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CybAnt1

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One of the surprising things in the game are the usable ballistas.

There are a couple times where you come across a ballista in your travels that you can use to your advantage. In one case, you can even use one to cause a distraction.

Return to Ostagar was the first time, btw, I encountered a relatively intelligent enemy opposition using emplaced ballistas against ME as I approached.

About the most disappointing thing I found is you can't aim them! They always seem to fire a projectile at exactly the same point. If nothing's standing there when you fire, they do nothing. Can't move them up or down, left or right, to fire at a different position. 

I also never did figure out how much damage they did. My guess was a lot. They so rarely hit anything I couldn't really tell.

It'd be cool if these were aimable. There could be encounter situations where being able to man onc and use it against oncoming enemies could be to your advantage. Of ccourse, there might also be situations like RtO where they'd be used against you.

More siege weapons for Awakenings! Personally I'm looking forward to aimable catapults too. :devil:


 

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krylo

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RE: Damage

They do about 100-120 damage to the archdemon.

Take from that what you will.

Modifié par krylo, 26 février 2010 - 06:04 .


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AlgolagniaVolcae

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They don't do much damage to regular enemies, mostly it'll just knock them down (and out of position to catch another bolt to the chest). They have very little use, even during the archdemon fight that I have found. The archdemon typically dies too quickly to use them.

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krylo

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During the second phase of the Archdemon fight they are pretty invaluable, unless you're going to whip out storm of the century, maybe.

Modifié par krylo, 26 février 2010 - 05:48 .


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whodawhanow

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The ballista in the Dwarf Noble origin doesn't seem to hurt the enemies, but it will knock them down.

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Martin of Candlekeep

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krylo wrote...

RE: Damage

They do about 100-120 damage to the archdemon.

Take from that what you will.


I was wondering about that. My PC was a rogue with Deft Hands, able to use the ballista. He fired it, and the projectile went in the direction of the archdemon, but to the eye it seemed to fall short, and I couldn't see that any damage was actually being done to the AD - there were no damage "floaties" indicating such. How could you tell damage was being done, out of curiosity?

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Vuokseniska

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well in the pc version you see floaties when you fire the ballista at the archdemon

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Yup he said it!

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Donatelllo

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Hehehe! I was firing from the ballista with my tanks set on defensive mode when Sten got in the way of one and it smacked him off his feet a few times...which stopped me hitting the AD...lol! Major pain in the butt! One of the many funny stuff ups in the game. Damm AI.

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Yeah it kept on hitting alistair for me.

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krylo

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Martin of Candlekeep wrote...

krylo wrote...

RE: Damage

They do about 100-120 damage to the archdemon.

Take from that what you will.


I was wondering about that. My PC was a rogue with Deft Hands, able to use the ballista. He fired it, and the projectile went in the direction of the archdemon, but to the eye it seemed to fall short, and I couldn't see that any damage was actually being done to the AD - there were no damage "floaties" indicating such. How could you tell damage was being done, out of curiosity?


What part of the fight and which Ballista?

During phase 2 when the AD flies into the center area that is unreachable by foot there's a few ballista set where they can hit it pretty easily--though you can miss sometimes depending on what animation the AD is going through at the time of firing.


Also: DN Origin Ballista does 5-6 damage per bolt to Gorim.

He regens faster than it can hurt him outside of battle.

I was kinda sad about that, considering he's kind of a bastard.  I mean, really, the time it took me to go to Ostagar and then go from there to Denerim couldn't have possibly been that long and he's already married some Surface Dwarf forgetting all about his "heart"?  Even after telling me to go find him.

**** needs to get shot by a better ballista.

Modifié par krylo, 04 mars 2010 - 10:57 .


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Ken555

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Yeah.

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Martin of Candlekeep

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Krylo - thanks for the quick reply. Yes, the second phase of the battle, when the AD flies to the unreachable area. There's a ballista more or less opposite that spot, and my rogue aims it and fires... but it's hard to tell whether the projectile actually makes it that far... and there's no "floatie" indicating any damage was done. ... I'm drawing a blank on the Gorim part you mentioned, though. Who's that, then?

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Donatelllo

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Is there any way of setting tactics for your characters to make them go to the ballistas and keep em firing?

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draxynnus

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Martin of Candlekeep wrote...

Krylo - thanks for the quick reply. Yes, the second phase of the battle, when the AD flies to the unreachable area. There's a ballista more or less opposite that spot, and my rogue aims it and fires... but it's hard to tell whether the projectile actually makes it that far... and there's no "floatie" indicating any damage was done. ... I'm drawing a blank on the Gorim part you mentioned, though. Who's that, then?

Gorim's the Dwarf Noble's second. I gather that if the DN is female, it's possible to have (had a) fling with him.

He also shows up after the origin story, having found himself a wife.

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krylo

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Martin of Candlekeep wrote...

Krylo - thanks for the quick reply. Yes, the second phase of the battle, when the AD flies to the unreachable area. There's a ballista more or less opposite that spot, and my rogue aims it and fires... but it's hard to tell whether the projectile actually makes it that far... and there's no "floatie" indicating any damage was done. ... I'm drawing a blank on the Gorim part you mentioned, though. Who's that, then?


I've always seen a floatie... maybe you're using one of the further away ballistas?  There's at least two that are right on the edge of the unreachable area he goes to.

As for Gorim, what Drax said.  Someone else mentioned the DN ballista seeming to not do any damage, I was merely correcting them in that it does completely insignificant damage.

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Martin of Candlekeep

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Thanks, Drax, for the clarification on Gorim! guess that's a storyline I didn't follow.... Regarding the ballista, maybe the problem is that - as you suggest, Krylo - I was using one that was too far away. Had a clear line of sight to the AD, but it was quite far away. Ah, well. Next time!

Modifié par Martin of Candlekeep, 04 mars 2010 - 01:12 .


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I just used ranged weapons for the phase in which the archdemon flys away.

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CybAnt1

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So I guess the answer on ballistas is ...



no you can't aim them any time you find them

they always seem to knock over people

whether they do significant or insignificant damage depends on the game phase

they do appear to do significant damage to the AD, if they hit



Better siege weapons for Awakenings or I'M NOT GETTING THIS GAME!