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NICKjnp

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I hate him because he's another human and you humans are all racist! I like him for his squad disruptor ammo on insanity.

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Zulu_DFA

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cronshaw8 wrote...

Some people hate Zaeed because... They're scared


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Hate is a strong word. I'd use indifferent.

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Alneverus

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I wouldn't say I hate the character, but I don't really care for him.



But my reason is more along the lines that he wasn't really developed and just felt like nothing more than a spare squadmate to be tacked on to the game.



Now if they'd had it to where you could actually converse with him I probably would have liked him more. He had potential, but it just never came through.



I will say, however, I did like the character way more than Jack.

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So, who else hates Zaeed?

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Aisynia wrote...

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I hate him because he's old, ugly, and his armor was stolen from Isaac.


What you call ugly, I call ruggedly sexy.

Sexy indeed

I don't hate Zaeed, i think most ppl don't like him because you can't talk to him like a normal character. but who knows, maybe bioware will make a dlc where you can, idk.

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I actually think Zaeed is hot. It's nothing to do with his face. It's the rugged voice, the no-nonsense attitude, the competence and, well, a nicely drawn ass. And out of the whole ship, if my Shep had to choose someone to sleep with purely for the sake of doing so, it would be Zaeed.

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RPGmom28 wrote...

I actually think Zaeed is hot. It's nothing to do with his face. It's the rugged voice, the no-nonsense attitude, the competence and, well, a nicely drawn ass. And out of the whole ship, if my Shep had to choose someone to sleep with purely for the sake of doing so, it would be Zaeed.


I think you girls should create a separate "Zaeed for LI in ME3" thread.

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Zulu_DFA wrote...

RPGmom28 wrote...

I actually think Zaeed is hot. It's nothing to do with his face. It's the rugged voice, the no-nonsense attitude, the competence and, well, a nicely drawn ass. And out of the whole ship, if my Shep had to choose someone to sleep with purely for the sake of doing so, it would be Zaeed.


I think you girls should create a separate "Zaeed for LI in ME3" thread.


I would, but sadly it won't happen. He's so damned sexy too.

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Apophis2412 wrote...

If people either want to kill or have sex with an NPC, than that is a sign that the NPC was well devoloped.


Except I wanted Zaeed dead because he wasn't developed.

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Jzadek72 wrote...

Apophis2412 wrote...

If people either want to kill or have sex with an NPC, than that is a sign that the NPC was well devoloped.


Except I wanted Zaeed dead because he wasn't developed.


Except you're wrong, because he IS well developed. Just not in such a way you would expect. Zaeed isn't gonna hold your hand and pout about his daddy issues.

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Not a bad guy, interesting motives.

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Well, hate is a strong word. I do not hate him, but dislike him. Not for the lack of conversation wheel (his stories are pretty amusing anyway), but for his actions on Zorya. The guy who is willing to sacrifice innocents to get his revenge is...simply not worthy of respect for me. Not to mention that those workers were in danger in the first place because of his own actions. And that he lied about his true objective for a mission.

Not that he cares, lol.

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I dislike Zaeed as a person, but love him as a character. :-)

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I don't like him because he wanted to let a bunch of innocents die to get cheap revenge. It's no problem for me, I can always kill his ass in the last mission.

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Nhani wrote...

Merchant2006 wrote...
It's because all your damn colonials do not show loyalty to the sovereignty that is the British Empire! Damn you and your hatred for cockney accents! *shakes fist out window while sipping tea and eating scones*

No but really, I liked Zaeed, I always see him as the "Boba Fett" of Mass Effect :)

I actually never cared much for Boba Fett, never quite got onto the train how he was suppose to be so super awesome or anything so Zaeed had me mostly just raise my eyebrows and shrug. His mission made him seem a little too much a loose cannon for me to trust with anything more delicate than "Shoot Absolutely Everything."

Liked his voice, though. Great accent. Pity it wasn't attached to a character I had more interest in.

Yeah, Boba Fett never commanded much respect. He never scores any kills and dies a pathetic death. Absolutely no match for a blind man.

