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[BiancoAngelo7]

Thank you thank you THANK YOU for the awesome game and the awesomer dlc. Glad it didnt have the same issues that BDTS did.

Im sure the Hammerhead pack is gonna kik batarian azz, but please PLEASE give us planets we can drop on even if they're not as detailed or fleshed out as the 5 you are giving us now.

In ME1 so many epic moments came from exiting the mako (or not) on a cliff and overlooking the landscape of some barren planet with a blue giant and blizzard conditions in the background. (Or other moments like that)

In short, Im not complaining about something you are giving for free and has not been released yet. On the contrary, I am saying that it is probably going to BLOW MY MIND.

What I am BEGGING ON MY KNEES for are planets that I can explore and immerse myself in just for the hell of it. I don't need involving scripts or complicated missions that Im sure must take a lot of time and resources to do like with this hammerhead pack. I ask this because it would be an easy way for you to give us an immense amount of play time and stuff to check out while spending minimal game development resources.

Heck, throw a few random geth protecting a server hub or some other random fight like in ME1 and I WILL BE IN HEAVEN.

For all the complaining about roaming around looking for asari discs or league of one icons or minerals or whatever, I think many might agree that exploring a world that gives you that feeling that no one (or almost) has been there before permeates the entire Mass Effect game with a unique and amazing feeling that I have never found in ANY other game.

Again, Im not complaining about the hammerhead pack, its gonna rock. Just please give us maybe a few (20 or so? ) cookie cutter worlds to explore. I just miss that feeling in ME1 that around every corner was a planet waiting to be discovered and explored by me and my boom stick.

I apologize for the long post.
 
So please please pretty please give us more planets we can drop onto with the hammerhead and go  "oooooh" and "aaaaah"....and maybe pew pew?

[LostHH]

inb4 the circlejerking planet scanning's so fun crowd

Modifié par LostHH, 26 février 2010 - 09:49 .

[BiancoAngelo7]

LostHH wrote...

inb4 the circlejerking planet scanning's so fun crowd

what?  (im confused)

[LostHH]

I would like more planets too and I'm sure they probably have that lined up as future dlc. Would be the easier thing to do, add a planet or two with some extra missions.

Modifié par LostHH, 26 février 2010 - 09:53 .

[BiancoAngelo7]

LostHH wrote...

I would like more planets too

oh ok  sry i didnt get it

[Dethateer]

BiancoAngelo7 wrote...

LostHH wrote...

inb4 the circlejerking planet scanning's so fun crowd

what?  (im confused)

It was a stab at people (like me) who started to get tired of the Mako after the 5th playthrough.

[LostHH]

Dethateer wrote...

BiancoAngelo7 wrote...

LostHH wrote...

inb4 the circlejerking planet scanning's so fun crowd

what?  (im confused)

It was a stab at people (like me) who started to get tired of the Mako after the 5th playthrough.

Hey I got tired of it too after my 5th playthrough. Whereas it was halfway through my first on ME2 I got sick of scanning

[BiancoAngelo7]

Dethateer wrote...

BiancoAngelo7 wrote...

LostHH wrote...

inb4 the circlejerking planet scanning's so fun crowd

what?  (im confused)

It was a stab at people (like me) who started to get tired of the Mako after the 5th playthrough.

haha oh ok. I can understand that viewpoint though. Im sure its possible to eventually get sick of the hammerhead as well. But even though we got sick of the mako after a while, don't you admit that we had some pretty frikin Epic with a captial "E" moments? 

Edit: Also, what LostHH just said, thats my point as well. haha

Modifié par BiancoAngelo7, 26 février 2010 - 09:57 .

[Dethateer]

Well, yes, especially the last mission. But still, doing the UNC collection quests for each NG+ was annoying if you were a completionist. At least now, you can ignore scanning on NG+ runs (just edit your coalesced to include a key for resources) without screwing up an assignment.

[N7 Vanguard]

Yeah farting around in the mako is way more fun than scanning. Not feeling that to much, it waste to much time. I hope they do away with it in ME3 or redo the scanning to make it quicker. Even if you could just move it quicker it would better.



