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i played as a human noble and did morrigans ritual, but why did fergus have to get found RIGHT AT THE END, he could have been some optional quest and affected the ending in some shape or form, but it just seems so... stupid that they would tie that knot up when they could have used it for dlc, perhaps they still might who knows

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Yeah, I would have like something more than holy crap, you're alive during the post coronation. Or maybe it could have been something like Alistair saying he had a surprise for me, and lo and behold here walks in my bro. But just to kind of stumble across him (I wonder if some managed to miss him all together,) was weak. I think a a knock at the door right before the final battle, post Morrigan ritual would have worked.

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Helios969 wrote...

Yeah, I would have like something more than holy crap, you're alive during the post coronation. Or maybe it could have been something like Alistair saying he had a surprise for me, and lo and behold here walks in my bro. But just to kind of stumble across him (I wonder if some managed to miss him all together,) was weak. I think a a knock at the door right before the final battle, post Morrigan ritual would have worked.

Or during it.

It seems like the kind of thing he'd interrupt just to by funny.

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Well it only works if you're the one doing the ritual. I played a female Cousland, so I think Alistair might have been pissed. Actually, torturing Alistair more than I did might be fun. I made him have sex with Morrigan and then marry Anora, so what the heck.

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Speaking of tortuing NPCs, I plan on letting Loghain live on my current male play through purely because I hear Morrigan's reaction to pawning her off on him instead of doing it yourself is pretty amusing.

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Someone posted an idea of Fergus entering the Landsmeet and shouting "Highever stands with the Wardens!" That would have been so awesome.

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Monica21 wrote...

Someone posted an idea of Fergus entering the Landsmeet and shouting "Highever stands with the Wardens!" That would have been so awesome.


A+

Someone send that to Bioware and demand a DLC quest to rescue Fergus earlier with this outcome.

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Monica21 wrote...

Someone posted an idea of Fergus entering the Landsmeet and shouting "Highever stands with the Wardens!" That would have been so awesome.


there is a flaw to that, loghain was still alive and branded the couslands traitors to the throne, if you remember howe saying, plus he took over highever when he killed the family

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Seems like there is always a character from your Origin story that reappears at your Celebration/epilogue.



When I finished as Dwarf Commoner, there was my sister Rica at the celebration, who other than a brief hello in Orzammar, I never saw after my Origin.










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But HOWE was dead, and another remaining Cousland would have caused quite a stir, regardless.

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krylo wrote...

Monica21 wrote...

Someone posted an idea of Fergus entering the Landsmeet and shouting "Highever stands with the Wardens!" That would have been so awesome.


A+

Someone send that to Bioware and demand a DLC quest to rescue Fergus earlier with this outcome.


Yes, absolutely.  Damn, why didn't they think of that.

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I think it's bad how they did not integrate Origin NPCs well enough... Fergus being the worse and Jowan -- sadly enough -- being the best integrated. I like Fergus and to have him pop up at the ceremony at the end just like that wasn't outstanding.



"Oh, Fergus! I nearly forgot about you, bro! With me saving the land from the Blight and killing the man who betrayed our family... oh, oh! You were what? In a coma...? Sure... by the way... I'm sorry about your wife and son..."



What a cop-out... :|

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yullyuk wrote...

Monica21 wrote...

Someone posted an idea of Fergus entering the Landsmeet and shouting "Highever stands with the Wardens!" That would have been so awesome.


there is a flaw to that, loghain was still alive and branded the couslands traitors to the throne, if you remember howe saying, plus he took over highever when he killed the family

As someone else said, Howe is already dead. Not to mention at that point in the Landsmeet most of the noles know what happened to your family and are sympathetic, and are against Loghain anyway. His branding of you as a traitor is pretty meaningless.

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Monica21 wrote...

Someone posted an idea of Fergus entering the Landsmeet and shouting "Highever stands with the Wardens!" That would have been so awesome.


I'd approve the idea :)

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even so, loghain would still say it doesnt count but then again i dont think his vioce being heard makes a difference

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Oh yeah, and you can get that look on your face like in the Origin when Mother Cousland comes out of her room fully armored.

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 I saw that and went WTF! you got knocked on the head, wussie!

Try watching our mother die, drink the blood of drakspawn, Getting shot full of arrows on top a tower, then to be saved by a grany who turns into a dragon! Then get stuck with her daughter whom, even though she is great in bed, does nothing but **** about everything you do! Then I have to fend off a whole bunch of Undead, because of some demon child. O and speaking of demons, have you ever been to the FADE! Talk about a mental Mind F***, no wonder people are scared of mages, not to mention dealing with drug addict templars.

Then there were the Elves, who created the Werewolfs, that I had to kill because they only followed their nature and started munching on the Elves. Thats as bad as the Dwarves, those fricking little runts are so stuck in stone that I had go in to the deep roads, fight a crap load of Darkspawn, little mini dinosaurs, and spiders, do you know how much I HATE SPIDERS! Not to mention  fight a psycho dwarf who turned a bunch of golems on us, have you ever been hit by a golem, it hurts like HE**!! all so I could pick a King for them! Oh ya do you how fricking cold it gets in the Mountians! As if the cold wasn't bad enough we had to deal not only with a psycho cult, but we had to fight a High Dragon, have you ever smelled High Dragon Breath! Not to mentioned I had some really old gaurdian who put me through a bunch of test just to get some Ashes to cure some old Arl because his wife didn't want to see her little baby go to the circle.

