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[Carol L S]

I have gone through the game twice and done Bracilian forest, then Cirlce Tower, Then Redcliff, then Orzamar.  Is there an advantage to getting the treaties in a different order??

[Karlojey]

I personally do not think so. I do Circle Tower (to get Wynne early), Orzammar (to get Oghren early though this place is tough! Lot's of ogres), the forest then Redcliff last.

[Indistinct_Void]

It depends on what you want to get first. I always do the Tower first to get (or kill) Wynne and all the stat boosts from the Fade. If you want to get a particular specialization early, you'd want to do that area early... but this is currently a non-issue after the first playthrough since unlocked specializations carry over. If you want another character in your party, after the Tower I'd recommend going to Orzammar to pick up Oghren.

[ejoslin]

The order I do them in depends on the origin I'm playing. City elf goes to Denerim first so usually does the sacred ashes. Human noble goes to Redcliff first. Mage does the circle tower last because she left on really bad terms. Dwarf also puts off going to Orzammar. Dalish of course goes and looks for her people first. I don't think there are any advantages, though the circle tower does have the stat bonuses which are nice to pick up.

[Vuokseniska]

circle tower first just to get those stat bonueses early always handy. after that, basically up to you

[AlanC9]

I kind of like doing Redcliffe first -- especially if you finish the quest without looking for help elsewhere, as it were.

[Helios969]

I do Mage Tower, Urn, Redcliff village, then Redcliff Castle. Which allows me to skip over to the Mage Tower for help in removing the demon from Connor without anyone sacrificing themselves. The rest doens't really matter as far as I can tell.

[krylo]

I print out a copy of the map of denerim, place it on a dartboard, blindfold myself and throw four numbered darts.

I then see which quest each was closest to, and do the quest for 1 first, 2 second, etc.

In other words--it makes absolutely no difference. It is all up to personal preference. Doing the circle first is cool for the stat bonuses, but on the other hand the fade can be a real **** at low levels depending on your class and build.

It's up to you.

Modifié par krylo, 26 février 2010 - 06:08 .

[Tyr-El]

I think my first game was Redcliffe, Circle, Urn, Orzammar, Forest. My most recent was Circle, Urn, Redcliffe, then Orzammar, then Forest. I tend to leave the Forest until last so I don't get raped by Revenants doing the Juggernaut armor.

[CybAnt1]

The Prima Game Guide recommends Circle --> Redcliffe --> Orzammar --> Brecilian Forest.



First time through, that's how I did it. However, it means you get Oghren really late. The other annoying fact was I was a mage and two of my specializations were in Brecillian forest (arcane warrior, shapeshifter -- since I couldn't get bloody Morrigan to teach me it) (and I didn't want to take spirit healer and skipped the moral choice to take blood mage) ... it meant I had an unspendable specialization point, and 2 unspent points, until I could finally spend them at lvl 16.



It's possible to go to Orzammar, do the preliminary stuff (i.e. choose a side), start heading toward the Deep Roads, pick up Oghren on your way in, and ... never go into the Deep Roads and use him for other stuff and finish DR later. I did that 2nd playthrough. BTW, he will not speak to you in camp until you finish the Paragon/Branka stuff.



Two things push you to do Circle of Magi first: #1, the only way to get Wynne (alas the "pick her up and leave" trick I did with Oghren wasn't available because once you start Circle, you HAVE to finish it once you start it, the templars won't let you back out the front door, complete with your Fade sidetrip.) #2, you'll need it for the only Redcliffe resolution that doesn't result in anybody dying, and an Orzammar sidequest (the dwarf girl wannabe).



It's not a bad idea to do Orzammar second, once you finish it, you can actually talk to Oghren in camp and start his personal quest, plus it lets you get Shale's, where you can get his/her best upgrade crystals. Although personally the bottom line is AFAIK the only way to get flawless crystals for Shale is to wait till you're a level where you can buy them from the whacked gem merchant.



After that, you can do Brecilian or Redcliffe in any order. Just bear in mind if it's your first playthrough and you're not going to cheat, you need to do Redcliffe to get Champion specialization, and you can only get Arcane Warrior and Shapeshifter (since I never could get Morrigan to teach it) in the Forest. So a warrior who wants Champion spec should probably do Redcliffe first, a mage BF first.

[krylo]

Prima guide is kinda full of ****.

If you want to do the game EASY, you'd do Brec Forest, Circle, Orz, Redcliffe, Urn.

Brec Forest is first due to the infinite elfroot store. At the VERY least you should go there and get things opened up, even if you don't do the whole quest.

Being able to create infinity plus one poultices is extremely helpful for new players.

There's really no need to go to Brec forest last if you want an easy game.

Modifié par krylo, 26 février 2010 - 06:18 .

[yullyuk]

krylo wrote...

Being able to create infinity plus one poultices is extremely helpful for new players.

that skill is very useful no matter what anyway, and i prefer the order of recliffe, circle, urn, orzomar, forest

[CybAnt1]

A lot of it depends on what companions and specializations you want.



