****ed up a perfect, creative and dedicated studio like BioWare?
We all know how they killed off many studios we all loved and apologize after so many years of pure green harvest of money. I hold some level of respect towards the current CEO, as he wasn't apart of the scandelous acts of EA.
However, do you believe, if EA changed it's game up and suddenly started to interfere with BW's corperate culture and way of managing will be the epic downfall of EA?
Would gamers finally grab their pitchfork and crash EA's empire to the ground when such acts are commited?
This is just a discussion thread, every opinion is valued. And you most certainly know mines, I am one the edge, if they mess up with BW, I am boycotting them as I can only approve Mass effect with EA stamps on. [ I ditched DA:O some time ago. ]
What if EA once more....
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Posté 26 février 2010 - 07:11
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Consumer boycotts are next to impossible to establish and gain a significant number to accomplish their goals.
With an increasing number of fickle and business savvy gamers what a company does to make money does not bother them. Since they are fickle and will bounce to the next fad every month and as long as what a company does makes "business" sense it will be supported.
If EA did things to this franchise that interfere with my enjoyment, I would not continue to buy the product like I stopped buying Madden.
With an increasing number of fickle and business savvy gamers what a company does to make money does not bother them. Since they are fickle and will bounce to the next fad every month and as long as what a company does makes "business" sense it will be supported.
If EA did things to this franchise that interfere with my enjoyment, I would not continue to buy the product like I stopped buying Madden.
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Posté 26 février 2010 - 07:12
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Very simple:
Quality remains/increases and I see that they are producing games that I enjoy, I continue to buy them.
Games suffer in quality, and are no longer of interest to me, I stop buying them.
Quality remains/increases and I see that they are producing games that I enjoy, I continue to buy them.
Games suffer in quality, and are no longer of interest to me, I stop buying them.
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Posté 26 février 2010 - 07:13
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If they attempted to topple BioWare all the current employees would probably be smart, quit and reform a new company under a different name and continue to make solid games.
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Posté 26 février 2010 - 07:17
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I have talked to people who own Madden and the versions before it and it seems only an updated rostor 'justifies' the full price the following year.
Also, Madden 08 is going to be cut off. EA is taking down the online components of Madden 08 ALREADY.
Outrage anyone?
Also, Madden 08 is going to be cut off. EA is taking down the online components of Madden 08 ALREADY.
Outrage anyone?
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Posté 26 février 2010 - 07:18
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I doubt EA will go back their old way, they are even willing to risk their own neck: Mirror's Edge & Death Space.
Right now the stockholder aren't exactly super happy but EA still keeping their acts together.
If you are looking for the 'evil guy' right now, Active-vision.
But if some players say they don't like the business model of DLC etc, micro-transaction is the force of nature of gaming world now...
If a player own a few versions already than propably not, but stand lone-wise it is a legit full priced game, no one forces anyone to get the latest rooster, a new madden come out doesn't make the old one unplayable or it suddenly become a worst game, and why would any company stop making a product while the people keep buying it when the product doesn't do harm? Could the games use more upgrade each year? Yes of course it could, but the choice to purchase the game or not is ultimate made by the player.
Vote with your money.
Right now the stockholder aren't exactly super happy but EA still keeping their acts together.
If you are looking for the 'evil guy' right now, Active-vision.
But if some players say they don't like the business model of DLC etc, micro-transaction is the force of nature of gaming world now...
I have talked to people who own Madden and the versions before it and
it seems only an updated rostor 'justifies' the full price the
following year
If a player own a few versions already than propably not, but stand lone-wise it is a legit full priced game, no one forces anyone to get the latest rooster, a new madden come out doesn't make the old one unplayable or it suddenly become a worst game, and why would any company stop making a product while the people keep buying it when the product doesn't do harm? Could the games use more upgrade each year? Yes of course it could, but the choice to purchase the game or not is ultimate made by the player.
Vote with your money.
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Posté 26 février 2010 - 07:19
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Harbinger of your Destiny wrote...
calm down
I said this was a discussion thread not for people who want to play a consultant of any kind.
I am not alone with this, if you deny what EA done with numerous studios and prefer quanity of quality, read history.
And no, cussing once doesn't make me a raging n00b of any kind. Simply expressing myself properly.
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Posté 26 février 2010 - 07:20
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EA aren't the bad guys anymore. The change in CEO did that.
Activision are the bad guys now. They have the COD and Guitar hero franchises, so they think they can get away with anything
Activision are the bad guys now. They have the COD and Guitar hero franchises, so they think they can get away with anything
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Posté 26 février 2010 - 07:22
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Invalidcode wrote...
I doubt EA will go back their old way, they are even willing to risk their own neck: Mirror's Edge & Death Space.
Right now the stockholder aren't exactly super happy but EA still keeping their acts together.
If you are looking for the 'evil guy' right now, Active-vision.
But if some players say they don't like the business model of DLC etc, micro-transaction is the force of nature of gaming world now...
Haven't bought Activision game for some time, I skipped Modern Warfare 2 without any regret.
But yes, returning to the old way would ruin them, but some signs show that -might- happen. Also I approve the fact Cerberus gives free DLC IF you buy it in the store and use the code. The reason why I am still standing next to ME and BW. Seeing the DLC's being simple 'another armour with unremovable helms' would infuriate me if I bought it.