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I don't see the point in hating such competent help... especially competent help that is usually quite expensive, but that YOU didn't have to pay a dime for. My Paragon soldier realized the deaths of those workers was horrible, but in the larger picture, NOT having to worry about the merc behind me leaving or shooting me in the back while I tried to save the WHOLE FRIGGIN UNIVERSE AGAIN seemed a bigger goal. Needs of the many, and all. Is it Nihilist? Yes. Is it amoral? Possibly. Is it realistic to have to make a hard choice that no matter which way you go, you're going to ****** somebody off? Absolutely, and I give BW kudos for placing that choice directly in the path of everyone who wants to daydream the galaxy can end up a giant field of roses where nobody needs to die ever as long as shepard is on scene, and nobody can possibly dislike him. That being said, I do like the chraacter and his abilities in combat, especially the inferno grenade, but I too was kinda peeved that there is NO proper dialogue with this character. He gets his own codex entry and his own mission but no conversation options? I'm sure shepard just goes down to that room to listen... Zaeed's been on some rough missions, sure, but Shepard LIVES an epic heroic tales... at least add in a wheel where they can compare war stories.



I also appreciate that they added in a character capable of taking care of himself with or without you, and I think that puts a lot of players off. Many players enjoy coddling and ensuring the safety and growth of their crew, and to have someone aboard who absolutely doesn't need it seems off... and breeds hate.



Dunno, but there was my 2 cred's worth. I like the guy but wish they did more with him. I also do not see the Boba Fett connection, but he does fit somewhere in between Canderous Ordo and HK-47 in terms of motives and attitude.

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I like the way he talks about past missions. His perona was obviously added later so the convo system don't work. It's the sole reason people can't get attached to him I think. It could have been better, but I like his character nonetheless.

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Renegade Shep kills a lot of innocents too.

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I'd like to have been able to invite Zaeed to the Serrice Ice Brandy party. And see how it'd played out.

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Shvabic wrote...

Renegade Shep kills a lot of innocents too.


Well, those who play renegades usually don't have any problems with Zaeed

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trigger2kill1 wrote...
Joker sums it up pretty well, "Zaeed is like you but takes checks as long as its not my money...".


Trig, didn't Joker tell you not to go spreading his opinion around? lol

Zaeed is awesome. I so hated him my first playthrough when I picked him up late in the game when he became available, his quest def demonizes him. But pick him up early and he is so useful in the early game when you can start with him, and has great in-game dialogue on Omega, and cool war stories. He grows on you, like a fungus.

Modifié par DaddyFoxDerek, 26 février 2010 - 05:59 .


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If you take the Paragon path in his mission, and then use the blue charm option at the end, you are basically saying "You wanted revenge, but you put it before your team, and all those people, and that action in and of itself COST you your revenge. Good job."

Zaeed HUMBLY CONCEDES. He basically admits he was completely wrong, and accepts that he screwed up.

THAT is character development. More than most other characters EVER get.

I appreciate and respect a man who can completely screw up and then be humble about it when you force him to see that he was wrong.

Modifié par Aisynia, 26 février 2010 - 06:06 .


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DaddyFoxDerek wrote...

trigger2kill1 wrote...
Joker sums it up pretty well, "Zaeed is like you but takes checks as long as its not my money...".


Trig, didn't Joker tell you not to go spreading his opinion around? lol


It was a joke.

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Aisynia wrote...

If you take the Paragon path in his mission, and then use the blue charm option at the end, you are basically saying "You wanted revenge, but you put it before your team, and all those people, and that action in and of itself COST you your revenge. Good job."

Zaeed HUMBLY CONCEDES. He basically admits he was completely wrong, and accepts that he screwed up.

THAT is character development. More than most other characters EVER get.

I appreciate and respect a man who can completely screw up and then be humble about it when you force him to see that he was wrong.


Well said.  Also, I find it oddly amusing that I know several people who will yammer on about "war stories" without anyone else getting in a word edgewise.  Zaeed does it well.

Plus, he comes with AR and SR, Disruptor Ammo and Concussive Shot.  Great combination.  Throw in his Loyalty power which has great AoE CC and stagger effects (will AoE stagger enemies with shields or barriers) and he's priceless.  Upgraded to Squad Disruptor and you have a bunch of shieldless enemies with overheated weapons that dance around while on fire or just simply get knocked back and out of commission.