I should kick you arse right back into that fricking comma!

Thats the option I wanted right there.......

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yullyuk wrote...

Monica21 wrote...

Someone posted an idea of Fergus entering the Landsmeet and shouting "Highever stands with the Wardens!" That would have been so awesome.


there is a flaw to that, loghain was still alive and branded the couslands traitors to the throne, if you remember howe saying, plus he took over highever when he killed the family


All the more reason for Fergus to come in their and support the Wardens (and overthrow Loghain).  Keep in mind at the Landsmeet you stand there, with Alistair, as two wardens in which Loghain had sentenced to death.

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Xavier Eledhwen wrote...

 I saw that and went WTF! you got knocked on the head, wussie!

Try watching our mother die, drink the blood of drakspawn, Getting shot full of arrows on top a tower, then to be saved by a grany who turns into a dragon! Then get stuck with her daughter whom, even though she is great in bed, does nothing but **** about everything you do! Then I have to fend off a whole bunch of Undead, because of some demon child. O and speaking of demons, have you ever been to the FADE! Talk about a mental Mind F***, no wonder people are scared of mages, not to mention dealing with drug addict templars.

Then there were the Elves, who created the Werewolfs, that I had to kill because they only followed their nature and started munching on the Elves. Thats as bad as the Dwarves, those fricking little runts are so stuck in stone that I had go in to the deep roads, fight a crap load of Darkspawn, little mini dinosaurs, and spiders, do you know how much I HATE SPIDERS! Not to mention  fight a psycho dwarf who turned a bunch of golems on us, have you ever been hit by a golem, it hurts like HE**!! all so I could pick a King for them! Oh ya do you how fricking cold it gets in the Mountians! As if the cold wasn't bad enough we had to deal not only with a psycho cult, but we had to fight a High Dragon, have you ever smelled High Dragon Breath! Not to mentioned I had some really old gaurdian who put me through a bunch of test just to get some Ashes to cure some old Arl because his wife didn't want to see her little baby go to the circle.

I should kick you arse right back into that fricking comma!

Thats the option I wanted right there.......



I do like the way you put that.....ROFL

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CybAnt1 wrote...

Seems like there is always a character from your Origin story that reappears at your Celebration/epilogue.

When I finished as Dwarf Commoner, there was my sister Rica at the celebration, who other than a brief hello in Orzammar, I never saw after my Origin.





huh? Rica should have been in Bhelens old bedroom with your mom and you get to talk to both of them (and rica has several conversations depending on how far into the quest line you are)

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Xavier Eledhwen wrote...

 I saw that and went WTF! you got knocked on the head, wussie!

Try watching our mother die, drink the blood of drakspawn, Getting shot full of arrows on top a tower, then to be saved by a grany who turns into a dragon! Then get stuck with her daughter whom, even though she is great in bed, does nothing but **** about everything you do! Then I have to fend off a whole bunch of Undead, because of some demon child. O and speaking of demons, have you ever been to the FADE! Talk about a mental Mind F***, no wonder people are scared of mages, not to mention dealing with drug addict templars.

Then there were the Elves, who created the Werewolfs, that I had to kill because they only followed their nature and started munching on the Elves. Thats as bad as the Dwarves, those fricking little runts are so stuck in stone that I had go in to the deep roads, fight a crap load of Darkspawn, little mini dinosaurs, and spiders, do you know how much I HATE SPIDERS! Not to mention  fight a psycho dwarf who turned a bunch of golems on us, have you ever been hit by a golem, it hurts like HE**!! all so I could pick a King for them! Oh ya do you how fricking cold it gets in the Mountians! As if the cold wasn't bad enough we had to deal not only with a psycho cult, but we had to fight a High Dragon, have you ever smelled High Dragon Breath! Not to mentioned I had some really old gaurdian who put me through a bunch of test just to get some Ashes to cure some old Arl because his wife didn't want to see her little baby go to the circle.

I should kick you arse right back into that fricking comma!

Thats the option I wanted right there.......


you sir! are now my hero :P the way thats put is so funny, but so true

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Xavier Eledhwen wrote...

 I saw that and went WTF! you got knocked on the head, wussie!

Try watching our mother die, drink the blood of drakspawn, Getting shot full of arrows on top a tower, then to be saved by a grany who turns into a dragon! Then get stuck with her daughter whom, even though she is great in bed, does nothing but **** about everything you do! Then I have to fend off a whole bunch of Undead, because of some demon child. O and speaking of demons, have you ever been to the FADE! Talk about a mental Mind F***, no wonder people are scared of mages, not to mention dealing with drug addict templars.