Oh yeah more planets and all that too..

[LostHH]

Dethateer wrote...

Well, yes, especially the last mission. But still, doing the UNC collection quests for each NG+ was annoying if you were a completionist. At least now, you can ignore scanning on NG+ runs (just edit your coalesced to include a key for resources) without screwing up an assignment.

I have it on 360 ;_;

[BiancoAngelo7]

Dethateer wrote...

Well, yes, especially the last mission. But still, doing the UNC collection quests for each NG+ was annoying if you were a completionist. At least now, you can ignore scanning on NG+ runs (just edit your coalesced to include a key for resources) without screwing up an assignment.

Yeah I have to agree with you there, I also play as a completionist and it got tediouos on my 6 or 7th playthrough. but still, that is an amazing statement! being able to play 6 or 7 times and never get tired of the planet exploration?
 
And that was when they had crazy cliffs ( which I personally liked) and low standards as far as what you could do on a planet. Here like the other poster before me, after I did my first playthrough and scanned planets the whole time, it was ok. Then I did NG plus and found out ALL my upgrades went out the airlock and I subsequently RAN to my ini file and just gave myself a million resources of everything. I was like SCREW THAT!

So yeah. I agree with you. But its still saying a lot  if you can say you got tired of it after your bajillionth playthrough. lol

[BiancoAngelo7]

LostHH wrote...

Dethateer wrote...

Well, yes, especially the last mission. But still, doing the UNC collection quests for each NG+ was annoying if you were a completionist. At least now, you can ignore scanning on NG+ runs (just edit your coalesced to include a key for resources) without screwing up an assignment.

I have it on 360 ;_;

*lights a candle* I will pray for you friend.

[BiancoAngelo7]

Please everyone fire up your copy of ME1 and land on an uncharted world.



*waits patiently*



SEE WHAT I MEAN?



lol

[CHT87]

I hate the mako...

I hate planet scanning...

I love space exploration...

COME ON BW! ^^


I really hope they found the right balance for the new hammerhead missions.
I want to see more of the ME universe but not in a Mako and a planet with friggin´ mountains of pain.

[BiancoAngelo7]

CHT87



well I didnt HATE the mako, (i kinda loved it...)



but I can understand your opinion, I know many disliked several things about it.

So yeah I generally agree with you, I just hope that in their quest to get it right they didnt say to themselves



"Hey lets get rid of all those other planets"



that would make me a sad panda.



Side note: How frigin epic would it be if the insertion scene for the hammerhead was from orbit and we get to burn in and orbit drop? And how epic would it be if it were actually an ingame cutscene that we "kinda" controlled? Maybe like just the camera angle or sumthin.



THAT would be so frikin amazing, I dont think I would have enough clean underwear for that much epic win.

[LostHH]

XxTaLoNxX wrote...
if ME2 Planet Scanning was a game... would you play it?

Hahaha no. I'd rather gouge my own eyes out. Or maybe break my fingers

[GnusmasTHX]

There some really flawed comparisons and analogies that float around every time this topic comes up.

Planet scanning is only ONE aspect of what used to be Mako-exploration, that is, resource gathering. Of course scanning isn't as enjoyable, if you compare it to shooting things up, actually DOING QUESTS, rather than just finding them.

Is planet scanning more enjoyable than driving pointless destinations  wasting time finding resources that count for nothing? And sometimes having to drive longer because resources aren't marked on your map? NO. It isn't LESS enjoyable, either. It's just FASTER.

In terms of STRICTLY resource gathering, I think everyone here would agree Planet Scanning is the preferred method.

(Unless you're one of those fools who waste hours draining and being thorough with EVERY planet, rather than skimming through only RICH planets... Because, you know, there are dozens if not hundreds of RICH planets.)

Modifié par GnusmasTHX, 26 février 2010 - 11:34 .

[GreenSoda]

Hmm I'm not even sure that...



a) you can exit the Hammerhead at all

you will get a sandbox like terrain to explore -I'm thinking more or less linear lines from a point A to a destination B.

[LostHH]

GnusmasTHX wrote...

