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[scr280]

on my first playthrough i lost jacob and the whole crew execpt chackwas because i dint know that your crew could die if i took to long and it was rather dissapointing to see that jacob was the conly one to get an empty coffin as the crew where what kept the normandy running behind the scenes. Anyone else think it would have been a better if you ended up with about 20 coffins in the cargo for the crew rather than just squadmates? (also anyone else wonder why the normandy is carring custom cerburus coffins?)

[babylonfreak]

scr280 wrote...
 (also anyone else wonder why the normandy is carring custom cerburus coffins?)

It's a suicide mission, and Cerberus thinks of EVERYTHING

[Brijenieve]

if you lost your crew, did they get liquified? or did they die on the way back to the ship after having been rescued? If they were liquified, it wouldn't make sense to have coffins for them - ceremonial coffins (i.e. we don't have a body but still want to bury something in honor) would not be typically kept aboard a ship, only presented around the time of the actual service. the normany's carrying cerberus coffins isn't that weird - it's helpful to have something to put bodies in if you're going to be fighting, and since the normandy belongs to cerberus, it makes sense that the coffins would be cerberus coffins...

[Heimdall]

And where were those coffins before the mission anyway? I didn't see any



Shepard: EDI?

EDI: Yes, Shepard?

Shepard: Why are there coffins in the cargo bay?!

EDI: The Illusive man likes to think ahead, Shepard.

[scr280]

Brijenieve wrote...

if you lost your crew, did they get liquified? or did they die on the way back to the ship after having been rescued? If they were liquified, it wouldn't make sense to have coffins for them - ceremonial coffins (i.e. we don't have a body but still want to bury something in honor) would not be typically kept aboard a ship, only presented around the time of the actual service. 

why wouldnt you give them a coffin if they are liquefied? even squadmates who get get devored by the swarms get a coffin in the scene and i realy dout that you have the bodys of your squad though as carrying the bodys of any people who die during the mission back to the ship would make no sense

Modifié par scr280, 26 février 2010 - 04:41 .

[Jimbe2693]

My question is; how the hell did the bodies of the fallen manage to get back to the normandy

Modifié par Jimbe2693, 26 février 2010 - 04:42 .

[Srau]

If you take your time Chakwas shouts at you saying you let the crew die not coming fast to save them, so i guess they were all liquified but the doc, hence the no coffin for them.

Modifié par Srau, 26 février 2010 - 04:43 .

[kraidy1117]

scr280 wrote...

Brijenieve wrote...

if you lost your crew, did they get liquified? or did they die on the way back to the ship after having been rescued? If they were liquified, it wouldn't make sense to have coffins for them - ceremonial coffins (i.e. we don't have a body but still want to bury something in honor) would not be typically kept aboard a ship, only presented around the time of the actual service. 

why wouldnt you give them a coffin if they are liquefied? even squadmates who get get devored by the swarms get a coffin in the scene and i realy dout that you have the bodys of your squad though as carring
the bodys of any people who die during the mission back to the ship
would make no sense

Because they are expandable. Did you even listen to the conversations. While your squad is not. Most likely Jacob died by trying to close the door, got taken from the swarms or shot when coming out of the door. He sacerficed his life for the mission. Thats why your dead squadmate gets a coffin.

[kraidy1117]

Jimbe2693 wrote...

My question is; how the hell did the bodies of the fallen manage to get back to the normandy

How do you know there filled?

[Habelo]

haha lol

[Jalem001]

None of the other bodies of your crew are retrieved. The coffins are empty. How are you going to drag bodies when you're already sprinting around, barely one step ahead of the collectors as is.



I guess the idea is that you have a connection to your team that you don't have with the crew of the Normandy (Most of them at least).

[scr280]

Jalem001 wrote...

I guess the idea is that you have a connection to your team that you don't have with the crew of the Normandy (Most of them at least).

yet squad member can hate you and still get a coffin such as losing the loyalty of jack/miranda or tali/legion etc in there arguments if you dont use charm or intimadate

[Brijenieve]

scr280 wrote...