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Posté 26 février 2010 - 07:24
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EA isn't going to screw up Bioware and Bioware has only gotten better since it's acquisition from EA.
As game budgets increase, developers like Bioware depend on the deep pockets of companies like EA in order to not have their creativity stifled due to low budgets.
Also, EA hasn't pushed Bioware to meet rushed deadlines or been responsible for design decisions which have hurt the game.
EA and Bioware are both good.
The only people who complain about EA today are software pirates who use their hate towards EA to justify their own criminal behaviour.
As game budgets increase, developers like Bioware depend on the deep pockets of companies like EA in order to not have their creativity stifled due to low budgets.
Also, EA hasn't pushed Bioware to meet rushed deadlines or been responsible for design decisions which have hurt the game.
EA and Bioware are both good.
The only people who complain about EA today are software pirates who use their hate towards EA to justify their own criminal behaviour.
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Posté 26 février 2010 - 07:25
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I, for one, welcome our new EA overlords.
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Posté 26 février 2010 - 07:27
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Anyone remember the Squaresoft/EA merger? EA helped bring a lot of great squaresoft games to the US like Xenogears which was formally not going to be released in the USA due to religious controversy.
Squaresoft was much better off during their EA merger than they are today.
Squaresoft was much better off during their EA merger than they are today.
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Posté 26 février 2010 - 07:27
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Exactly BusomJack,
This is the very reason I am standing proud and tall next to BioWare. They get the resources and time they need to crank out epic titles. I can applaud the way of handling DLC [ Cerberus Network. ] and hope EA takes a lesson with the relationship they established with BioWare.
This is the very reason I am standing proud and tall next to BioWare. They get the resources and time they need to crank out epic titles. I can applaud the way of handling DLC [ Cerberus Network. ] and hope EA takes a lesson with the relationship they established with BioWare.
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Posté 26 février 2010 - 07:31
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Yeah, the cerberus network is a great idea. Rather than treat their consumers like criminals with punishing DRM, they reward them by giving consumers an incentive to actually purchase the game.
It's nice knowing that the vermin who pirated Mass Effect 2 will not have access to all the cool DLC extras that I do.
It's nice knowing that the vermin who pirated Mass Effect 2 will not have access to all the cool DLC extras that I do.
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Posté 26 février 2010 - 07:32
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I agree with that completly and it's certainly a huge step in the right direction. Lets hope ME3 will prove even more EA is acting more responsible and concious about the way they handle honest costumers and especially their acquired studios.
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Posté 26 février 2010 - 07:35
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Busomjack wrote...
EA isn't going to screw up Bioware and Bioware has only gotten better since it's acquisition from EA.
As game budgets increase, developers like Bioware depend on the deep pockets of companies like EA in order to not have their creativity stifled due to low budgets.
Also, EA hasn't pushed Bioware to meet rushed deadlines or been responsible for design decisions which have hurt the game.
EA and Bioware are both good.
The only people who complain about EA today are software pirates who use their hate towards EA to justify their own criminal behaviour.
Saying EA isn't going to screw up in the future is being really optimistic and ignorant to the companies history.
You thinking BW has gotten better with EA as the owner is completely subjective.
Throwing cash at someone also throws an amount of responsiblity on the loanee, EA didn't give BW money to do whatever they pleased.
EA has deadlines and requirements of it's subsidiaries, Bioware included. Releasing ME2 in the dead of January with no competition on the horizon for a month was a very EA thing to do. Whereas the more typical release date would have been Nov/Dec09 in time for Christmas.
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Posté 26 février 2010 - 07:39
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EA killed multiplayer battletech ,i will never forgive them for that.
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Posté 26 février 2010 - 07:41
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Any remember the c&c franchise? At first Ea only published mediocre titles like Generels and Zero Hour. Yet after they learned thier lesson they really turned around. Their latest games are almost as good as the old Westwood games.
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Posté 26 février 2010 - 07:41
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Any remember the c&c franchise? At first Ea only published mediocre titles like Generels and Zero Hour. Yet after they learned thier lesson they really turned around. Their latest games are almost as good as the old Westwood games.
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Posté 26 février 2010 - 07:41
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Any remember the c&c franchise? At first Ea only published mediocre titles like Generels and Zero Hour. Yet after they learned thier lesson they really turned around. Their latest games are almost as good as the old Westwood games.
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Posté 26 février 2010 - 07:41
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Any remember the c&c franchise? At first Ea only published mediocre titles like Generels and Zero Hour. Yet after they learned thier lesson they really turned around. Their latest games are almost as good as the old Westwood games.
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Posté 26 février 2010 - 07:41
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Any remember the c&c franchise? At first Ea only published mediocre titles like Generels and Zero Hour. Yet after they learned thier lesson they really turned around. Their latest games are almost as good as the old Westwood games.
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Any remember the c&c franchise? At first Ea only published mediocre titles like Generels and Zero Hour. Yet after they learned thier lesson they really turned around. Their latest games are almost as good as the old Westwood games.
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Posté 26 février 2010 - 07:41
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So far EA did good with BioWare. Dragon Age was good and ME2 was epic. Now both of those games are seeing great DLC support that BioWare just wasn't providing for their prior games and that's a great thing.