Planet scanning is only ONE aspect of what used to be Mako-exploration, that is, resource gathering. Of course scanning isn't as enjoyable, if you compare it to shooting things up, actually DOING QUESTS, rather than just finding them.

No it wasn't. Resources in ME1 was just for a collection sidequest if you could be bothered. They didn't add to anything and meant nothing (aside from maybe an ME1 character import).
Whereas in ME2 you have to scan planets for the upgrades.

[GnusmasTHX]

LostHH wrote...

GnusmasTHX wrote...

Planet scanning is only ONE aspect of what used to be Mako-exploration, that is, resource gathering. Of course scanning isn't as enjoyable, if you compare it to shooting things up, actually DOING QUESTS, rather than just finding them.

No it wasn't. Resources in ME1 was just for a collection sidequest if you could be bothered. They didn't add to anything and meant nothing (aside from maybe an ME1 character import).
Whereas in ME2 you have to scan planets for the upgrades.

In terms of what you're actually doing, Planet Scanning = Driving Around looking for Mineral deposits.

Planet scanning is MUCH faster, if you know what you're doing. That said I'd rather have my upgrades dependent on Planet Scanning than finding mineral deposits on a Mako, wherein I'd have to drive to every individual deposit (Across unbelievably ridiculous terrain) AND if I'm not thorough with every planet, have to backtrack and re-check the planets for those deposits not marked on my map, significantly longer in driving time than it would be to scan a planet.

Modifié par GnusmasTHX, 26 février 2010 - 11:50 .

[BiancoAngelo7]

We're getting a bit sidetracked here though...



Panet scanning is a minigame that was taken too far by forcing us to redo all of the scanning EVERY playthrough because NONE of our upgrades carry over. THAT was the mistake.



As far as replacing the mako...it didnt. The Hammerhead replaces the mako.



What Im hoping they dont do is just release missions (however awesome they may be) when they could potentially make it an awesome experience expanding on what they got right by anyones standards with the mako in ME1 :



Atmosphere



The locations were AMAZING and all that was needed to engage the player was a small quest with a few geth, or fighting a thresher maw.



The formula was a bit flawed on execution, but the content was STUPENDOUS.



This is what Im saying. Forget the scanning. It was a cool minigame that was well made, but implemented horribly wrong by forcing us to do it every NGplus we did.



We gotta focus on the planets my friends, more planets equals more smileys on my happy panda face.

[LostHH]

Hurrr



There is other stuff to do on them planets you know. I wasn't at all suggesting we should drive around for minerals, hell I didn't even bother with them that much in ME1.

Was more interested in the other collectibles, insignias etc. The hidden things, even easter eggs.

I like to explore in my games, if I didn't I'd stick with pure action games.

[GnusmasTHX]

@BiancoAngelo7

I agree, but the criticisms of planet scanning are usually that they replaced the Mako, which they didn't, like you said. They just replaced driving around, sometimes aimlessly, and finding mineral deposits. And in that regard, planet scanning is a much more convenient method of doing so.

People need to understand that NG+ isn't what it should be, and that scanning isn't a replacement for the Mako (and that type of gameplay; ie. landing on a planet doing  a quest aside from gathering minerals)... And that it isn't so much a reflection of the flaws of planet scanning, which is by far, a much less tedious method than having to repeat ME1-mineral-deposit-hacking EVERY SINGLE PLAYTHROUGH.

LostHH wrote...

Hurrr 

There is other stuff to do on them planets you know. I wasn't at all suggesting we should drive around for minerals, hell I didn't even bother with them that much in ME1.
Was more interested in the other collectibles, insignias etc. The hidden things, even easter eggs.
I like to explore in my games, if I didn't I'd stick with pure action games. 

The direct equivalent of planet scanning in ME1 was searching for minerals on the Mako, STRICTLY. And that people SHOULDN'T compare scanning to the rest of the stuff you could do on the Mako, like quests and shooting.

From a resource gathering standpoint, which is basically ALL scanning is, it is much FASTER and less tedious than driving in the Mako looking for minerals.


I've been saying that the entire time.

Modifié par GnusmasTHX, 26 février 2010 - 12:02 .