Brijenieve wrote...

if you lost your crew, did they get liquified? or did they die on the way back to the ship after having been rescued? If they were liquified, it wouldn't make sense to have coffins for them - ceremonial coffins (i.e. we don't have a body but still want to bury something in honor) would not be typically kept aboard a ship, only presented around the time of the actual service. 

why wouldnt you give them a coffin if they are liquefied? even squadmates who get get devored by the swarms get a coffin in the scene and i realy dout that you have the bodys of your squad though as carrying the bodys of any people who die during the mission back to the ship would make no sense

actually it's kind of a big deal to retrieve bodies from a battlefield. it doesn't always happen immediately, but people really try to make it happen.

what DOESN'T make sense is if you have fallen crew in the final mission... and you blew the cerberus base up... when did you go back to get their bodies? or you just assume that those left "holding the line" were responsible for doing that?

You wouldn't give liquified crewmembers a coffin ON the normandy because you wouldn't have anything to put in it. I highly doubt that anyone would spend the time to or even be ABLE to extract liquid crew members to put in coffins to carry back on the ship.

Like i said before, ceremonial "we have no body" coffins are usually bought/acquried/etc later, closer to the funeral. The Cerberus coffins are probably standard issue transport-a-body-back coffins; why would you lay out empty ones? Sure you lost people, but you don't need empty coffins taking up the space in your cargo hold - each respective family would deal with their lost one's funeral arrangements (including ceremonial coffin) as they please.

[Jalem001]

scr280 wrote...

Jalem001 wrote...

I guess the idea is that you have a connection to your team that you don't have with the crew of the Normandy (Most of them at least).

yet squad member can hate you and still get a coffin such as losing the loyalty of jack/miranda or tali/legion etc in there arguments if you dont use charm or intimadate

So?  They still went with you, fought beside you and, ultimately, died for you.

[kraidy1117]

Brijenieve wrote...

scr280 wrote...

Brijenieve wrote...

if you lost your crew, did they get liquified? or did they die on the way back to the ship after having been rescued? If they were liquified, it wouldn't make sense to have coffins for them - ceremonial coffins (i.e. we don't have a body but still want to bury something in honor) would not be typically kept aboard a ship, only presented around the time of the actual service. 

why wouldnt you give them a coffin if they are liquefied? even squadmates who get get devored by the swarms get a coffin in the scene and i realy dout that you have the bodys of your squad though as carrying the bodys of any people who die during the mission back to the ship would make no sense

actually it's kind of a big deal to retrieve bodies from a battlefield. it doesn't always happen immediately, but people really try to make it happen.

what DOESN'T make sense is if you have fallen crew in the final mission... and you blew the cerberus base up... when did you go back to get their bodies? or you just assume that those left "holding the line" were responsible for doing that?

You wouldn't give liquified crewmembers a coffin ON the normandy because you wouldn't have anything to put in it. I highly doubt that anyone would spend the time to or even be ABLE to extract liquid crew members to put in coffins to carry back on the ship.

Like i said before, ceremonial "we have no body" coffins are usually bought/acquried/etc later, closer to the funeral. The Cerberus coffins are probably standard issue transport-a-body-back coffins; why would you lay out empty ones? Sure you lost people, but you don't need empty coffins taking up the space in your cargo hold - each respective family would deal with their lost one's funeral arrangements (including ceremonial coffin) as they please.

Yes because we could retrive the body of the squadmates who got taken away from the swarms....

[scr280]

like i said you can lose squadmates to the swarms and have them dragged of to god knows where and then blow up the base and they get a coffin in the scene, you lay out those empty ones as a sign of respect and the chances are all the coffins are empty if you destroy the base as nobody in there right minds would carry a dead body back through a hostile base that is about to blow up and let a body slow them down

[Jalem001]

Brijenieve wrote...

scr280 wrote...

Brijenieve wrote...

if you lost your crew, did they get liquified? or did they die on the way back to the ship after having been rescued? If they were liquified, it wouldn't make sense to have coffins for them - ceremonial coffins (i.e. we don't have a body but still want to bury something in honor) would not be typically kept aboard a ship, only presented around the time of the actual service. 

why wouldnt you give them a coffin if they are liquefied? even squadmates who get get devored by the swarms get a coffin in the scene and i realy dout that you have the bodys of your squad though as carrying the bodys of any people who die during the mission back to the ship would make no sense

actually it's kind of a big deal to retrieve bodies from a battlefield. it doesn't always happen immediately, but people really try to make it happen.

what DOESN'T make sense is if you have fallen crew in the final mission... and you blew the cerberus base up... when did you go back to get their bodies? or you just assume that those left "holding the line" were responsible for doing that?

