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[Alraiis]

BattleVisor wrote...

Joanna Dark > Fem Shep

Cate Archer > Joanna Dark

[stormrain]

Cascadus wrote...

Jennifer Hale: Great, though better or worse than below depending on opinion
Mark Meer: Great, though better or worse than above depending on opinion.
/thread

This.

I play a ManShep so I prefer Mark Meer. There is nothing wrong with Hale's voice acting, I'm just not used to it so it sounds off to me. I'm sure that if I made a FemShep and stuck with her for awhile, Meer's voice would start sounding weird instead.

[Memset]

All Dead wrote...

T-Kay wrote...

BellaStrega wrote...

All Dead wrote...

T-Kay wrote...
Especially in ME2 the female Shepard is stuck with ugly aliens and a black dude. I'm no racist, but that doesn't work for me.

Of course you're not.

I know,right? "I'm no racist, but I'm about to say something racist anyway!"

you're right every man and woman on the planet wants to bed a black man. And if not that, any alien will suffice.

You're hung up on race. You don't see a human male, you see a BLACK man. Just because you don't burn crosses doesn't mean you're not a racist. And anyone who won't date someone because of their race is pretty much the living definition of a racist.

I couldn't disagree more. Everyone has preferences about who they want to date/sleep with. People decide such things based on mental AND physical traits. Personal preference for who he wants as a mate is not racism. If he was trying to decide for others, you'd have an argument.

[Memset]

All Dead wrote...

You're missing the part where one is excluding another simply because of their race. When you see a race instead of a person = racism.

What about when you see a height instead of a person? Many people don't want a short mate. Is that heightism?

[Toxik King]

If you choose a FemShep, you should play as Mess Seargent Gardner in all the missions and you can visit Shepard in the kitchen.

[Memset]

All Dead wrote...

What about when you see a height instead of a person? Many people don't
want a short mate. Is that heightism?

Yup, it is. See how silly it is? Whether racism is justified is up to you. But call a spade a spade. I'm a heightist--I won't deny it.

So you don't see a line of distinction between preferring a tall mate and wanting the rights of short people to be stifled or revoked?

[jklinders]

I thought Jennifer Hale did great as Bastila, but as Shepard I really feel she is only OK. There is just some thing about her vocal inflection that just falls flat on the majority of her lines. I only noticed it a bit in ME1. I tried to do a femshep playthrough in ME2 and stopped because I could not get behind her voice.

Now i heard Meer's voice first in ME1 and maybe that is why I am not hearing what everyone else is saying about him being robotic. I can hear the tone he is trying to get across, where it was forced coming from Hale. In ME2 jennifer Hale sounds a lot like I would in that first five minutes after I wake up and I have not had my coffee yet. Groggy and grumpy.

[tmp7704]

luca_centurio wrote...

So you don't see a line of distinction between preferring a tall mate and wanting the rights of short people to be stifled or revoked?

You might be mixing up the concepts here somewhat. Racism, heightism and other -isms can simply mean discrimination or prejudice towards a person based on certain traits (typically ones the person has no way to change)  It doesn't have to mean "wanting the rights of X people to be revoked", it can be as simple as seeing such people as someone "unworthy" of your personal attention.

There is also a line between wanting a tall mate and discarding potential mate based on nothing but their height, no matter how otherwise interesting, valuable and compatible with your own tastes a person they might be. When people talk of racism, heightism etc it's generally when the individual crosses this very line.

[Memset]

All Dead wrote...

There is a distinction in the manifestations of discrimination but they are not mutually exclusive.

Never said they were mutually exclusive. A person who wanted the rights of short people revoked would probably not want a short mate. But someone who prefers a tall mate wouldn't necessarily want short people to lose their rights.

[Big Yam]

Hale's VO is more emotional, but sometimes it sounds misplaced.  She also does a better job at delivering her lines in a way that hook together into a continuous dialogue.

Meer's VO is more "bland" delivering the paragon lines, but he sounds like he's having fun delivering renegade lines.  I didn't find his delivery to be inappropriate at any point in the game.

I can play and enjoy both manshep and femshep, but would choose "bland" over misplaced inflection.

[JamieCOTC]

Captain Uccisore wrote...

Cascadus wrote...

Jennifer Hale: Great, though better or worse than below depending on opinion
Mark Meer: Great, though better or worse than above depending on opinion.
/thread

This.

I play a ManShep so I prefer Mark Meer. There is nothing wrong with Hale's voice acting, I'm just not used to it so it sounds off to me. I'm sure that if I made a FemShep and stuck with her for awhile, Meer's voice would start sounding weird instead.

I play femShep for ... exact same reson.  Why this arguement doesn't end this debate is beyond me. 

[Memset]

That's fair. I guess we all have "isms" built in to some degree. I consider it more shallow than racist to have such personal preferences though, but I can see what you're saying.

[KnotEngaged]

Hale is over-dramatic and Meer doesn't emote enough.

Take your pick, do who want a melodramatic woman or a monotone man?

[alekvie1337]

Umm All Dead. I don't get why you are calling that guy racist.

If there were 2 identical girls, COMPLETELY identical exept that one was white and the other was black. I would chose the white one. Why? Because I am more attracted to girls that are white. Does that make me racist?

"Oh my what a racist. He chose someone he was more attracted to."

[alekvie1337]

All Dead wrote...

The answer is yes, you are a racist. It's not rocket science, people.

Ok... and why would anyone care if that's racism?

[alekvie1337]

Good for you, you know how to define racism.

Just sounds like you're black and overreacting about a abysmall statement that could be defined as racism.

[Llandaryn]

alekvie1337 wrote...

Umm All Dead. I don't get why you are calling that guy racist.
If there were 2 identical girls, COMPLETELY identical exept that one was white and the other was black. I would chose the white one. Why? Because I am more attracted to girls that are white. Does that make me racist?
"Oh my what a racist. He chose someone he was more attracted to."

No, it wouldn't make you racist. That's your preference. But if you point black refused to have anything to do with the other girl, simply because of her skin colour, then that would make you racist.