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[Kyero]

here is why Male shep voiec > females

at the end when you beat the Reaper she pretty much says "GET TO THE SHIP!" so rediculously out of place. I think she puts too much effort into her VAing enough for it to sound like trash... or atleast non profesional like she should sound in SHepard's shoes.

their voices are good. its their acting. sometimes Male doesnt sound too convincing and sometimes female sounds out of place. both have their down side.

and OP that "I wonna look at a sexy woman all day" excuse is getting a bit old. if your looking at male shepards ass when you play, theres something wrong with you. not him.


Actually this is why male shep > female shep

Modifié par Kyero, 28 février 2010 - 05:20 .

[Llandaryn]

Mooner911 wrote...

Shadowrun1177 wrote...
I honestly like both voice acting though I don't feel it was as good as the voice acting in ME1. The part I don't like about female Shepard's (Jennifer Hale) voice acting is almost every time she seems to talk to Jacob it almost seems like she's trying to get a sultry tone in her voice even if you have no plan's to romance him.

lol. I kicked his conversational ass first time we talked on the Normandy. Very satisfying renegade lines. Since then it's been strictly business, no personal convo's and has worked like a charm. No skanky dialogue coming from MY Shep! The only prob is he's there to comment on every(?) new team member that boards and can't realize that my Shep doesn't give a damn what he thinks.

Hey, at least he has an opinion. Used to be that my whole team was present during mission briefings. Now all I get is Jacob and, if I'm lucky, Miranda. It's like nobody else even knows I have new team-mates, or new mission parameters.

Crazy.

Kyero wrote...

at
the end when you beat the Reaper she pretty much says
"GET TO THE SHIP!" so rediculously out of place. I think she puts too
much effort into her VAing enough for it to sound like trash... or
atleast non profesional like she should sound in SHepard's shoes.

their
voices are good. its their acting. sometimes Male doesnt sound too
convincing and sometimes female sounds out of place. both have their
down side.

Keep in mind, we're seeing the finished product. When the VAs are doing their lines, some of this stuff won't even have been written yet. They won't be seeing what we're seeing, all they'll be given is some prompting on the situation and how their character might feel about it. If both actors were able to see the finished game, minus VO, and then add the VO in afterwards, it would probably sound much better, and much more in-place, on both sides.

Modifié par Llandaryn, 28 février 2010 - 05:35 .

[mmmu]

Jennifer Hale and Female Shepard ALL THE WAY.

[Kyero]

mmmu wrote...

Jennifer Hale and Female Shepard ALL THE WAY.

yep, and her "GET TO DA CHOPPA!"

[tmp7704]

Kyero wrote...

here is why Male shep voiec > females

at the end when you beat the Reaper she pretty much says "GET TO THE SHIP!" so rediculously out of place. I think she puts too much effort into her VAing enough for it to sound like trash... or atleast non profesional like she should sound in SHepard's shoes.

Eh, if that's the scene i'm thinking of then she is yelling "Head to Normandy" to the support team while they are being shot at and there's explosions going all around. It didn't seem out of place for me (much less ridiculously so) -- if you know the person at the other end of line is in a very noisy place it makes sense to yell important things to them simply so the information doesn't get lost. Don't tell me you haven't seen professional soldiers ever yell over the comms when the person on the receiving end is under fire? (be it in movie or RL)

[OneBadAssMother]

I have to admit this though, during Tali's loyalty quest, at the end.

The delivery of the paragon/renegade speech at the court (without telling the truth), was incredibly inspiring when delivered by Jennifer Hale, it was delivered with passion. Voice actor for MaleShepard didn't deliver the speech with the expected punch one would expect, Jennifer Hale however... damn!

But then again, in ME1...
"Because it's a BIG... STUPID... JELLYFISH!" - Voice actor for MaleShepard did it the best.

Modifié par OneBadAssMother, 09 mars 2010 - 05:42 .

[InvaderErl]

VentraleStar wrote...

This game should have been mad for the female shepard. If they make a movie i hope its a female. The male is so cliche and ordianary you can't deny that.

Dude, that is just as sexist as saying that females can't be soldiers. Seriously.

[Collider]

T-Kay wrote...

I have a hard time getting used to playing the male Shepard. I myself am a man and usually pick female characters. Don't know why. Well I do, if I have to look at someone while playing I'd rather it'd be a sexy woman than some dude.

At any rate to me the voice actress of the female Shepard is awesome no matter your playing style (paragon or renegade). The male Shepard's voice is not as daunting as I'd like it to be, plus it sounds like he's just reading his lines. Playing a renegade male Shepard even makes the game ridiculous. He sounds like a little kid trying to cause a ruckus instead of the bad-as.s. you want him to be. Female Shepard says everything like she means it. Male Shepard doesn't really seem to care.

Anyone else have this experience? 

You prefer the voice actor you first played as. Not a surprise.
Btw, if you're one of the people who say they don't want to want play as male so they don't have to see a male ass, it's another problem entirely if you can't keep your eyes off of a guy's rear end.

[InvaderErl]

Well said.



The usual I don't want to play as a guy comments are just as bad as the female one's.

[CrookedAsylum]

InvaderErl wrote...

VentraleStar wrote...

This game should have been mad for the female shepard. If they make a movie i hope its a female. The male is so cliche and ordianary you can't deny that.

Dude, that is just as sexist as saying that females can't be soldiers. Seriously.

It's not sexist, it's a simple fact; Male war hero is done so. Terribly. Often.  It would be nice to have a female war hero for a change.

[InvaderErl]

No it is sexist.



Saying that somehow playing as a male invalidates the worth of that character is offensive.