You wouldn't give liquified crewmembers a coffin ON the normandy because you wouldn't have anything to put in it. I highly doubt that anyone would spend the time to or even be ABLE to extract liquid crew members to put in coffins to carry back on the ship.

Like i said before, ceremonial "we have no body" coffins are usually bought/acquried/etc later, closer to the funeral. The Cerberus coffins are probably standard issue transport-a-body-back coffins; why would you lay out empty ones? Sure you lost people, but you don't need empty coffins taking up the space in your cargo hold - each respective family would deal with their lost one's funeral arrangements (including ceremonial coffin) as they please.

Its clearly Shepard's way of honoring the dead/saying goodbye (Or Joker if everyone dies).

[kraidy1117]

scr280 wrote...

like i said you can lose squadmates to the swarms and have them dragged of to god knows where and then blow up the base and they get a coffin in the scene, you lay out those empty ones as a sign of respect and the chances are all the coffins are empty if you destroy the base as nobody in there right minds would carry a dead body back through a hostile base that is about to blow up and let a body slow them down

Also Shepard dies by falling down a huge chasim. There is no way his body could be retrived.....

[scr280]

Jalem001 wrote...

scr280 wrote...

Jalem001 wrote...

I guess the idea is that you have a connection to your team that you don't have with the crew of the Normandy (Most of them at least).

yet squad member can hate you and still get a coffin such as losing the loyalty of jack/miranda or tali/legion etc in there arguments if you dont use charm or intimadate

So?  They still went with you, fought beside you and, ultimately, died for you.

your crew also sacrifised there lives as you see them protecting joker when the ship is borded and allow him to get to edi

[Brijenieve]

kraidy1117 wrote...

Yes because we could retrive the body of the squadmates who got taken away from the swarms....

I didn't lose anyone to the swarms, so I guess I wouldn't know.
Maybe the coffins are full of smuggled Reaper tech.
Or drugs.

[scr280]

Brijenieve wrote...

kraidy1117 wrote...

Yes because we could retrive the body of the squadmates who got taken away from the swarms....

I didn't lose anyone to the swarms, so I guess I wouldn't know.
Maybe the coffins are full of smuggled Reaper tech.
Or drugs.

lol maybe

[kraidy1117]

Brijenieve wrote...

kraidy1117 wrote...

Yes because we could retrive the body of the squadmates who got taken away from the swarms....

I didn't lose anyone to the swarms, so I guess I wouldn't know.
Maybe the coffins are full of smuggled Reaper tech.
Or drugs.

They are empty and it's more of a symbol of resepct. Lets say Garrus died, most likely he would have a funeral on Pallaivan (spelling) then have his funneral on a ship......

[Jalem001]

scr280 wrote...

Jalem001 wrote...

scr280 wrote...

Jalem001 wrote...

I guess the idea is that you have a connection to your team that you don't have with the crew of the Normandy (Most of them at least).

yet squad member can hate you and still get a coffin such as losing the loyalty of jack/miranda or tali/legion etc in there arguments if you dont use charm or intimadate

So?  They still went with you, fought beside you and, ultimately, died for you.

your crew also sacrifised there lives as you see them protecting joker when the ship is borded and allow him to get to edi

And yet they're still not connected to Shepard on the same level as your team.  The exceptions to that would be Joker and Chockwas (sp?), with Kelly being on the line (I would say not, at best she's a fling).

The player should feel like its his crew, but there's a huge difference between them and, say, Grunt or Tali.

[kraidy1117]

Jalem001 wrote...

scr280 wrote...

Jalem001 wrote...

scr280 wrote...

Jalem001 wrote...

I guess the idea is that you have a connection to your team that you don't have with the crew of the Normandy (Most of them at least).

yet squad member can hate you and still get a coffin such as losing the loyalty of jack/miranda or tali/legion etc in there arguments if you dont use charm or intimadate

So?  They still went with you, fought beside you and, ultimately, died for you.

your crew also sacrifised there lives as you see them protecting joker when the ship is borded and allow him to get to edi

And yet they're still not connected to Shepard on the same level as your team.  The exceptions to that would be Joker and Chockwas (sp?), with Kelly being on the line (I would say not, at best she's a fling).

The player should feel like its his crew, but there's a huge difference between them and, say, Grunt or Tali.

Expect Joker of course. I think Shepard and Joker are very close since tey have been through hell and back. Both also have a lover.