If it's playthrough 2 and all your specializations are unlocked, that no longer affects the order. Do it however you feel like.



If you don't particularly want Wynne or Oghren; do those areas last, then it doesn't matter.



You do have to finish one world quest line to get Zevran, so as they say "you gotta do sumtin" if you want him in your party.



The consensus is that Zevran gives pretty good advice during your quests, so the shame of that is you're going to miss his advice -- somewhere. Plus if you're determined to romance him, you're going to have to start late.



I agree with you -- go to the Dalish camp at BF first, even if you don't start the dungeon/quest there and save it for last, the merchant has a large stock of vital supplies.

[guytza]

for storyline (imo).

Redcliffe (Alistair suggests it, Loghain has already proven to be a thorn in your side that must be dealt with, and the Arl is apparantly very ill meaning time is of the essence.)

Redcliffe castle (You are looking for the Arl at this point, but the connor incident results in a suggestion to go to the...)

Circle Tower (you came here to kill two birds with one stone, 1: enforce the treaty. 2: get help from the circle with the connor situation. )

Redcliffe castle ( return with the results from the circle excursion, now you need to search for Brother Genetivi in Denerim)

Brecillian Forest (You run into them on the way to Denerim, being that they wander its hard to plan for it right? Besides, you need their forces.)

Denerim (finally, now wheres that geneitivi..)

Haven (for the ashes)

Redcliffe (to cure the Arl, who suggests that you go finish collecting the armies while they call the landsmeet....Oh right, Dwarves.

Orzammar



Anyway, thats the path I see if you go by the information available.

[Carol L S]

Thanks for all the replies! Since I plan to use Wynne this time through (didn't bother last two times), I think i'll do Circle first. Then..who knows!

[nYshak]

Flawless Gems are not the best gems ingame. There are "brilliant" ones too.

[Gilsa]

I like to save Redcliffe for last because of the shocked reactions that Teagan and Isolde give you when they thank you for saving Connor and start to moan about needing ashes for Eamon when you simply tell them you already have the ashes. Teagan is flabbergasted. =p



Plus it cuts down on travel when Eamon wakes up and you can just be all, "Already got everyone ready. Let's goooooo to Denerim!"

[Special_Agent_Goodwrench]

I like to go in this order:



Redcliffe - Circle - Back to Redcliffe - Ashes - Orzammar - Brecilian Forest



I usually do it this way since by the time I get to Orzammar, there are many high-leveled goodies to collect and sell.

[sylvanaerie]

You can do the Urn quest BEFORE you resolve the problems with Connor at Redcliffe? How did I miss this? Is the option to speak to Genitivi there without speaking to Isolde and Teagan?

[ejoslin]

sylvanaerie wrote...

You can do the Urn quest BEFORE you resolve the problems with Connor at Redcliffe? How did I miss this? Is the option to speak to Genitivi there without speaking to Isolde and Teagan?

Absolutely.  If you go to Denerim first you can get the information you need.

[EnchantedEyes1]

sylvanaerie wrote...

You can do the Urn quest BEFORE you resolve the problems with Connor at Redcliffe? How did I miss this? Is the option to speak to Genitivi there without speaking to Isolde and Teagan?

Yes, IIRC you get Genitivi's name in Lothering and can go straight to Denerim. I really like going there before Redcliff as well, the surprise on Teagan's face is priceless

[Erucolindo]

I always go to Recliff first because it's Al's recommendation and because of the illness. That's where I went on my very first playthrough, then when i got to Connor I had to go to the Circle. The first time i didn't like this, or it was annoying because I don't like being "forced" or not getting some time to think, but that's a personal flaw on my part. Then I think I did the Urn quest after saving Connor (sp) and then Orzimmar and finally BF. Which, at this point, makes it almost a cake walk.



On my current playthrough I threw in some DLC and am doing Orz before the Urn/Denerim so I get more time with Oghren...time I didn't get the first time. This playthrough has been all around more productive.

[The_Abyss]

Practicality wise



Do the DLCs first after lothering if you want shale or the items (since you can do the sell trick to upgrade them) asap.

If you need a healer, do circle tower first

If you need a melee, do orz.

If you want to save all the villagers at redcliff, do it last.

If you want to kill elves, wait till you get alistar's dispelling thingy before doing the forest (or your own, if mage).]

Denerim is always good to go for breaks or side questing.

[sami jo]

I try to switch up the order so that I can bring different companions to each of the areas. The fade and the gauntlet are such great places to get info on your companions, that I have run all of the companions through each of them at least once. It can be really interesting to hear what different companions have to say in the other areas as well.

[Gilsa]

@sylvanaerie -- I think looting his journal from the chest at his house in Denerim is what actually starts the quest. I don't know that speaking to the templar in Lothering makes a difference, but I've always spoken to him anyway.