[Tooneyman]

I like the fact female shepard kind of feels like a woman. She feels a like military woman, but a woman none the less. Male shepards doesn't have a few emotions in his voice. Just its not all the time.

[CrookedAsylum]

They're not saying it invalidates Shepard, they're saying that it makes Shepard overdone, which is true. The definition of cliche is, simply put, 'overdone'. And the archetype of tough, male soldier with a tragic past and a dangerous, 'world rests on your shoulders', unfaltering will and a hero complex has been done so often.



Changing up the gender would be a nice break from the mold that the heroine primarily only serves as the love interest to the main man. That no matter how badass she is, she will inevitably turn to Soldier Man for help. Having guy turning to Soldier Woman for help would be a refreshing change of pace.

[InvaderErl]

CrookedAsylum wrote...

They're not saying it invalidates Shepard, they're saying that it makes Shepard overdone, which is true. The definition of cliche is, simply put, 'overdone'. And the archetype of tough, male soldier with a tragic past and a dangerous, 'world rests on your shoulders', unfaltering will and a hero complex has been done so often.

Changing up the gender would be a nice break from the mold that the heroine primarily only serves as the love interest to the main man. That no matter how badass she is, she will inevitably turn to Soldier Man for help. Having guy turning to Soldier Woman for help would be a refreshing change of pace.

The strength of the character is what makes a character ordinary or overdone. In this regard FemShep and MaleShep are completely the same save one has a penis and one doesn't. Anything else is I daresay it people projecting something that isn't there.

And if you think female soldier badasses are new, you need to go back and watch Aliens. They've been doing it for over 20 years now.

Modifié par InvaderErl, 09 mars 2010 - 06:22 .

[CrookedAsylum]

InvaderErl wrote...

CrookedAsylum wrote...

They're not saying it invalidates Shepard, they're saying that it makes Shepard overdone, which is true. The definition of cliche is, simply put, 'overdone'. And the archetype of tough, male soldier with a tragic past and a dangerous, 'world rests on your shoulders', unfaltering will and a hero complex has been done so often.

Changing up the gender would be a nice break from the mold that the heroine primarily only serves as the love interest to the main man. That no matter how badass she is, she will inevitably turn to Soldier Man for help. Having guy turning to Soldier Woman for help would be a refreshing change of pace.

The strength of the character is what makes a character ordinary or overdone. In this regard FemShep and MaleShep are completely the same save one has a penis and one doesn't. Anything else is I daresay it people projecting something that isn't there.

And if you think female military badasses are new, you need to go back and watch Aliens. They've been doing it for over 20 years now.

But due to societal conditioning, man is often seen as strong and woman as weak. Likewise, man is masculine and woman is feminine. Traditionally, that is. This is prominent even in today's society. Many people, including myself, are simply tired of the archetype. And weren't you stating sexism before? It can't be sexism if it isn't there.

I never said female military badasses were new, just that they were under used. Female badasses in general are under used, or over sexualized to appeal to the male audience.

I'm not saying any of this is a bad thing, dude. Just that it's tiring.

Modifié par CrookedAsylum, 09 mars 2010 - 06:24 .

[InvaderErl]

And I would argue that within the genre of sci-fi the traditional weak female cliche just doesn't hold up. Especially within the last decade.

But to call the male character overdone or cliche does come off as insulting. If someone just said oh its refreshing to get the chance to play as a female military bad ass I'd have no issue with that.

Modifié par InvaderErl, 09 mars 2010 - 06:28 .

[CC-Tron]

I don't like Meer as a paragon but he does a good job. His renegade and neutral dialogue options are much better as a whole. Hale isn't any better at this. She seems better at paragon and neutral than renegade. Her renegade is good enough but can be hard for me to take seriously at times.

[Miss Tricky]

Im agreeing with the sexist fact here,

Im a girl and i play more xbox than any of you men in here, i even work in a xbox lounge,

If you are naive enough to think that girls dont play you are highly mistaken somehow i dont think female characters were specifically created for you to stare at their ass.........and the only thing it effects is who you can hit on

[CrookedAsylum]

InvaderErl wrote...

And I would argue that within the genre of sci-fi the traditional weak female cliche just doesn't hold up. Especially within the last decade.

Well, I agree with this. Unless you want the female characters to die off ridiculously quickly.
...
On the reverse, why is it that it is generally the weak characters who survive horror movies/games? Hmm...

But to call the male character overdone or cliche does come off as insulting. If someone just said oh its refreshing to get the chance to play as a female military bad ass I'd have no isse with that.

Then I'm sorry for insulting you and for possibly coming off as harsh, but not for stating my opinion.

[InvaderErl]

CrookedAsylum wrote...

...
On the reverse, why is it that it is generally the weak characters who survive horror movies/games? Hmm...

David vs Goliath aspect.

Would it be as tense, let's say if the Jock overcame Jason Vorhees through sheer muscle and won the day?

No.

CrookedAsylum wrote...
Then I'm sorry for insulting you and for possibly coming off as harsh, but not for stating my opinion.

I'm not looking to "beat" you or for you to apologize, but I am just stating my opinion in that that sort of thinking - a male soldier is overdone and boring and a female soldier is fresh and exciting! by nature of gender is flawed as some of the LOL WOMAN CAN'T BE SOLDIER!

[CrookedAsylum]

Miss Tricky wrote...

Im agreeing with the sexist fact here,
Im a girl and i play more xbox than any of you men in here, i even work in a xbox lounge,
If you are naive enough to think that girls dont play you are highly mistaken somehow i dont think female characters were specifically created for you to stare at their ass.........and the only thing it effects is who you can hit on

Ad hominems. Please refrain.
It is impossible to know if you play more than someone else.

And I don't think anyone said that girls don't play video games, or that female Shepard was created specifically as a sex object.