless,



SIGNED!



also you don't often see a thread get necro'd that actually DESERVES it! lol

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Signed.

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Do you guys think Kasumi will have AI hacking? We know she will have a cloak move and a flash grenade move, this only leaves room for 1 passive and 1 more skill. I'm hoping that last skill is overload.



Please Don't give Kasumi AI Hacking!