Then there were the Elves, who created the Werewolfs, that I had to kill because they only followed their nature and started munching on the Elves. Thats as bad as the Dwarves, those fricking little runts are so stuck in stone that I had go in to the deep roads, fight a crap load of Darkspawn, little mini dinosaurs, and spiders, do you know how much I HATE SPIDERS! Not to mention  fight a psycho dwarf who turned a bunch of golems on us, have you ever been hit by a golem, it hurts like HE**!! all so I could pick a King for them! Oh ya do you how fricking cold it gets in the Mountians! As if the cold wasn't bad enough we had to deal not only with a psycho cult, but we had to fight a High Dragon, have you ever smelled High Dragon Breath! Not to mentioned I had some really old gaurdian who put me through a bunch of test just to get some Ashes to cure some old Arl because his wife didn't want to see her little baby go to the circle.

I should kick you arse right back into that fricking comma!

Thats the option I wanted right there.......


ROFLMAO

Is it possible for someone to turn this into a dialogue tweak?

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Xavier Eledhwen wrote...

 I saw that and went WTF! you got knocked on the head, wussie!

Try watching our mother die, drink the blood of drakspawn, Getting shot full of arrows on top a tower, then to be saved by a grany who turns into a dragon! Then get stuck with her daughter whom, even though she is great in bed, does nothing but **** about everything you do! Then I have to fend off a whole bunch of Undead, because of some demon child. O and speaking of demons, have you ever been to the FADE! Talk about a mental Mind F***, no wonder people are scared of mages, not to mention dealing with drug addict templars.

Then there were the Elves, who created the Werewolfs, that I had to kill because they only followed their nature and started munching on the Elves. Thats as bad as the Dwarves, those fricking little runts are so stuck in stone that I had go in to the deep roads, fight a crap load of Darkspawn, little mini dinosaurs, and spiders, do you know how much I HATE SPIDERS! Not to mention  fight a psycho dwarf who turned a bunch of golems on us, have you ever been hit by a golem, it hurts like HE**!! all so I could pick a King for them! Oh ya do you how fricking cold it gets in the Mountians! As if the cold wasn't bad enough we had to deal not only with a psycho cult, but we had to fight a High Dragon, have you ever smelled High Dragon Breath! Not to mentioned I had some really old gaurdian who put me through a bunch of test just to get some Ashes to cure some old Arl because his wife didn't want to see her little baby go to the circle.

I should kick you arse right back into that fricking comma!

Thats the option I wanted right there.......


Luv the rage but let's keep in mind he did lose his wife and kid.

I was disappointed at his last minute appearance cuz the whole playthrough I was tryin to find a way to get to him but everyone just kept tellin me reasons I couldn't.  I would clear all of the Kocari Wilds myself for family but that was not an option.

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ENCHANTMENTSSS wrote...

Xavier Eledhwen wrote...

 I saw that and went WTF! you got knocked on the head, wussie!

Try watching our mother die, drink the blood of drakspawn, Getting shot full of arrows on top a tower, then to be saved by a grany who turns into a dragon! Then get stuck with her daughter whom, even though she is great in bed, does nothing but **** about everything you do! Then I have to fend off a whole bunch of Undead, because of some demon child. O and speaking of demons, have you ever been to the FADE! Talk about a mental Mind F***, no wonder people are scared of mages, not to mention dealing with drug addict templars.

Then there were the Elves, who created the Werewolfs, that I had to kill because they only followed their nature and started munching on the Elves. Thats as bad as the Dwarves, those fricking little runts are so stuck in stone that I had go in to the deep roads, fight a crap load of Darkspawn, little mini dinosaurs, and spiders, do you know how much I HATE SPIDERS! Not to mention  fight a psycho dwarf who turned a bunch of golems on us, have you ever been hit by a golem, it hurts like HE**!! all so I could pick a King for them! Oh ya do you how fricking cold it gets in the Mountians! As if the cold wasn't bad enough we had to deal not only with a psycho cult, but we had to fight a High Dragon, have you ever smelled High Dragon Breath! Not to mentioned I had some really old gaurdian who put me through a bunch of test just to get some Ashes to cure some old Arl because his wife didn't want to see her little baby go to the circle.

I should kick you arse right back into that fricking comma!

Thats the option I wanted right there.......


Luv the rage but let's keep in mind he did lose his wife and kid.

I was disappointed at his last minute appearance cuz the whole playthrough I was tryin to find a way to get to him but everyone just kept tellin me reasons I couldn't.  I would clear all of the Kocari Wilds myself for family but that was not an option.


Ditto this sentiment.

My FIRST priority after leaving the Wilds, was to find my brother.
Family first, and all.
This isn't even considering that finding Fergus would have GREATLY improved my chances of uniting Fereldon, and stopping the blight.

My first play-through I did the ultimate sacrifice, and seeing him at my funeral was perfect.  It was comforting to know my sacrifice did not also mean the extinction of the Cousland family.

Seeing him at the reception, where I married Alister and became Queen, on my second playthrough did NOT have the same emotional impact.

*insert rant here*  throwing in the occasional reference to how many times I've been stabbed over the past few months.... and still managed to save the world.